Chautala menace set to end in Haryana!

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If u can accept foriegn money, job, equipment, seeds,bahu-damad, TV and TV chnls (etc. etc. etc. there is a long list)then why not a foreign PM ?
If u can accept italian marlble, italian leather, italian scooters, italian food then why not italian PM?
Anyway, she has lived in India longer than in Italy. Give her a chance and talk abt her after 5 yrs. 50 saal ho gaye made in india try kiya, ab italian try karo. Shayad kaam ban jaye.
She won it fair and square. She was elected by 100% Indians, no italians cast there vote here.

BJP did a good job, but it was just not good enough. Perhaps they should have been given some more time, but ppl are getting frusted and loosing patience. BJP did bring some good change, but they did not just go far enough.

I am sure if congress does not make good use of there time, they too will be kicked out next time. As for chautala, go and vote in the haryana election, if u can. The good thing abt this election was that no one won bcos of the name chautala and this shows name does not count for "real" voters. And by same analogy, Sonia did not win bcos of Gandhi name.
 
For those supporting Congress and critcising BJP/Vajpayee- Are we saying that before 1999 (when congress was ruling most of the times since independence) there was no poverty or a poor man in India and then all of a sudden Vajpayee came to power and in just 5 years created a nation where more than half of the population is below poverty line? Amazing!!!!!!

For the same lot - I hope now (when Congress is going to rule again) we'll have same (pre-BJP) utopia again! Well !!! All the best mates!
 
Well, we have a Congress Gov't now supported by the likes of Lalloo Yadav and all the commies.

Look forward to more Bofors,Hawara,Animal Husbandry type scandals to follow ...
 
Import and PM-ship

Dear Anil,

I guess there is a difference in doing business (importing quality material) and some body at the post of the most powerful position in our country.

Thanks.
 
dear ramandeep...
chautala ke haath dho ke peeche kyun pad raha hai yeh to mein nahin janta......leki jahan tak kaam karne ki baat hai...rural area mein to is sarkar ne kaam karwaya hai...road banwayein hain aur kisaoon ke bhi pooch ki hai....aur gaon mein bhi paise diye hain......lekin yeh time time ki baat hoti hai ki haar--jit to chalti rehti hai...last election mein congree ka patta saaf tha...is baar INLD ka ho gaya....dynastic approach to har jagah hoti hai......kahin bhi dekh le.........ab har ghar mein leader to hone se rahe.....aajke kisi bhi neta ko utha ke dekh lo...ya to dyansty se aaya hai ya phir dynasty jo bada raha hai.....
sonia gandhi ke PM banne ke baare mein to yahi kah sakte hain ki desh ka dhurbhagya hai.....ek political naam ke alawa kuch nahin hai sonia ke pass....aise vayakti ko desh ki bagdor dena desh ke liye bura hi sabit hoga....
 
First of all what do u want ?? a victorious country or feebleminded with frizzled leaders??

some ppl are crazy with low mentality bout foreign origin of sonia...if you want to see ur country really victorious then don't go for ur ego problem and just think bout quality of ppl n doesn't matter who is he/her....as same thing we follow when we go for intercaste marriages.

Look at indian leaders, max leaders are like worse than donkeies....so don't compromise with donkies just due to bit ego problem....Think bout only quality of person...
 
In the last 5 years of NDA, both Naidu and Chautala were part of the NDA Gov't.

Naidu always laid out to the likes of Vajpayee and Advani what he wanted for his people and his state. He might have greased his hands a little along the way, but all-in-all visible development was occuring in Hyderabad and with regards to IT etc.

Chautala - on the other hand ... so far, all we've heard is widening of roads and a few minor things. As long as he was happy drinking and his aulad's eating lots of food, haryana ke jaat baarh mein gaye.
 
"Yeh Chautala or Sonia ka kiya connection hai?"

patha nahi ... par chautala neh BJP ka satyanaas kara diya Haryana mein.
 
Actually the Lok Sabha elections did both
BJP and Chautala a big favour.

Now that they BOTH know that they aren't
going to make it alone, they'll tie up
for the Haryana elections, and that'll keep the
congress out of Haryana.
 
RC Sahab
let's say ur words are correct that "max leaders are donkeys"..Ok..then in principles all cong. leaders are donkeys as well along with any other parties. Kyon?
aur jab hamare country ke donkeys available hain to Italy se she-donkey kyon import karen??
Think about it. Ek aur khaas baat...u mentioned that 'Think bout the quality of the person', Do you see any qualities in Sonia as PM? Jo lady, after so long stay in India, abhi tak Hindi bhee padh/likh sakti hai, she don't really have spirits to integrate with Indians. Yeh to power hai ziske bal par usne yeh bola ki "She is more Indian than Italian..and she forgot Italian"..I can't do any thing but laugh over her comments. Bhala kabhi koi apni mother tougue to bhee bhool jata hai..basically bana rahi hai country walon ko aur sabko maloom bhee hai aur koi kuch nahin kar sakta...

socho..for me if Cong. rules, Manmohan Singh/Pranab Mukherjee/P.Chitambaram will make a good PM than Sonia...the lady doesn't deserve this at all...she is getting the KURSI by virtue of being a BAHU of Gandhi family. Itne dino tak Cong. ka raaj sahen kar liya...ab to iss desh ko kuch aur saalon ke liye unse mukt karo!
 
Hello all,
Well I am late in joining the discussion..

I feel really ashamed to realize we have come to a point where we had to choose an Italian to make our PM. Someone pointed it out right.. if Mulayam sing or Sharad pawar or any one els has any dignity they wont support her as PM.( but they are more interested in power sharing i think)

She was in India for so long before her husbands assasination.. why culdnt she learn Hindi, our culture and our traditions at that time...She never felt the need for it that time. It was only after Rajiv's assasination that she started taking lessons in hindi!!!

She doesnt belong to this place.. she doesnt knwo about how an average Indian feels or what his problems are..She knows of it only through the ppl around her who write her speeches and who tell her what to do.
Has she ever spent a day in a village and seen how hard life is.. she goes there only for election campaign..wear green saree when going to a muslim constituency..hug some ppl ..kiss some kids.. thats the only time she wuld have spent with avg Indian.
Rahul( or shuld i say "Raul" and make it sound like an Italian name now) and Priyanka come out of their social circles only during election campaigning and are flaunted by the congress to emotionally win votes.
Is there anyone here who thinks Rahul or Priyanka can be good leaders and are aware of the Indian problems and what needs to be done ?


As for her sufferings.. yes its a great pain to go through what she has undergone.. but there are so many India mothers and wives who loose their snos and husbands on the borders.. and they dont have the Gandhi legacy to fall back on.. what abt them..Their sacrifice is much bigger.. and those guys did a much better job for our country than what Rajiv Gandhi did.

This point is out of the context ..but I will anyway say it as it hurts a lot. After Godhara next day in papers it was just that a "mob"(no one dared say Muslims burnt) of ppl burnt 50 Hindus and congress dint say a word to condemn it. Next day, after the repercussions.. congress was all chaged against the HINDU MOB.( I dont say what Modi did was right..and lets not discuss it either).

Ok I will stop here.
Looks like this discussion is a bit heated up..No offence intended to anyone.. These are just my personal views..
Regards,
Anuj
 
Close your eyes and open your mind. Right now it doesn’t matter who rules as everyone has long list of negative points.
But these elections shows the power of Indian democracy, against all predictions from 6 months back, people showed there power. To overthrow a govt which was doing ok. This shows how India is moving forward. People want more from there govt. Indian democracy is slowly but surely maturing.
Good times are coming.... just wait
 
Exactly how is Indian democracy maturing ? And exactly how do we know good times are coming ?

Indian governments have been going and coming since the last few decades. I don't quite see how that translates into you concluding anything other than that the people were getting tired of the most recent power holders. Anything other than that would be a stretch.
 
Chautala was first to implement VAT in state..( Baniya & Punjabi to royega hi)
but ek fact hai..Jitne naukri chautala ne JAT logo ko di,itne kisi bhi CM ne aaj taknahi de.. Aur vo bhi begaar paise ki ( Vo alag baat hai.. ko beech main aapna influence use karke paise kha gaya ho )
chayeeh JBT selection ho,ya fir 1500 police walaon ka ya fir HCS ka...

Jitne jobs chautala ne JAT logon ko diye hai,, itne na to Devi Lal , Ajit Singh, Sahib Singh ,Sompal or any other JAT leader till date ne diye..
Yeh ek fact hai.


Haan Moti party ( especially business community) ko chautala bakhsta nahi..Gurgoan se khub paisa ekhttha kiya... per kisi Gareeb JAT ko tang nahi kiya..

Ajay \ Abhay ki vajah se maara ja rha hai yeh to..
State main dekhna aab congress aaygee.. Aur BhajanLal banega CM ( Hooda ko to bhool jao). Fir dekhna kisi ek JAT ko agar chapdassi bhi laga de to, kisi ki transfer ( suitable place per) nahi hone dega..Sub Jat logon ka ragda lagayega..Just wait and watch.
 
Do you understand 'THE PROCESS' of how democracy matures?

You wrote -'Indian governments have been going and coming since the last few decades.'

If you think your statement above is correct than you have lived in some other India.

You Said ' I don't quite see how that translates into you concluding anything other than that the people were getting tired of the most recent power holders.'

Here you are correct to say 'people were getting tired of the most recent power holders.'
Do you understand the depth of the statement. If you want to take a negative apporach then there are 1000's.
But the FACT that people are changing power means a lot to a country.
This is not all, more important is The FACT that today more people understand that they can change the power positions.

Even this is not all-Most importantly Today more people understand that this Government of the people is by the people and for the people.

If you don't understand something- 'JUST ASK'
"He has a right to criticize, who has a heart to help."

Dhamaka Singh Molurd (May 15, 2004 09:44 p.m.):
Exactly how is Indian democracy maturing ? And exactly how do we know good times are coming ?

Indian governments have been going and coming since the last few decades. I don't quite see how that translates into you concluding anything other than that the people were getting tired of the most recent power holders. Anything other than that would be a stretch.
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The fact that a government can come and go is democracy. Think about the countries where a government can't come and go and the people are stuck with a goverment for years.

Yes, the democracy is meturing. This election has probably the fairest one of all the elections in the history of India's indpendence.

The fact, that Krishna Malik couldn't win from Sonepat despite the powerful hands of Ch. Chautala and her own husband.

I don't support any particular party just yet but I do support democracy.

-ajmer

Dhamaka Singh Molurd (May 15, 2004 09:44 p.m.):
Indian governments have been going and coming since the last few decades. I don't quite see how that translates into you concluding anything other than that the people were getting tired of the most recent power holders. Anything other than that would be a stretch.
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Just because newspapers do not write good about chautala, does not mean he is not good for JATS. But for sure he is not good for the business community and they controls most of the media.
Ramandeep you still have not provided any support for your earlier statments except calling him Sharabi and Kababi.
I do not support one leader over other but at the same time do not call them idiot as well, simply because media does not like them.
 
Ranvir ji,
why are u assuming, JATS do not belong to business community ? Why being good to business community is not good for Jats ?
I know majority of Jats are still farmers, but why is farming not a business ? Farming should be run as a business. Moreover, farm sector is over staffed. Its high time Jats move to other professions and make farming an efficient way to earn a living. And the so called leaders are supposed to educate and make available the opportunity to do so. Instead they promise free
food and make jats slave for their own short term benefits. This is why Chautalas and Ajit Singhs are a menace to Jats community and the sooner they get rid of them the better for Jats.
 
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