trueblueindian
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Did varun deserve to be in the state he is in now??
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arrr apney ka tae kattyi bhi nahi
I never post anything without reading the whole thread and i am not here for any activity level or post count.
Whatever i said is very much clear and the concerned person can get it and understand it so easily.
Bhai aapne aap ne sab aandi samjhe se,,,,,its not your fault
,,,,,,,main bhi haade post count khatir na bethyaa,,,,,,
,,,,,,,main bhi haade post count khatir na bethyaa,,,,,,I never post anything without reading the whole thread and i am not here for any activity level or post count.
Whatever i said is very much clear and the concerned person can get it and understand it so easily.
anilsangwan
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Bhai aapne aap ne sab aandi samjhe se,,,,,its not your fault
Me too..... Hum toh yahaan ek healthy discussion aur apne cummunity mein "thought process" ko badhaaney k liye aate hain bhai....
we are here to initiate a "Spark" in fellow jatlanders so that they can also learn to be leaders ( not politicians) in their respective field. Proper presentation of one's thoughts is important and we try to make fellow jats learn this trait bhai !!!
I think Varun Gandhi is being wasted in India. He is young, brave, macho and according to many people, nationalist (although I am not sure how statements that are based on religion and not nationality and exclude entire communities within the same nation can be construed as nationalistic).
Anyways coming back to my point, he is being wasted here. He wants to cut those hands that threaten Hindus. In India, he'd have to go on a wide goose hunt looking for enemies (or create non-existent ones). Let's give him a sword and send him to Afghanistan or Swat Valley, Peshawar, Balochistan, etc. in Pakistan. There are entire factories there who are producing jihadis to kill Hindus. Varun can just start his chopping exercise indiscriminately there and fulfill his desires to the maximum, while also benefiting Indians (including Hindus).
rakeshsehrawat
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A friend of mine used to read a lot of litrature . Once he told me that someone said
" The One who is below 35yrs and says he is not a Communist is a fool and one who is above 35 and says he is a communist is also a fool.":rock:rock:rock
" The One who is below 35yrs and says he is not a Communist is a fool and one who is above 35 and says he is a communist is also a fool.":rock:rock:rock
I agree with that, though u need to take into account Tamils (LTTE) in Lanka, Basque separatists in Spain, Irish in N. Ireland, naxals in Central India, etc. etc. Still by and large one can say that MOST terrorists are muslims. But, MOST Muslims are NOT terrorists. There is a big difference and I hope you understand it.
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anilsinghd
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I did not follow the thread!
But just for information for all of you , here is a result of a poll on a Jat orkut community!
Topic:
Kya varun gandhi jaise leaders ko politics mein se hata dena chahiye?
1) Yes : 14 votes ( 25 % )
2) No : 25 votes ( 46 %)
3) Nothing should happen : 2 votes ( 3 %)
4) Parties are responsible : 3 votes ( 5 %)
5) We cant vote for him: 2 vot es ( 3 %)
6) We vote him : 8 votes ( 14 % ).
Mind you the audience is all 18-25 mostly ! Young india
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sorry if you find it offtopic!
But just for information for all of you , here is a result of a poll on a Jat orkut community!
Topic:
Kya varun gandhi jaise leaders ko politics mein se hata dena chahiye?
1) Yes : 14 votes ( 25 % )
2) No : 25 votes ( 46 %)
3) Nothing should happen : 2 votes ( 3 %)
4) Parties are responsible : 3 votes ( 5 %)
5) We cant vote for him: 2 vot es ( 3 %)
6) We vote him : 8 votes ( 14 % ).
Mind you the audience is all 18-25 mostly ! Young india
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sorry if you find it offtopic!
Yes Sangwan bhai ,,,,our aim is clear,,,,,as Swami Vivekanand said "I want my country man to have nerves of steel, muscels of iron and mind like thunderbolt"
Aur aslo roop mein ham hi dhaarmik hain aur ham hi secularist hain,,,dharmik hona koyi galat baat nahi hai,,,,
Isi liye hamne Jit Takhar bhai dwaara Hindu ve baaki dharmo ke khilaaf baat ka virodh kiyaa hai:rock
Agar kisi ne ek chhota sa Chutkula bhi Ch***** ke upar likh diyaa hota to abhi tak bawandar ban jaata,,,,lekin sabhi Dharmo ke khilaaf bolne waale ke virodh mein hamne awaaj uthai hai:rock
Jai Shree ram, Allah o akbar,,,Hey God
Aur aslo roop mein ham hi dhaarmik hain aur ham hi secularist hain,,,dharmik hona koyi galat baat nahi hai,,,,
Isi liye hamne Jit Takhar bhai dwaara Hindu ve baaki dharmo ke khilaaf baat ka virodh kiyaa hai:rock
Agar kisi ne ek chhota sa Chutkula bhi Ch***** ke upar likh diyaa hota to abhi tak bawandar ban jaata,,,,lekin sabhi Dharmo ke khilaaf bolne waale ke virodh mein hamne awaaj uthai hai:rock
Jai Shree ram, Allah o akbar,,,Hey God
Well Said Bro, even all the pseudo Hindu bacho group here of JL should also follow the senapati Varun Gandhi on this wide goose hunting !
Aise lip service aur keyboard warrior banane se kaam nahi chalega FIDAYEEN banana padega like the freaky terrorists, ... if u hv guts then u can only get the glory n save ur religion!
Those bloody inhuman terrorists killing innocents in the name of Religion, you do the same go there n fight fire with fire, if u hv GUTS !
Concur with you bro here, even I mentioned same thing in my post earlier! But look like nobody understands this ...
Aise lip service aur keyboard warrior banane se kaam nahi chalega FIDAYEEN banana padega like the freaky terrorists, ... if u hv guts then u can only get the glory n save ur religion!
Those bloody inhuman terrorists killing innocents in the name of Religion, you do the same go there n fight fire with fire, if u hv GUTS !
Concur with you bro here, even I mentioned same thing in my post earlier! But look like nobody understands this ...
every community hates the other community
hindu, muslim, sikh, christians etc etc they all hate each other
this hate process starts from hating ur neighbour, hating ur relatives , hating people from other regions (even if they r from ur own community)....it goes on and it doesnt stop at hating other religions....it just goes on and on
humans r aggressive animals nd need something to hate all the times. we try to hate more by bringing new things into picture.
but i dont think politicians/religious leaders hate anyone. they just play the game and watch all the fools.
they experiment and u react in the way they want u to react. every time u do wat they expect they want to take it to the next level up.
it sounds like fun to me !
and do u care about pollution , recession, population or anything when u r so busy with hating ? NO ! not at all. tats y 3rd world countries will stay like this unless and until they stop hating. We need to get over this hating game and improve ourselves
hindu, muslim, sikh, christians etc etc they all hate each other
this hate process starts from hating ur neighbour, hating ur relatives , hating people from other regions (even if they r from ur own community)....it goes on and it doesnt stop at hating other religions....it just goes on and on
humans r aggressive animals nd need something to hate all the times. we try to hate more by bringing new things into picture.
but i dont think politicians/religious leaders hate anyone. they just play the game and watch all the fools.
they experiment and u react in the way they want u to react. every time u do wat they expect they want to take it to the next level up.
it sounds like fun to me !
and do u care about pollution , recession, population or anything when u r so busy with hating ? NO ! not at all. tats y 3rd world countries will stay like this unless and until they stop hating. We need to get over this hating game and improve ourselves
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Ye bacho group konso se bhai
Bhai aapne apni peechhli post mein Hindu dharm aur baaki ke dharmo ke upar aise shabd paryog karke koyi samajhdaari nahi deekhai hai,,,,,,,kisi samajhdaar insaan ko aise shabd nahi bolne chaahiye,,,,
Ham sab dharmo mein aapsi bhai-chaara chaahte hain,,,,,Varun gandhi kaun hai kyaa hai,,,,is pachde mein mat pado aur aap se haath jod kar nivedan hai ki aisi baat kam se kam apne dharm ke baarei mein to nahi kahni chaahiye,,,,,shobha dusre dharmo ke upar bhi nahi deta
Bhai aapne apni peechhli post mein Hindu dharm aur baaki ke dharmo ke upar aise shabd paryog karke koyi samajhdaari nahi deekhai hai,,,,,,,kisi samajhdaar insaan ko aise shabd nahi bolne chaahiye,,,,
Ham sab dharmo mein aapsi bhai-chaara chaahte hain,,,,,Varun gandhi kaun hai kyaa hai,,,,is pachde mein mat pado aur aap se haath jod kar nivedan hai ki aisi baat kam se kam apne dharm ke baarei mein to nahi kahni chaahiye,,,,,shobha dusre dharmo ke upar bhi nahi deta
Well Said Bro, even all the pseudo Hindu bacho group here of JL should also follow the senapati Varun Gandhi on this wide goose hunting !
Concur with you bro here, even I mentioned same thing in my post earlier! But look like nobody understands this ...
some of us are going to form an opinion about others by reading some posts full of hatred.
The biggest reason of forming such a strong opinion is ' we believe on our people too much' 'we dont think outside the box'
we choose leaders emotionally , we trust them and do what they say. how foolish !
The biggest reason of forming such a strong opinion is ' we believe on our people too much' 'we dont think outside the box'
we choose leaders emotionally , we trust them and do what they say. how foolish !
yudhvirmor
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Slightly modified version:
If you are not socialist at the age of 20, It means you don't have heart..
If you are not captialist at the age of 40, It means you don't have brain..
shailendra
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YES he does deserve it... (and also that idiot Raj Thakeray and for that matter all the other similar bufoons who think they are above the Country when they go spreading the same message of hate and violence!)
anuragdahiya
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Give me a break from this cheap religious gyaan n theory, let Varun go to hell n all of his followers. Instead of thinking something constructive for our country's prosperity you ppl r spreading communal hatred, that's rubbish!
Kya Hindu Muslim Sikh Ishai laga rakha hai, why don't u ppl understand all these are political gimmicks, these bloody politicians n fundamentalists can go down to any extent to fullfill their interests.
Religions were devloped for betterment of ppl, so they can lead a disciplined life and not a single religion tells to spread hatred, mind you. But these bloody fundamentalists interpret it to ppl in a negative way and these dump ppl don't just use their minds !
Not all the terrorists are Muslims mind you but most of them are, cuz as far I observed Muslims r hardcore radical when it comes to their religion so they are far more vulnerable to carried away in the name of Allah n they also spread terrorism as Jehaad (religious war) while other groups are kind of rebels .. Terrorism is like cancer for Muslim community and sooner or later it gonna ruin them totally if they don't introspect n do something to get rid of it.
Anyways, when it comes to India ... we're far more secular and here Muslims n Hindus n other religious ppl stay together with peace but these bloody politicians n fundamentalists n ppl like u don't miss a chance to spoil this harmony. Btw have u ever thought how much Muslims contributed to our India ... for an example our former president APJ Kalam, the most respectable person for me in India, is a Muslim! Can u deny his contributions ... like him there are many in every other field be it govt, research, sports, bollywood, service sector n alll ... but still they are seen with doubt n treated as sec grade citizens. Hatred is filled to the core in ppl's heart ! that's really disappointing !! ...
Comeon, guys be progressive don't live upto these false religions be it Hindu, Muslims n all ... be spiritual not ritual n believe in only one supreme religion n that is HUMANITY !
Get some wisdom guys, to be hell with Hinduism, Islam, Christianity n rest of them !
Rock on
Jit
I am not a regular on JL - but this is an issue so close to my heart that I cannot remain silent. Very well said Jit. We will be the biggest hypocrites if we try to justify Varun's utterings - because not too long back, we were all ecstatic with joy at the achievements of some Indians - one Allah Rakha Rahman - born a Hindu, now a devout Muslim; one Resool Pookutty (a Muslim, who talked about the primeval sound of Om in his acceptance speech) and one Gulzar (A Sikh, Sampooran Singh Kalra, whom may mistake for a Muslim). Do we find these names "darawana" as Varun chose to describe Muslim names?? Shame on him, and shame on us if we justify what he said. And, by the way, Varun's defence - AFAIK - is that it's doctored tapes: that he never actually said all that... his defence, mind you, is not that he said the right thing. So by justifying the atrocious absurdities he mouthed, please let us not fall lower than him.
Interesting and inspirational story about Gulzar and how he came to adopt that "Muslim" name. He was born in what is now Pakistan, and seeing all the bloodshed and violence that partition brought with it, he was determined never to let himself lose his sanity in the hatred fostered by communalism and to give himself a permanent reminder of tolerance, he took on the name Gulzar. This is someone who saw personal loss. If he can keep his sanity, why can't we all?
The word we use for Hinduism is "Dharma" or "duty". It is a much higher sentiment than words such as "Belief" or "Religion", which merely imply a submission, or subservient devotion. Dharma is about conduct, and about RIGHT conduct. It cannot include hatred of the sort Varun spews. Please someone ask him to READ the Gita (well said Priyanka!), rather than pollute that book by putting his hand on it and swearing to act like Neanderthals.
There can be no place for the likes of Varun in Indian politics. Let's make sure every single politician of his ilk gets nothing from the electorate. Punish them with your vote - and hopefully politicians will see the folly of their divisive ways.
P.S. I just couldn't bring myself to use the name Gandhi with this man's - so the use of first name throughout the above should not be mistaken for any expression of affection!
anuragdahiya
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Interesting that you have a precise estimate of how many Hindus would have converted. I am a Hindu. I have never supported, liked, rooted for or otherwise been influenced by RSS throughout my life (and it wasn't for the lack of the Parivaar's trying, let me tell you). On the contrary, I was educated by Catholic nuns, and not one ever tried to convert me. Stop being paranoid - our religion is not so weak that we need some dubious crutches such as RSS to safeguard us. If Congress has no monopoly on secularism, then RSS has no monopoly on Hinduism either - and thank God for that!
navingulia
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Pakistan originated and survived on policy of HATE.
and see where that HATE has taken them.
If, we give in to hate, we will also go where they are.
Let us fight for Hinduism-
1. How many would be willing to remove caste system/jaatiwaad. Maximum number of hindus have converted to christianity/islam because they were treated as low caste/untouchables by hinduism. there have been cases where whole villages of untouchable hindus have converted to islam. whom can we blame for that?
2. How many would like to work towards making Bhagwad Geeta and its teachings popular, spread the philosophy and knowledge of vedas.
3. How many would be willing to donate 10% of their earnings to charity and go and work in poor christians and muslim localities (christians do that, can you)
4. Ruudhiwadita aur andhwishwas ko hataana.
5. This is same hinduism in which people donate 1000kg gold in temple but not a penny for social welfare.
when we fight with ourselves and our own shortcomings we always gain. When we fight with others we always lose (goodwill, friends)
Let us look inwards.
and see where that HATE has taken them.
If, we give in to hate, we will also go where they are.
Let us fight for Hinduism-
1. How many would be willing to remove caste system/jaatiwaad. Maximum number of hindus have converted to christianity/islam because they were treated as low caste/untouchables by hinduism. there have been cases where whole villages of untouchable hindus have converted to islam. whom can we blame for that?
2. How many would like to work towards making Bhagwad Geeta and its teachings popular, spread the philosophy and knowledge of vedas.
3. How many would be willing to donate 10% of their earnings to charity and go and work in poor christians and muslim localities (christians do that, can you)
4. Ruudhiwadita aur andhwishwas ko hataana.
5. This is same hinduism in which people donate 1000kg gold in temple but not a penny for social welfare.
when we fight with ourselves and our own shortcomings we always gain. When we fight with others we always lose (goodwill, friends)
Let us look inwards.
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