Contribution of Indian Immigrants to Life abroad

[drrajpalsingh]

In the present age of globalisation, immigrants contribute to the local culture, economy and society a lot. The number of Indian immigrants to various countries is large. They have created a niche in abroad in various fields of their activities like entrepreneurs, technocrats and professionals like engineers, chemists, pharmaceuticals, doctors, researcher-scientists and engaged in other fields of academics etc.

It is unfortunate that despite all their sterling contribution, various foreign governments have been tightening their immigration policies to an extent where foreign students, who want to study in those countries are discouraged. In any case all students, who go abroad for higher studies do not settle there. Therefore, fearing large scale immigrants including therein persons from India, the students should not be denied entry in the institutes of higher learning. It is reportedly envisaged by UK Government to curtail entry of students from abroad including from India.

Instead the contribution of the Indian immigrants must get due recognition all over the globe. Friends come forward with your inputs on the issue detailing contribution of Indians abroad and the need for liberalisation of rules and regulations governing migration and immigration.

Thanks

 

[anilsangwan]

यूके / कनाडा / ऑस्ट्रेलिया / अमरीका की सरकार ने ठेका ले राख्य स के Indians की भलाई करन का...? क्यों करेंगे ये भारत के लोगों के हिसाब तें? इंडिया थोड़ी स, आक कसाब भी बिरयानी खा स कांग्रेस के राज में .....ये देश जो आप ने बताये अपने खुद के हित आर मतलब के हिसाब तें रुल बनावें सें... जो की अच्छी बात स ( आर भारत में कोणी होती )...... जब इन ने जरुरत थी तो gate खुले थे... एब देखा आक बढ़िया माल के गेल कूड़ा भी आवे स तो सख्ती कर दी.... आर आप की जानकारी खातिर बता दयून..... सारे के सारे इंडियन इन देशां में जाके सुपर successful कोणी होते...... गलत काम भी बहुत करें सें....आर इसे लोग बहुत बड़ी तादाद में सें...... इतने इतने सुर्ड़े लोग आ रे सें इन देशां में... आक बूझो मत.....स्टुडेंट भी निरे नकली सर्टिफिकेट ले के बड रे सें यूके में.... एब चना पिसेगा तो घुन भी पिसेगा आक न?..... सब या तो पढ़ के बढ़िया नौकरी कारन आवें सें... या फेर काम के चक्कर में ....या पीसे कमा के उल्टा जान.... मेंने आज ताई एक भी इंडियन नहीं फेट्या स जो न्यू कह आक में तो इस देश का भला करण आया सु.... उ भी अगर यहाँ इतने महंगी पढाई पढ़ के कोए उल्टा इंडिया जागा तो उसका बाबू सर में लठ मारेगा....!!!!!

In the present age of globalisation, immigrants contribute to the local culture, economy and society a lot. The number of Indian immigrants to various countries is large. They have created a niche in abroad in various fields of their activities like entrepreneurs, technocrats and professionals like engineers, chemists, pharmaceuticals, doctors, researcher-scientists and engaged in other fields of academics etc.

It is unfortunate that despite all their sterling contribution, various foreign governments have been tightening their immigration policies to an extent where foreign students, who want to study in those countries are discouraged. In any case all students, who go abroad for higher studies do not settle there. Therefore, fearing large scale immigrants including therein persons from India, the students should not be denied entry in the institutes of higher learning. It is reportedly envisaged by UK Government to curtail entry of students from abroad including from India.

Instead the contribution of the Indian immigrants must get due recognition all over the globe. Friends come forward with your inputs on the issue detailing contribution of Indians abroad and the need for liberalisation of rules and regulations governing migration and immigration.

Thanks

 

[malikdeepak1]

It is reportedly envisaged by UK Government to curtail entry of students from abroad including from India.

Thanks

This was done by UK in response to a deal that was done between India and France for fighter planes (Rafael-Dassault). 95000 crore is by no means a small amount especially for a country whose economy was already heading towards double-dip recession. Khunnas nikal di UK ne apni.

Time to rethink as why people move abroad for better jobs/lifestyle/studies? Why not improve the conditions in India itself so that we dont even think of moving outside?

 

[anilsangwan]

Time to rethink as why people move abroad for better jobs/lifestyle/studies? Why not improve the conditions in India itself so that we dont even think of moving outside?

ना भाई इस बारे में एक बार भी कोए नहीं सोचदा..... वो थोथे मुह आला SM कृष्णा भी उछल के यूके ने memorendum देन चाल पड़े स.... उस ने कोए समझावे आक भाई... हर देश का अपना तरीका स..... जे अगर यूके ने स्टुडेंट बुलाने कम कर दिए तो उनकी मर्जी..... धिन्ग्ताना थोड़ी स...... पर वोट की राजनीति स ..... सिर्फ न्यू दिखावन खातिर आक हम ने चिंता स एर यूके के लठ दे राख्य स...... बाकी बेरा तो इन् ने भी स आक कुछ ना होनी जानी....... आज तक बता दयो आक किस देश ने अपने वीसा नियम बदल दिए इंडिया के दबाव में.... एक छोटा सा नेपाल एर बंगलादेश का बोडर तो कण्ट्रोल ना होता इन् तें, दबाव डालेंगे अमरीका पे.... निरे मुल्ले आतंकवादी नेपाल आर बंगलादेश के रास्ते आ के गोभी खोद ज्यां सें......!!

 

[vicky84]

Migration is always based upon country's business demand. You cannot push any country to accept people. Developed countries do a proper planning and think ahead. Government get report from businesses and then make a decison on how many people they need. Intake of people keep on changing based upon requirements from the businesses.

In the present age of globalisation, immigrants contribute to the local culture, economy and society a lot. The number of Indian immigrants to various countries is large. They have created a niche in abroad in various fields of their activities like entrepreneurs, technocrats and professionals like engineers, chemists, pharmaceuticals, doctors, researcher-scientists and engaged in other fields of academics etc.

It is unfortunate that despite all their sterling contribution, various foreign governments have been tightening their immigration policies to an extent where foreign students, who want to study in those countries are discouraged. In any case all students, who go abroad for higher studies do not settle there. Therefore, fearing large scale immigrants including therein persons from India, the students should not be denied entry in the institutes of higher learning. It is reportedly envisaged by UK Government to curtail entry of students from abroad including from India.

Instead the contribution of the Indian immigrants must get due recognition all over the globe. Friends come forward with your inputs on the issue detailing contribution of Indians abroad and the need for liberalisation of rules and regulations governing migration and immigration.

Thanks

 

[anilsangwan]

Migration is always based upon country's business demand. You cannot push any country to accept people. Developed countries do a proper planning and think ahead. Government get report from businesses and then make a decison on how many people they need. Intake of people keep on changing based upon requirements from the businesses.

दिग्विजय सिंह / राहुल गाँधी / मायावती जिसे इंडियन लीडर्स की चले तो इन देशों के immigration में भी मुस्लिम एर दलित का आरक्षण करवा दें..... सोच के देखो लन्दन की मेट्रो में निरे ढेढ़ भरे हों एर बांस ठा राखी हो कसूती.... ऊप्स.... के इमेजिन करवा दिया....!!!

 

[swaich]

This was done by UK in response to a deal that was done between India and France for fighter planes (Rafael-Dassault). 95000 crore is by no means a small amount especially for a country whose economy was already heading towards double-dip recession. Khunnas nikal di UK ne apni.

Time to rethink as why people move abroad for better jobs/lifestyle/studies? Why not improve the conditions in India itself so that we dont even think of moving outside?

Are you sure about that? I think the new student regulation was directed against all non-EU countries. It affects India more because a bulk of foreign students in UK are from India.

 

[cooljat]

Frank n' forthright, your reply sums it up!

यूके / कनाडा / ऑस्ट्रेलिया / अमरीका की सरकार ने ठेका ले राख्य स के Indians की भलाई करन का...? क्यों करेंगे ये भारत के लोगों के हिसाब तें? इंडिया थोड़ी स, आक कसाब भी बिरयानी खा स कांग्रेस के राज में .....ये देश जो आप ने बताये अपने खुद के हित आर मतलब के हिसाब तें रुल बनावें सें... जो की अच्छी बात स ( आर भारत में कोणी होती )...... जब इन ने जरुरत थी तो gate खुले थे... एब देखा आक बढ़िया माल के गेल कूड़ा भी आवे स तो सख्ती कर दी.... आर आप की जानकारी खातिर बता दयून..... सारे के सारे इंडियन इन देशां में जाके सुपर successful कोणी होते...... गलत काम भी बहुत करें सें....आर इसे लोग बहुत बड़ी तादाद में सें...... इतने इतने सुर्ड़े लोग आ रे सें इन देशां में... आक बूझो मत.....स्टुडेंट भी निरे नकली सर्टिफिकेट ले के बड रे सें यूके में.... एब चना पिसेगा तो घुन भी पिसेगा आक न?..... सब या तो पढ़ के बढ़िया नौकरी कारन आवें सें... या फेर काम के चक्कर में ....या पीसे कमा के उल्टा जान.... मेंने आज ताई एक भी इंडियन नहीं फेट्या स जो न्यू कह आक में तो इस देश का भला करण आया सु.... उ भी अगर यहाँ इतने महंगी पढाई पढ़ के कोए उल्टा इंडिया जागा तो उसका बाबू सर में लठ मारेगा....!!!!!

 

[malikdeepak1]

Are you sure about that? I think the new student regulation was directed against all non-EU countries. It affects India more because a bulk of foreign students in UK are from India.

Yes, I am 100% sure. This regulation came right after the deal was finalized. UK tried to put some pressure on our govt to rethink on their decision and sign the deal with them. unke parliament me ye baat bhi uthi thi ki agar India 95000 crore France ko de sakta hai (in installments) to hum usko har saal 4000 arab kyu dete hai? cancel that amount. They tried various tactics and finally retorted with new visa regulations. Unhone non-EU sirf ek desh ko single out karne se bachne ke liye kiya hai.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Yes, I am 100% sure. This regulation came right after the deal was finalized. UK tried to put some pressure on our govt to rethink on their decision and sign the deal with them. unke parliament me ye baat bhi uthi thi ki agar India 95000 crore France ko de sakta hai (in installments) to hum usko har saal 4000 arab kyu dete hai? cancel that amount. They tried various tactics and finally retorted with new visa regulations. Unhone non-EU sirf ek desh ko single out karne se bachne ke liye kiya hai.

Friend,

This type of arm twisting policy would further lead to distancing of the two nations!

Thanks

 

[anilsangwan]

Friend,

This type of arm twisting policy would further lead to distancing of the two nations!

Thanks

I hope this message was for Govt of UK. I am sure they will act on it.

 

[anilsangwan]

Frank n' forthright, your reply sums it up!

थंक यू जीत !

 

[deshi-jat]

योगदान तो बहोत है भारतीयों का, पर घर मै इज्ज़त तो बाहर इज्ज़त...और ब्रितानिया का हाल तो दशको से ख़राब चल रहा है.. द्वितीय विश्व युद्ध के बाद बस अमरीका का पिछलग्गू हो के आपणी थोड़ी इज्ज़त डाट राखी सै..और उत ना धरया कुछ

In the present age of globalisation, immigrants contribute to the local culture, economy and society a lot. The number of Indian immigrants to various countries is large. They have created a niche in abroad in various fields of their activities like entrepreneurs, technocrats and professionals like engineers, chemists, pharmaceuticals, doctors, researcher-scientists and engaged in other fields of academics etc.

It is unfortunate that despite all their sterling contribution, various foreign governments have been tightening their immigration policies to an extent where foreign students, who want to study in those countries are discouraged. In any case all students, who go abroad for higher studies do not settle there. Therefore, fearing large scale immigrants including therein persons from India, the students should not be denied entry in the institutes of higher learning. It is reportedly envisaged by UK Government to curtail entry of students from abroad including from India.

Instead the contribution of the Indian immigrants must get due recognition all over the globe. Friends come forward with your inputs on the issue detailing contribution of Indians abroad and the need for liberalisation of rules and regulations governing migration and immigration.

Thanks

 

[anilsangwan]

योगदान तो बहोत है भारतीयों का, पर घर मै इज्ज़त तो बाहर इज्ज़त...और ब्रितानिया का हाल तो दशको से ख़राब चल रहा है.. द्वितीय विश्व युद्ध के बाद बस अमरीका का पिछलग्गू हो के आपणी थोड़ी इज्ज़त डाट राखी सै..और उत ना धरया कुछ

Sahi kahi bhai...जेठ पे छोरी जामण आली कहावत सिद्ध करे सें इंडिया के नेता..... खुद ने कुछ करना नहीं... डंडा दे दयो दुसरे देशा के...!!!

 

[sumitjattan]

This may be out of box but when britons put banners like Indians and dogs are not allowed even in India then you yourself think what they can do in their own nation ...... met any Irish and hard core American they dont even like to speak to British people ..... Irish Americans still have a lot of respect for IRA .... but we forget INA and HSRA and if you think i am biased toward britan ..I myself personally got an experience of brown skin treatment at Heathrow airport ............ one sec then how you think they will recognize our contribution .....

योगदान तो बहोत है भारतीयों का, पर घर मै इज्ज़त तो बाहर इज्ज़त...और ब्रितानिया का हाल तो दशको से ख़राब चल रहा है.. द्वितीय विश्व युद्ध के बाद बस अमरीका का पिछलग्गू हो के आपणी थोड़ी इज्ज़त डाट राखी सै..और उत ना धरया कुछ

 

[ravinderjeet]

I hope this message was for Govt of UK. I am sure they will act on it.

भाई अनिल तू ते किते हो हँसान लाग ज्या स लोकां ने , जगां ते देख लिया कर |

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Frank n' forthright, your reply sums it up!

Friend.

It would be good if you could share views in some detail on the topic of thread for the benefit of the readers.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Migration is always based upon country's business demand. You cannot push any country to accept people. Developed countries do a proper planning and think ahead. Government get report from businesses and then make a decison on how many people they need. Intake of people keep on changing based upon requirements from the businesses.

Friend,

You are right on permanent migration category.

But temporary migration and immigration also continues between various countries under cultural exchange programmes that covers mainly higher studies.

It is also learnt that the London Metro has very important contribution in its laying down and functioning of some Indian Company.

What are your views on the role of India born people like Lord Swaraj Paul and Laxmi Pati Mittal in U K Business and politics.

Thanks.

 

[vicky84]

Friend,

You are right on permanent migration category.

But temporary migration and immigration also continues between various countries under cultural exchange programmes that covers mainly higher studies.

It is also learnt that the London Metro has very important contribution in its laying down and functioning of some Indian Company.

What are your views on the role of India born people like Lord Swaraj Paul and Laxmi Pati Mittal in U K Business and politics.

Thanks.

Sir,

For temporary short term visas, different countries have different business model. For example, Australia consider 457 visa which is an employer sponsored visa. This visa allows businesses to find people from overseas when there is no one available in the country to fullfill the skills sets. United States offers H1B visa, to allow people to work on short terms basis. Again as you said, there is some special treatment for different countries in granting visa. For example, United States offers a E-3 visa for Australian citizens to work. It is special treament for Australian citizens because they don't need to compete with rest of world in order to get the similar work visa which is H1B. There is cap on H1B visa which is of around 65,000 work visas. Australians have around 10,500 work visas which is under E-3 Visa scheme. Now question arisis, why there is a special treatment for Australians or may be for Canadians or Britons. That is because, these countries have special partnership. Their governments work together and help each other. United States have a high stake in Australia. Australia is a strategic location for US to counter rising influence of China. Australia allows US to deploy troops in the country. US mining companies have a great stake in Australia. Whereas in contrast, India's relation with US have never been fruitful. Richard Nixon called Indira Gandhi an "old witch". India can never get a special treatment until and unless, India raises its standards. We need to be good on our own first in order to get the special treatment.

 

[anilsangwan]

सौ की सौ साची.... और जहाँ तक मित्तल और स्वराज पॉल की बात है... तो वो बिज्नेस्मन हैं... उन देशो को टैक्स में अरबो रुपये देते हैं, लेकिन इसका मतलब ये नहीं की इन दो लोगों से प्रभावित हो कर यू के वाले सारे indians खातिर गेट खोल दें.... आर फेर बाट देखें की शायद उन लाखों में से कोई एक अगला मित्तल या स्वराज पॉल होगा.... एर बाकी के लाखों लोग भीड़ करे राखेंगे .....
एर हाँ बिज्नेस्मन खातिर अमरीका में स्पेसल वीजा स.... USD 500000 इन्वेस्ट करो USA में .... एर ग्रीन कार्ड ल्यो...

Sir,

For temporary short term visas, different countries have different business model. For example, Australia consider 457 visa which is an employer sponsored visa. This visa allows businesses to find people from overseas when there is no one available in the country to fullfill the skills sets. United States offers H1B visa, to allow people to work on short terms basis. Again as you said, there is some special treatment for different countries in granting visa. For example, United States offers a E-3 visa for Australian citizens to work. It is special treament for Australian citizens because they don't need to compete with rest of world in order to get the similar work visa which is H1B. There is cap on H1B visa which is of around 65,000 work visas. Australians have around 10,500 work visas which is under E-3 Visa scheme. Now question arisis, why there is a special treatment for Australians or may be for Canadians or Britons. That is because, these countries have special partnership. Their governments work together and help each other. United States have a high stake in Australia. Australia is a strategic location for US to counter rising influence of China. Australia allows US to deploy troops in the country. US mining companies have a great stake in Australia. Whereas in contrast, India's relation with US have never been fruitful. Richard Nixon called Indira Gandhi an "old witch". India can never get a special treatment until and unless, India raises its standards. We need to be good on our own first in order to get the special treatment.