Do we Jat really need Reservation ?

[samarkadian]

Sourav Nandal Sir/Uncle ji/ Bhai,

Aap kafi vyathatit maloom padte hain Jats ki Durdarsha par.Aur kafi gyani bhi.Lekin aap ek bhaisahab ke saath typical Jat wala hi vyahar kar rahe hain(atleast here in writing)..Aakhir Jat hi Jat ko kat raha hai..Disappointment is the part of life Bhai/Sir. Kripya! aap apne vichar, soch, tathya aur jaisa bhi aap sochte hain , gyan rakhte hain, KYA ek hi acchi si consolidated post mein likh sakte hain? Vinamra nivden hai taki baki ke sab log bhi kuch jankari hasil kar sake.Aapki badi meharbani hogi.Ek ek line ki post likhne se confusion bada rahta hai hume..aapki apni expertise ek hi post kar dijiye aur ek hi bhasha mein.

Dhanyawad..

 

[snandal1]

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[snandal1]

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[snandal1]

Yeh Jat Site Kisse ke Baap ki Jagir Nahi..Sare jatton ki sanjhi hai...every one is entitled to their opinion, and every one has right to disagree. Disrespecting others in the cowrdice veil of these forums is very very "UNJAAT like"...again let me express my opinion..."WE DONT NEED HAND OUTS FROM ANY ONE"...

Very Right Sidhu.

However Reservation is not a handout but you have to snatch this if you have guts again it is about just providing a level playing field to Jats ,that's all.

 

[anilsinghd]

Some one seems to be obsessed by the few books that he has read !



I am wondering whether Mods see this thing at all.

Is this something we tolerate , one line stupid writings , blank posts , ..... and ,,,,,, what the crap is this ?


If someone is so pissed off , why does not he just shut up and mind his own business.


Stupidity at its very best.


Jats are this , JAts are that , Saari history mein Jats , Rutherford , Bohr , Changej , Allexander!



Is there any other race than Jats ? Or anyone else than Jats should survive on not ?

I hope we are residents of a secular country.!

 

[brahmtewatia]

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it may b noted tht all the blank posts r edited, it seems mr. nandal wanted to say sumthin' but deleted later on for appropriate reasons.

 

[dkumars]

Some one seems to be obsessed by the few books that he has read !



I am wondering whether Mods see this thing at all.

Is this something we tolerate , one line stupid writings , blank posts , ..... and ,,,,,, what the crap is this ?


If someone is so pissed off , why does not he just shut up and mind his own business.


Stupidity at its very best.


Jats are this , JAts are that , Saari history mein Jats , Rutherford , Bohr , Changej , Allexander!



Is there any other race than Jats ? Or anyone else than Jats should survive on not ?

I hope we are residents of a secular country.!

muh ki baat chenn li dost

 

[snandal1]

it may b noted tht all the blank posts r edited, it seems mr. nandal wanted to say sumthin' but deleted later on for appropriate reasons.

budhya sauve thya, at 2.15 pm reddy pphone mmarreye tha ukk mme bhi jjatt ssue andhra kia...

 

[anrtish]

it may b noted tht all the blank posts r edited, it seems mr. nandal wanted to say sumthin' but deleted later on for appropriate reasons.

but I really guess that Jat was worth being ruled in his own land as times and often he was done. n where this very post confirms that jats really are not aware of their own interests, like in sindh, delhi, gurgaon, faridabad, noida, sonepat.. etc. I really dont wonder that similar would have been the situation in lancashire, hampshire, etc..

slowly n gradually my mind is changing that jats raelly deserved a forein ruler....

their memories were wonderfully short to recall what was in store for them after defeat

 

[anrtish]

this very thread here confirms that jats really deserved what they have been subjected to. for the last 5000 years at least. the thread speaks " whether jats need bread n butter to eat, n answeres are in front of u" . where every other community needs bread n butter n fighting for it vigrously, there jat himself is letting it passed by. i was deeply moved that bhagat and that vakeel rahman was jat, but seeing this thread again n again on this site where there is a media war where gujar/meena are there, even rajput/brahman demanding reservation in rajasthan.. here really jat is great..

 

[skadian123]

Very true - Sand slipping out of hands

Antrish,

I can see and understand the agony and anguish in the tone of your reply to this post.

In fact true, Jats have always fought and quarelled among themselves which allowed outsiders to come and flourish amongst us. The same is happening as far as this debate on Jat reservation is concerned. There are other equally proud communities who are reaping the benefits of reservation without making much noise about it (false pride and ego).

We are going over the board in expecting the entire Jat community to proceed on the path to become Einsteins. Let's not set too high a standard for the community to reach that level and that too in such a period of time. It's simply a case where we are being too demanding from our fellow Jat brothers (from small towns and villages) who have not had the best of education, yet have managed to earn their degrees/diplomas with average grades. Even after getting them, they are being denied jobs because 50% of the ones available are straighaway taken up the reserved category, few by the Einsteins of other communities and the rest go to the ones with 'Sifarish'.

Even if we presume that our community would be a community of Einsteins in the future, what is the time frame for the same. Because time waits for none and especially so in today's fiercely competitve world. One still fails to understand who would stop Jats from becoming Einsteins once they get reservation. Why are those opposing reservation putting forward the choice of 'Either/or' instead of 'AND'. Lets strive hard and excel individually and also let the less priviliged community members take the help of reservation where required.

Only hope that those opposing reservation stop living in their pasts (fool's paradise - jhoothi shaan) and live in the today after taking into consideration the realities of today....

 

[anrtish]

it may b noted tht all the blank posts r edited, it seems mr. nandal wanted to say sumthin' but deleted later on for appropriate reasons.

long back in 800 bc these tewatias migrated from iran. during achaenmic disturbances, but i suppose they were all fools to get intermingled with jats, jat is discussing on jat land whether we need bread n butter? r v super human being? r v alien from a seperate galaxy?

 

[prashanthooda]

Hi All
Simply, I'm in the support of the reservation for the community. Bcz when others are availing the huge benefits then why we should forgo it.
Here I'm shocked and surprised to see that this thread has been visited by about 3490 visitors till the date, but only 103 members have casted vote.

 

[vivekgathwala]

Hi All
Simply, I'm in the support of the reservation for the community. Bcz when others are availing the huge benefits then why we should forgo it.
Here I'm shocked and surprised to see that this thread has been visited by about 3490 visitors till the date, but only 103 members have casted vote.

bhai hooda bhaidd(sheep) chal s jitt jo samjhaa de ude hi chal pade s ar 3490 ne ya thread dekhiii ar chal padeeee unne koi matlab hi na se ki kiste fayda s kistee nuksan ....log aaaj ke din nue sochee s ki humne te naukri ..dhandee pa re s humnee dusraaa te ke matlab ..... milega te hum gelyaaa se hi na milya te koi mahra tota bhi na hota par bevkooofa ne nue na bera ki yoo unke fayde khtr konya aaage aaan aali peedhi khtr se jooo aaj ke din naukri khtr dhakeee khandii hande sss...............bhaiyooo mere aap sabhi members te gujarish s ki reservation ne aap sabhi log support karooo ....or practically sochoo ki isse apka kitna fayda s na ki kehn te ki hum te jat sa humne aarakshan ki ke jaroorat s hum ke nichliii jaaaaatan gel apna nam likhangeee (bhai desh main or bhi te se .......jo likhe s ....ar bhai yoo jat ka rukaaa jo s neee padhaiii likhaiii te na s badmashiiii ar or aaag adangyaa te s kitee hum is chej ne booor man rahe hoon .......... agar jat ko utana hai to yeh to sabse pehli sedhi hai ...


bakhiii aaap sabhi budhijivi hooo sab kime bera bhi s ar samj bhi aave s fer bhi maroood karejaooo soooo

or joo bhi reservation ko jatooo ke liye galat batata hai mian use jatoo ke hit main sochnee vala hi nahi mantaa

i vote my self in favour in reservation


jai jat jai hind

 

[prashanthooda]

bhai hooda bhaidd(sheep) chal s jitt jo samjhaa de ude hi chal pade s ar 3490 ne ya thread dekhiii ar chal padeeee unne koi matlab hi na se ki kiste fayda s kistee nuksan ....log aaaj ke din nue sochee s ki humne te naukri ..dhandee pa re s humnee dusraaa te ke matlab ..... milega te hum gelyaaa se hi na milya te koi mahra tota bhi na hota par bevkooofa ne nue na bera ki yoo unke fayde khtr konya aaage aaan aali peedhi khtr se ...............

jai jat jai hind

You are absolutely right Vivek Bhai. I appreciate your views.
And I'm too much surprised to see people are opposing this important issue. Indeed our community deserve it.
Log to is tarah virodh kar rahe hai jaise unki "POCKET" se koi cheez chali jaayegi ya fir kam ho jayegi.
Yadi kisi ki naak jyada lambi hai to vo nahi kare reservation ka use, ye to optional hai ke aap iska use karte ho ya nahi. Aur haan yadi reservation mil jata hai to bahut se ese logo ko fayda hoga jo ki bahut hi seedhe hai aur hoshiyaari nahi jaante. Reservation is for the help of poor, not for the people who are using the net and writing their views in English about the whole community. So please don't try to interfere and determine the future of those people who are needy. Remember they seek your support not your worthless suggestions.

 

[brahmtewatia]

chrzzz

chrzzz for antriksh chaudhary, sunil kadian, prashant hooda & vivek gathwala for supporting JAT RESERVATION.

(the counter increases evry time u visit this thread... hence its showing more visits).

 

[anrtish]

my father sat with charan n adviced a few things, where jats were in foremost agenda, but charan missed it, being a pm he was too busy with his gaiya..even if jats really dont need hand outs but they must be served with some compulsury hand outs, i remember long back some sidharth saharan, dudee, kharub, hooda,...n all rajasthan jats etc.. wrote that jats really need reservation at least for a few years....

 

[anrtish]

a few mongolian archers controlled the world. where half of worlds population, was being ruled by mongols

 

[anrtish]

chrzzz for antriksh chaudhary, sunil kadian, prashant hooda & vivek gathwala for supporting JAT RESERVATION.

(the counter increases evry time u visit this thread... hence its showing more visits).

this is well known that aryan conqurered indian sub continent due to bows, arrows n horse that they braoght from outside, babur capttured India due to his topkhana, where for the first time aeroplane was used in first world war, where radar saved english from german, where nuclear bomb made america super power, where today knowledge of internet etc. is precious, similarly if a jat pleads that he does not what reservation is n throws his blatant views here is never to be excused for his next births...even.. he does not know what is he doing to his fellow beings...

 

[anilsinghd]

No wonder I always hated History !