Drawbacks in "system"

[vicky84]

Friend,

Every one demands and agrees that certain corrective steps in our administrative system especially at delivery of services need immediate attention at the level of policy makers and it is heartening to note that in recent years some measures to make it transparent have been initiated. This is a good beginning and needs further push to expedite to make it further workable, responsible and sensitive.

Respected Sir,

I appreciate your positive attitude and optimism. As you said, some measures have been taken to make the process transparent. But still some of them are absurd. Sorry for strong words but I found them very inefficient. For instance, DOPT has taken an initiative to amend a rule in order to remove inefficient, unproductive IAS officers. However the time frame they have set to check their performance is 15 Years. How can we say it is a substantive measure. Why 15 years to check the performance. Why not on yearly basis. Such measure is joke! It still shows that we have too much sympathy for inefficient people! So I lost faith in these measures!

Regards,

 

[fateh]

Friend,

Every one demands and agrees that certain corrective steps in our administrative system especially at delivery of services need immediate attention at the level of policy makers and it is heartening to note that in recent years some measures to make it transparent have been initiated. This is a good beginning and needs further push to expedite to make it further workable, responsible and sensitive.
But we must remember that enlightened citizens' cooperation to make any system effective is of utmost importance. We should concentrate our efforts and contribute towards making them aware about their rights and duties at the same time. This will surely help in overcoming the bottle necks in the delivery of timely services.

Thanks and regards.

Brother, you are right but in addition to your point, my submission is that more than policy makers it execution which needs total rethinking and corrective measures, our execution is totally inefficient, non motivated, biased and selfish, At the same time I agree that legislative, judiciary and media are equally corrupt, inefficient, biased and selfish and need corrective measures regards

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Respected Sir,

I appreciate your positive attitude and optimism. As you said, some measures have been taken to make the process transparent. But still some of them are absurd. Sorry for strong words but I found them very inefficient. For instance, DOPT has taken an initiative to amend a rule in order to remove inefficient, unproductive IAS officers. However the time frame they have set to check their performance is 15 Years. How can we say it is a substantive measure. Why 15 years to check the performance. Why not on yearly basis. Such measure is joke! It still shows that we have too much sympathy for inefficient people! So I lost faith in these measures!

Regards,

Friend,

You want one year period and not fifteen years to remove 'inefficient' IAS officers, shows (contrary to your views expressed in last line of the post) your faith in the system, of course, with certain riders and this is a good sign to press for reforms.

Thanks.

 

[vicky84]

Friend,

You want one year period and not fifteen years to remove 'inefficient' IAS officers, shows (contrary to your views expressed in last line of the post) your faith in the system, of course, with certain riders and this is a good sign to press for reforms.

Thanks.

Respected Sir,


I did not mean that 15 Years is required to check the performance of IAS officer! I am not sure how you interpreted my post. You are very optimistic person and very patient person! However I am not that patient like you. You can wait for 100 Years and can tolerate inefficient people however I do not have such tolerances. Anyway everyone has an opinion. Having said that, It does not matter what I think or you think. Its has no relevance to the policy makers.

Thank You.

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Brother, you are right but in addition to your point, my submission is that more than policy makers it execution which needs total rethinking and corrective measures, our execution is totally inefficient, non motivated, biased and selfish, At the same time I agree that legislative, judiciary and media are equally corrupt, inefficient, biased and selfish and need corrective measures regards

Friend,
I respect your views but fail to understand from whom do we demand or expect reforms when, according to your views expressed in the post under reference, all the four pillars of democracy Executive, Legislature, Judiciary and, of course forth pillar, Media are in such a state!

Regards

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Respected Sir,

I appreciate your positive attitude and optimism. As you said, some measures have been taken to make the process transparent. But still some of them are absurd. Sorry for strong words but I found them very inefficient. For instance, DOPT has taken an initiative to amend a rule in order to remove inefficient, unproductive IAS officers. ..... Why 15 years to check the performance. Why not on yearly basis....

Respected Sir, I did not mean that 15 Years is required to check the performance of IAS officer! I am not sure how you interpreted my post. ......Thank You.

Friend,

Compare both your posts and then come out with your comments on my 'interpretation' ( Bold words mine in your first and second posts).

Thanks and regards

 

[vicky84]

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Friend,

Compare both your posts and then come out with your comments on my 'interpretation' ( Bold words mine in your first and second posts).

Thanks and regards

Respected Sir,

You are right ! And I am sorry for my writing.

Thank You.

 

[vicky84]

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[vicky84]

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[drrajpalsingh]

Respected Sir,

You are right ! And I am sorry for my writing.

Thank You.

Dear Friend,

There is no question of sorry as we are participating in an academic discussion and there is always scope for divergence of opinion on specific issues in a democratic society. Therefore I respect your right to freedom of expression.

Hence you are welcome to continue the discussion as you deem fit.

thanks and regards

 

[fateh]

Friend,
I respect your views but fail to understand from whom do we demand or expect reforms when, according to your views expressed in the post under reference, all the four pillars of democracy Executive, Legislature, Judiciary and, of course forth pillar, Media are in such a state!

Regards

Dear, please do not mind, I want reforms from people like you who are shaping the new generations, Otherwise, even a child knows that reforms can be brought by the contribution from all, may not be equal.my dear rajpal no pillar can be good/bad yes degree may differ, I have already expressed earlier in some post about steps required but one point is repeated that thinking of people about life, has to be changed which can best be done by all gurus-mother, father,sanskar guru and gian guru. Ofcourse, I do not spare other members of the society from the responsibility of reforms, every one of us has to do its bit,

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Dear, please do not mind, I want reforms from people like you who are shaping the new generations, Otherwise, even a child knows that reforms can be brought by the contribution from all, may not be equal.my dear rajpal no pillar can be good/bad yes degree may differ, I have already expressed earlier in some post about steps required but one point is repeated that thinking of people about life, has to be changed which can best be done by all gurus-mother, father,sanskar guru and gian guru. Ofcourse, I do not spare other members of the society from the responsibility of reforms, every one of us has to do its bit,

Dear Friend,

You are right that there is dire need of social reformation in which every member of the Indian society has to contribute his humble bit. But this process of social reformation takes shape gradually and paticence is required to see the results of this process as we have witnessed in the case of reforms movement started from the time of Raja Ram Mohan Roy in the mid 19th century and carried on by the greats like Swami Dayanand Saraswati, Vivekananda, Fule, Sir S.A. Khan, MK Gandhi, BR Ambedkar and others in the 20th Century India. The 21st century has yet to find emergence such titanic personality to salvage their sinking spirits.

Need of the hour is every one comes forward to appreciate the multi-cultural, secular, democratic nature of Indian Nation as envisaged by founding fathers of the Indian Constitution. If anyone finds aberrations, he is free to knock at the doors of the highest body of judiciary and to take recourse to other remedial steps through constitutional methods. Then, in addition to other provisions, Right to Information Act is there to bring about transparency in the functioning of various organs of the State.

So far as improvement/reforms in the functioning of various departments of the central and state governments level are concerned, the policy makers (both, political and bureaucratic leadership) have been doing their job. But, the pace of reforms seems to be slow to the common man nowadays; because, due to IT explosion the expectations of the public have increased manifold. This phenomenon needs time bound steps to address all feasible demands for reforms in a transparent and visible manner to convince the public at large about the good intentions of the ruling elite irrespective of party affiliations.

To sum up, it is the duty of every citizen of the country to stand by the constitutional institutions and respect them to make India great in real terms.

Thanks and regards.

 

[fateh]

Dr sahab,all the names agreed but as per my personal assessment, Ambedkar did nothing, he was there for a name, this mk gandhi harmed the country maximum, most characterless, canning and became father and made nehru as chacha of the nation for harming the country useless fellow,

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Dr sahab,all the names agreed but as per my personal assessment, Ambedkar did nothing, he was there for a name, this mk gandhi harmed the country maximum, most characterless, canning and became father and made nehru as chacha of the nation for harming the country useless fellow,

Friend,

Everyone has his or her likings and dislikings for persons and things and you are free to hold your own estimation of the persons referred to in the post under reference.
But it is generally accepted fact that Dr. B.R Ambedkar and M K Gandhi did a lot for uplift of the down trodden people. Agreed that they were persons in flesh and blood and might have erred here and there but none can deny their contribution towards constitution making and freedom movement respectively.

Regards

 

[vicky84]

Dear Friend,


Need of the hour is every one comes forward to appreciate the multi-cultural, secular, democratic nature of Indian Nation as envisaged by founding fathers of the Indian Constitution. If anyone finds aberrations, he is free to knock at the doors of the highest body of judiciary and to take recourse to other remedial steps through constitutional methods. Then, in addition to other provisions, Right to Information Act is there to bring about transparency in the functioning of various organs of the State.

Respected Sir,

You are right in saying that anyone can knock the doors of the highest body of judiciary but our judicial system is also inept. Millions of cases are pending and current situation is so bad that if you appeal for something today, it may take forever to get the results. Respected sir, we do not need reforms. We need overhaul if we want to improve our system. There is a pending work of more than 64 years.


Regards,

 

[vicky84]

Nearly 30 million cases pending in courts

Over three million cases are pending in India's 21 high courts, and an astounding 26.3 million cases are pending in subordinate courts across the country.

At the same time, there are almost a quarter million under-trials languishing in jails across the country. Of these, some 2,069 have been in jail for more than five years, even as their guilt or innocence is yet to be ascertained.

This has been revealed by official figures emerging from the home ministry's department of justice, under a Right to Information Act application placed by a citizen.

It has also been found that over a quarter of all pending high court cases are at Allahabad.

The Allahabad High Court had some 1.09 million pending cases, with over eight out of every 10 cases being civil cases at the end of 2006. Meanwhile, the Supreme Court of India had a total of 39,780 civil and criminal pending cases at the end of last year.

Madras High Court (406,958 pending cases) and Bombay High Court (362,949) were the others with a large number of pending cases. Sikkim is the lowest with just 51 pending cases.

Of the pending cases in high courts, 704,214 were criminal and 3.2 million were civil cases.

In subordinate courts, Uttar Pradesh again topped the number of pending cases (4.6 million), followed by Maharashtra (4.1 million), Gujarat (3.9 million), West Bengal (1.9 million), Bihar (1.2 million), Karnataka (1.06 million), Rajasthan (1.05 million), Orissa (1 million), Andhra Pradesh (900,000).

In another query, the National Crime Records Bureau that functions under the home ministry told Hari Kumar P. of Kasargod in a Right to Information Act reply that the number of under-trials in India was highest in Maharashtra (15,784) and Madhya Pradesh (15,777).

Bihar (with 628 prisoners) topped the number of states with the maximum number of under-trials kept for over five years. Punjab also had 334 under-trials for over five years and Uttar Pradesh had 212. Delhi itself had 344 under-trials languishing in jails for over five years.

On the positive side, some states had no under-trials in jail for this long a period without their trials being completed. These states included Andhra Pradesh, Goa, Himachal Pradesh, Kerala, Manipur, Mizoram, Sikkim, Tamil Nadu, and Tripura, apart from some smaller states and union territories.

 

[vicky84]

Respected Sir,

Read my above post. It is shocking!!!!!!!!!


Thanks

 

[drrajpalsingh]

Respected Sir,

You are right in saying that anyone can knock the doors of the highest body of judiciary but our judicial system is also inept. Millions of cases are pending and current situation is so bad that if you appeal for something today, it may take forever to get the results. Respected sir, we do not need reforms. We need overhaul if we want to improve our system. There is a pending work of more than 64 years.
Regards,

Dear Friend,
Indeed, our judiciary is over burdened and unending list of pending cases in the High Courts and Supreme Court needs immediate attention of the policy makers, because long delay in delivery of justice leads to anxiety and frustration in the minds of the people as the maxim goes: Justice delayed is justice denied.

Hence immediate corrective methods required.

Regards

 

[ygulia]

This is going on for long time, probably you came to know about it now. Do not blame judiciary for this backlog. Judiciary of India is the most over loaded workforce in the world and that too working with limited resources.
Why people do not ask questions regarding it to their local MLA/MP?
Why people do not ask about the progress?

who is responsible for it? no one else, the citizens of the country who just go and vote for brotherhood, friendship, vested interest etc.etc
No one think about the real problems..........., we should blame ourselves for this situation which is at present at alarming level and may go out of hand one day.

Respected Sir,

Read my above post. It is shocking!!!!!!!!!


Thanks

 

[akshaymalik84]

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