Finish the word "OBC" from JAT Dictionary

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BAHUT APMAAN HO CHUKA HAI.
AB KAHANI KHATAM KAR DO IS RESERVATION KI.
SAMNE NAA SAHI PAR PITH PICHHE LOG HASI HI UDAATE HAI.
HUMAN BEING IS A SOCIAL CREATURE SO MAINTAIN THE REAL STATUS OF JATs IN THE SOCIETY.
JATon KA VIKAS RESERVATION SE SHURU NAHI, balki RESERVATION PAR KHATAM HAI.
MAKE A GATHERING & FIRE ALL OBC CERTIFICATES WHOM SO EVER HAVE GOT.
IT WILL NEED SOME COURAGE BUT THE RESULT WILL BE SUPER POSITIVE IN ALL RESPECT & FOR EVERYONE.

JAB SE YE WORD SUNA HAI GHUT GHUT KE JINA PAD RAHA HAI.

FEELING LIKE A RACE IN WHICH LION HAS TO RUN WITH DOGS & LION ITSELF HAS TO START RUNNING FIRST (bluddy relaxation).
IS TARAH JITNE SE HAAR JAANA JYADA ACHCHHA HAI.
JAT ARE THE LIONS WHO NEED NO RELXATION. LION LET OTHER TO RUN FIRST & THEN BEAT THEM.

JAT IS JAT NOT OBC.


BE JAT
 
I completely agree that our community doesn't need any such reservations.
I think we all know and understand it well that reservation is nothing more than dirty politics.
Had it been be the politics with an intersest to raise backward communities, they would have atleast taken the pain to identify people who are financially poor and could have considered exempting the fees of deserving cadidates. But 'NO' this won't provide politicians a vote bank ........ thats why they are dividing people on the basis of their caste.
I think we need to understand that we are underestimating our potentials and doing un-justice with the deserving people by adding a caste certificate to our documents.
We are capable enough to decide and earn what we deserve.
Lets not allow the politicians to ruin our carrers and our socity.
 
Obc

OBC

I had already posted this under a different thread
BC WHO ARE THEY

I a retired Brigadier with a post graduate degree in Physics, son of a District magistrate, with brothers all with post graduate degrees. Sister married to an IPS Officer, who retired as DG, siblings all doing well and at top levels in chosen fields, my own children no less . A second generation out of village, proud of my heritage and background one day suddenly I became , to my horror, an OBC, that too with retrospective effect, even my father and grand father and all down the chain.

The real OBC, as I look back was the high- cast `Brahmin Cook`, proud of his sacred thread , the loin- cloth and the undisputed rule on the kitchen happy with a salary of couple of rupees That was at Gorakhpur during 1937-38,

Till now I was proud of my status and my background but now I am extremely chary and making all efforts to hide my OBC Status.

Brigadier Lakshman Singh VSM (Retd)
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I feel very bad when ever i see such type of attitude of our jats. what is bad in this word OBC. when there is reservation, why not for jats...they deserve it first rather than last. i m not saying dat reservation is gud for country..it is not...but when most of the communities r getting it...why not jats. when all r getting mangoes freely then why should jats make mangoes for themselves.
2nd thing U people r crying on this word OBC like u hav lost everything... Jats hav got some reservation in delhi, UP, and rajasthan...here also jats of only Rajasthan are getting it in central govt. institution. delhi nd UP jats have only state reservation. nd jats of Haryana, pUnjab r still in General.
i hav so many friends from all these states nd i or they never feel they r no more jat. this is like before getting a full bread u started crying we don't want it..nd they (Politicians) r also not interested in giving U...they hav excuse of people like U...
U r oK..ur family is doing gud..dat doesn't mean all jats are doing well..
some people are doing very gud in every community..then why reservation for those communities.
Go to villages nd see for urself ..wat is situation with jats there..then say..situation is so horrible...there is no big farmlands becz of family division..
how jats are living there..its terrrible...no so poor literacy.
and Supreme court has said dat ppl in creamy layer won't get reservation..so plz fight ur case in Sup. Court. dat u should be kept out of OBC.
why u want to crush the whole community for ur superficial happiness.
let me ask one more thing..wat u hav done for ur community/fellow jats of ur family or native place.
If u hav done sth for anyone then u must know the real facts..

i m so sorry..wat ever i said if u r not happy with this but this is true.
U can with me i can show u things..
then u may understand..
may God help u...
 
shameful

Agree with Rahul……it’s really shameful that JATs who wants to be known as marshals but when its comes for hard work and competition then they want a shortcut …….
 
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I am not so senior & not as much experienced as others on our site. May be very little weightage to what I say. But I am sure of one thing.

Situation is much more adverse than we are thinking.

Jis caste ke saath bhi OBC word juda hai wo BARBAD ho gayi hai.

Ek unemployed GENERAL category (Socially Highcaste, as considered) kabhi bhi kuchh bhi kar sakta hai. Success sometimes comes late. But it comes if you are right.

A GENERAL category person gets respect all over INDIA. He/She can start any business TUTION, SHOP, RESTAURANT, SCHOOL/COLLEGE, LIBRARY or A TEA SHOP even. I have observed that comes out to be successful most of the times.
Hum log bhi kabhi Tea wagerah ke liye jaate hai to prefer karte hai ki kisi pundit ki dukaan par hi chai piyenge because of social status. This may be a stupid example for most of the members but if you will observe deeper you will definitely come to know how important it is.

Hum log apni INNER power ko kyo nahi samajh rahe hai?

If we take initiation to reject RESERVATION (i.e. OBC) the community "JAT" will be shining at the apex of Society. Because it is the most disputed issue now a days. This is a chance for all of us to PROVE that "we are JAT & why we are JAT".

If I would have a famous/powerful person I would have taken some other steps. But I am simply a member who is 25 years of age.
But I want to tell you one thing. It takes almost 4 years for me to get a JOB (in AAI, A PSU, as an ATCO) but I am very happy that I got it without reservation. I would prefer to be unemployed rather than to get a job with reservation. I am from a lower middle class family. But proud to be GENERAL.

If it happens this website will proved to have done something great for JATs One more thing if anything can be done by OBC reservation, then why do we need this site even. Please don't take it otherwise. Think deeply.



Reseravtion ka issue tabhi khatam hoga jab koi reserved caste initiate karegi.

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There is nothing wrong with reservation. It started only recently otherwise I could have also taken benefit from that. I am not sure why you are so upset with getting clubbed with OBC. This is a fact and to believe it you have to go and see the villages which are not on the outskirts of big cities like delhi, Noida and Gurgaon. Jats there do not have any source of income apart from leftover lands which does not even takes care of 3 times proper meal. Most of the jats there now are working as labourers in shops/factories for a meagre 2000 Rs. But they have to as it is a question of survival. Some of the macho jats who feel embarassed in doing those kind of jobs resort to loot maar. Very few percentage like us do these kind of preachings on the behalf of the entire community without knowing the ground reality. OBC status is awarded very recently and if we would have done something remarkable without that then that would have been done by now. Whatever little benefit we can get from OBC status should be appreciated as it is a concrete things and is benefitting us in some way though the impact won't be remarkable. Those who do not wish to take advantage of OBC status they can continue the way we were doing earlier.
 
Jats wil remain Jats ! The problem starts when you start comparing your self with other people who fall in SC/ST/OBC category.

We dont need to develop any kind of inferiority complex when we know who we are.

Think about poor classes in Jats who will get benefit of reservation. Let them have their benefits. It will help our community. Think smart! Dont be so selfish!

If some of us think they are some big guns and really well off, then go and do something for our poor Jats. Dont snatch their benefits.









 
I was born in Haryana and brought up in Delhi.

I have seen plenty of Jats who moved from Haryana , Up , rajasthan because they didnt have enough land to survive.
They started working as 3rd class employees like DTC drivers , conductors, municipality, constables etc. and its still hard for them to survive. I know how their kids live.

Think about our people who live in 1 bedroom filthy units with their family , they cant even think of sending their kids to good private schools. They cant have any comfort in their life.

Unfortunatly, reservation is given on basis of caste not financial condition of people.

Basically Poor should get the benefit regardless of their caste.
 
dear friends

Agar apko jat itne hi backward najar aa rahe hain to.......aap log bhi gujjaron ki tareh ST status ke liye agitaion start kar do..

I belongs to haryana, but fir bhi logon ko samjahan padta hai ki mein OBC nahi hu.....General hoon..

And would like to be General always....
 
OBC status 4 jats

Hi, jatlanders!

I completely disagree with the veiws expressed by Mr rahul, Ms Shashi & Brig Singh. We must know that every jat, in fact most of us r not born with silver spoon in mouth (like Brig sahab). If all (selfstyled forward jats) think that they r with the birathery & all in our birathery r at par with them (& other forwards like brahmins, rajputs, banias, kayasthas etc) then they r wrong. let us not live in fool's paradise, go & c the condition of our fellow jats in villages. If our community can enjoy a slight advantage with the OBC status I c no harm. In fact we must demand for more.

Today in India % popn of OBC castes is 52 and share of pie given to them in Govt jobs is just 27% (that too in recruitment not in promotion) which is unjust. So called forward castes r just 20% of the total popn but enjoy 51% of the job share​
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I dont feel ashamed of being in OBC caregory if my community is benefitted by this. I request all those who feel ashamed of being called OBC to think for the broader/general good of the community.

Sorry for being in disagreement.

Vinod Dhatrawal​
 
Reservation wrong/ Antireservation wrong

Dear friends,

The reservation is completely wrong in the present sense. What it is trying to do is equalise ends and not the starting points. First of all why there is need of reservation. Reservation means that a particular post/seat is reserved for a particular class of people irrespective of the qualifications/Skills needed to suite that post/seat. This may be giving job to people from certain communities and good for them in sort span ,but is this a good thing for country/communities in the long run? Where we are filling positions for obligation and not according to true requirment. What I am saying is not anything new, you can heard this argument from lot of people who are against reservation, but one thing in which I am in disagreement with them ( people against reservation) is that only solution to get rid of reservation is to oppose it and get a system which is merit based. But there merit system is also trying to equate the ends. Yes we need to have merit system where the true deserving candidate gets the opportunity, but only after giving equal opportunities to all children. unless all the children get the equal opportunity talking about merit based system is nonsense.

And this is where the stress is very less. There needs to be a system in place which gives equal opportunities to all the children from the starting irrespective of social status,earning capacity,geographical location of thier family.
 
Hi,

OBC reservation is must for jats, I think Haryana goverment should also extend OBC quota for Jats.

there is nothing wrong in Reservation for Jats. see the prograss of yadavs in UP and bihar in slast 15 years...

One of my friend who belongs to Bihar told me that baniyas are also in reservation catagory in bihar...

Regards
Jitender
 
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Dukh Reservation ka nahi-

Dukh is baat ka hai ki aaj JAT jo kabhi apni shaan pe zara si aanch par jan luta dete the aaj wo tinke bhar ke labh ke liye naam lutaane par tule hai.

If reservation is the only key for development then why not give reservation ao all on yearly bases one by one.

I can clearly forsee what's going to happen...but as I said no earlier "no weightage to a person who himself is nothing big".

I tell you one more thing
"Only JATs are having a golden opportunity to shine if they deny reservation. As none of the reserved caste in India had have the denial of the reservation. I m saying it because JATs have the calibre to do so. & they will do one day."
 
crsnadar said:
BAHUT APMAAN HO CHUKA HAI.
AB KAHANI KHATAM KAR DO IS RESERVATION KI.
SAMNE NAA SAHI PAR PITH PICHHE LOG HASI HI UDAATE HAI.
HUMAN BEING IS A SOCIAL CREATURE SO MAINTAIN THE REAL STATUS OF JATs IN THE SOCIETY.
JATon KA VIKAS RESERVATION SE SHURU NAHI, balki RESERVATION PAR KHATAM HAI.
MAKE A GATHERING & FIRE ALL OBC CERTIFICATES WHOM SO EVER HAVE GOT.
IT WILL NEED SOME COURAGE BUT THE RESULT WILL BE SUPER POSITIVE IN ALL RESPECT & FOR EVERYONE.

JAB SE YE WORD SUNA HAI GHUT GHUT KE JINA PAD RAHA HAI.

FEELING LIKE A RACE IN WHICH LION HAS TO RUN WITH DOGS & LION ITSELF HAS TO START RUNNING FIRST (bluddy relaxation).
IS TARAH JITNE SE HAAR JAANA JYADA ACHCHHA HAI.
JAT ARE THE LIONS WHO NEED NO RELXATION. LION LET OTHER TO RUN FIRST & THEN BEAT THEM.

JAT IS JAT NOT OBC.


BE JAT
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But I've seen Jats who're more educated offering water as peon to persons from reserved category who're less educated. What kind of lion that peon Jat is? And what you feel today Gujjar/Meena are fools? Your Rajasthan Jat brothers are fools?
 
More educated ho ke aur peon, ya phir UP me naukri nahin milne se criminal ban ke aap kaun se char chand community ko laga rahe hain. Ye Jat ke char chand kahan jate hain jab ek reserved category ka havaldar/thanedar use do dande sek deta hai?
 
The whole Cast thing will never go away if we keep treating certain sections of our society differently based on caste. Why not just end reservation totally? No good has ever come out of it and will never come out it.

In a scenario where you have given reservation to a certain individual to help him establish himself in society and that individual got a job, house etc. Why do you need to give his/her children reservation also? Isn't the whole supposed point of reservation to help the backward individuals of the society? Once you have done that why do you have to keep giving preferential treatment to their future generations? Reservation never made sense to me and never will and this kind of bullshit can only prevail in India which is very sad indeed.
 
Government is EVIL

There should be no reservation for anybody.
These reservations are in.......
1) All educational institutions where government has a say.(which is almost all of them)
2) All government jobs.

Here's the solution....
1) Government needs to get out of education all together - from elementary education to college. CBSE, NCERT, Haryana board, all regional boards should be immediately gotten rid of. Let schools teach what they want to teach. Private Colleges should not be forced to be affiliated to govt univ's and follow their sh*ty coursework - it is detrimental to any scope for research work - makes no sense.

2) There should not be any governmnet jobs available to anybody except defense and law enforcement (I wish there was some other way to do law enforcement - our courts and police are worst in the world - total mockery of democray - I like to call it cargo-cult democracy)

Discussing who should get reservations will not help anybody - this is just a weapon in the hands of evil government to keep people divided and take care of special interest groups. Even if you get reservations the government will f*ck you over in any other way. Government is BAD for you and you should try to sind ways to get them out of your life.
 
Privatisation of education is not a solution

sidchhikara said:
There should be no reservation for anybody.
These reservations are in.......
1) All educational institutions where government has a say.(which is almost all of them).....
.......should try to sind ways to get them out of your life.
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I agree with u sidharth that education should be taken out of goverments hands, but dear friend giving it in hands of private players in not the solution.If the whole power is given in thier hands they will surely expolite the system for thier own benefit. You may refer situtaion which arised when chatissgadh state has created numerious universities. Which lead to degradation of education and court has to intervene to close these universities.
Education cannot be made business. In my view education should be respolsibility of society. At grassroot level small groups should take care of education in thier locality instead of depending on goverement and private players.
In ancient india such system existed. There were gurukuls run by synasis and local people to support thier childerns education.

If a similar system can be started again then all the problems can be removed. There need not be any reservation as all the children will get equal opportunities irrespectuve of caste, social or finanancial situation of thier family.
 
Think Sir Ji

sktewatia said:
More educated ho ke aur peon, ya phir UP me naukri nahin milne se criminal ban ke aap kaun se char chand community ko laga rahe hain. Ye Jat ke char chand kahan jate hain jab ek reserved category ka havaldar/thanedar use do dande sek deta hai?
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Respected Sir, Aapko kya lagta hai ki 'RESERVATION" se PEON koi officer ban jaayega.
Aisa kabhi suna to nahi...!

Now a days there are immense opportunities such that if somebody having even little talent can earn good amount easily.

For example-
Brahmano ko kabhi Reservation nahi mila. Unke paas Jameen bhi humse bahut kum hai, bahut kum.............unko to ab tak peon kya usase bhi koi chhota kaam karna chaahiye tha.....but it is not so.

Reservation is the easiest tool now a days to foray or to perform in politics. We people be the targets, easy targets. We deviate from our path by merely a planned network of effective words of Netas.

So think over it being Impartial. (we generally have the tendency of being stud to what we have said. Like "Jo kah diya so kah diya". But time has changed. We have to accept sopmething if that is correct to all extent.

So many of my own relatives or far relatives had taken advantage of it. But it doesn't mean at all that I will support it.


It should be ended & It has to...
 
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