Getting married in same caste..
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saharan1628
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But is it your personal problem or u just out-of-blue dropped this marriage bomb here...Its really exploding
satyenderdeswal
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Caste system is really required..
Haan kati koi na milta caste main jab ki baat or hai (Matlab jiska byah e na hota ho)...
out of caste marriage is good for only two getting engaged, but not for there family most of the times.
And as much as i know, when you can get all type of qualities required in your partner in your caste, then why to look out.
And you will get more victims of intercaste marriage who cursed them selves on there decision after few years of marriage, which are unnoticed
Haan kati koi na milta caste main jab ki baat or hai (Matlab jiska byah e na hota ho)...
out of caste marriage is good for only two getting engaged, but not for there family most of the times.
And as much as i know, when you can get all type of qualities required in your partner in your caste, then why to look out.
And you will get more victims of intercaste marriage who cursed them selves on there decision after few years of marriage, which are unnoticed
Jat is not a caste. Jat is an ethnic group/race. We dont believe in caste system and we dont have caste among jats. All jats are considered of same status even if they belong to different religion. Muslim, Hindu and Sikh jats used to live together before others spolied it for us. Muslim jats folklore heroes are still sung by Hindu and Sikh Jats like Abdulla Bhutti and Mirja Jaat. We consider ourself as one even our faith is different. Only a few ignorant differentiate among themselves. We Jats don't prefer to marry outside our own ethnicity and neither want out kids to marry outside our ethnicity. Inter caste marriage is different to inter racial marriage.
Nothing wrong if we marry in our own ethnicity. A man cannot change his ethnicity. How can you remove it?
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i have heard about honor killings ... but owner killings .... is it some new concept or wat
saharan1628
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guru jion aur guruni jion...mai jabbe te poocho tha ak yo personal problem hai ya nhi....
Can't really give a generalized answer to this thing and if it would have a person-specific one,then kinda specific answer could have been possible
eeb laage raho kisi ki bhains ar kisi ki poonch pakadan....er ustaadz koi answer nikle to bta diyo...
manne bhi byaah karwana hai...ke bera thaara koi resultant answer mere kaam aaja
RAM RAM
Can't really give a generalized answer to this thing and if it would have a person-specific one,then kinda specific answer could have been possible
eeb laage raho kisi ki bhains ar kisi ki poonch pakadan....er ustaadz koi answer nikle to bta diyo...
manne bhi byaah karwana hai...ke bera thaara koi resultant answer mere kaam aaja
RAM RAM
i have heard about honor killings ... but owner killings .... is it some new concept or wat
It isn't something new but a spelling mistake. I should stop using the auto-correct option.
ravinderjeet
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100 baataan ki ek baat
gadhey ne maari laat
sotey huey ko jagaa saktey ho
jaagey huey ko nahi jgaa saktey
inney sab kayaaen kaa beraa s vipin ,ye sab aapney sawaarth k anusaar aapnaa mat banaa le sein.
kusumdhochak
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Choosing a life partner is a very complex decision and lots of factors count. So one yes or no answer is not possible for such a question.
For someone, whose family is open minded and he/she knows that the family will accept/ love their spouse irrespective of their castes, a intercaste love marriage is as much a bliss as a within caste love marriage ( I really don't believe in the racial superiority factor).
While for someone who knows his/her family is going to trouble their spouse because of caste and it is only going to make everyone's life worse, one might compromise and chose to go the society way.
But whichever be the case, the more important thing that we should try to encourage is that people as a society should not go and trouble the families who are happy with their intercaste marriages.
My personal opinion is that families should support their kids' choice of life partner if they find that the kid has chosen a good person and try to forget the caste differences.
And in many cases, it is generally the societal pressure that the families are worried about while they personally might not have a problem with an intercaste alliance.
For someone, whose family is open minded and he/she knows that the family will accept/ love their spouse irrespective of their castes, a intercaste love marriage is as much a bliss as a within caste love marriage ( I really don't believe in the racial superiority factor).
While for someone who knows his/her family is going to trouble their spouse because of caste and it is only going to make everyone's life worse, one might compromise and chose to go the society way.
But whichever be the case, the more important thing that we should try to encourage is that people as a society should not go and trouble the families who are happy with their intercaste marriages.
My personal opinion is that families should support their kids' choice of life partner if they find that the kid has chosen a good person and try to forget the caste differences.
And in many cases, it is generally the societal pressure that the families are worried about while they personally might not have a problem with an intercaste alliance.
Agreed that Karm is above all.
BTW, my post did not relate Phd from MIT or IQ to Karm. It was about superior accomplishment of a person.
BTW, my post did not relate Phd from MIT or IQ to Karm. It was about superior accomplishment of a person.
sunillathwal
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Caste system is NOT a problem or curse, caste-based-discrimination is!!
It is human nature to associate himself/herself to (a) group(s). So, if someone flaunts his/her caste, why should this bother you? If the evils-of-caste-system is the propitiatory of Hinduism, why do Muslims (given that Islam have a concept of 'Ummah') have different sects (and they kill each-other quite often)? Christians also have different branches.
People will always find something exclusive to represent themselves. If it is not the Caste, it will be religion or geography or language or culture or food habits!!
Sometime back there was one article in The Hindu dwelling on this issue and author suggested that "we" should not use our surnames... it is wrong and what not!!
It is actually ironic that most liberals demonize caste-system (type of grouping), but find nothing wrong when people flaunt their religions (another type of grouping)!!
I mean, you talk about uniform civil code or demand a ban on full-body veil in public places or ban on turbans for certain jobs--- Bingo! you are fanatical anti-minority. But if you ask people not to flaunt their surnames/tilk on foreheads--- you are progressive!!
How is the caste-system any worse than religion as a 'social group' ?? Will you demand the removal of "religion" also?
If yes, what is next:uniform food habits? same attire for all? one language ?
BTW: Today, Caste-system is BENEFICIAL for so called lower castes who paradoxically claim to get the the wrong end of this stick!!
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If I remember well this kinda topic has been discussed numerous times. But it's always good to read fresh new viewpoints every-time. Keep it up ~
Anyways, may take on this. I feel if you're going for arranged marriage, there's no question for going inter-caste here. You all aware of benefits of arranged marriage like family support, same brought up, same culture and above all same psyche of partners in general so its easier to adjust and balance. Waise bhi Jat ko Jat hi jhel sakta hai.
But in rare case if you're in love with some one from other cast/religion you must go for marriage provided if it's mature and real love not a short-lived infatuation. I know a few couples young and elderly who married in inter-caste still they are happily living and respect each other. But watch out these are rare cases and the love and bonding is real, they respect for each other and their culture. In most cases love marriages fall like anything as soon as their intoxication of love comes down and they regret n' find it hard to adjust. So be careful, If the love is real and mature then only one should think about going for love marriages.
Btw, on a flip side, Jat gene will always dominate despite of where you marry!
Cheers,
Jit
Anyways, may take on this. I feel if you're going for arranged marriage, there's no question for going inter-caste here. You all aware of benefits of arranged marriage like family support, same brought up, same culture and above all same psyche of partners in general so its easier to adjust and balance. Waise bhi Jat ko Jat hi jhel sakta hai.
But in rare case if you're in love with some one from other cast/religion you must go for marriage provided if it's mature and real love not a short-lived infatuation. I know a few couples young and elderly who married in inter-caste still they are happily living and respect each other. But watch out these are rare cases and the love and bonding is real, they respect for each other and their culture. In most cases love marriages fall like anything as soon as their intoxication of love comes down and they regret n' find it hard to adjust. So be careful, If the love is real and mature then only one should think about going for love marriages.
Btw, on a flip side, Jat gene will always dominate despite of where you marry!
Cheers,
Jit
prashantacmet
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yes, it is. It's a part of every society, religion and every individual. "hatred" for others is buried deep in our heart at some level. It exists with every individual with different names as "caste hatred", "religious hatred" , "regional hatred", "racial hatred" and finally "individual hatred" no one is immune to this hatred disease. When this hatred comes out of slumber, you will end up with "calling names" to others. Simulation of a "individual hatred, you are driving down on a street and suddenly someone hit your car and run away, you will start muttering "kutta kameena harami" etc. I am not sure how many of us don't breach the "civilized line" at that situation but as per me most of us will be oblivious of this "civilized disguise" and hatred will take the driver seat.
Now coming back to calling names and our ancestors, "dhed", "geetal", "kirada", "haadi", "nokta" etc, are the words used for other communities in a frenzy of anger and frustration. So if a person is furious over other castes in the case of "intercaste marriage" and calling "dhed" it' s not a big thing ot it is like that everyone has to exhibit himself with only good traits in this virtual world no matter how malicious you are from inside?
Theek kah s Ravinder. Real life me kime aur kare he har kave he aade kime aur kave he. Kayi to ise technical he har aayi baat ka isa vishleshan(analysis) kar de he janu aadmi ek robot he har uske dil, emotion har samajik jaroorat aur jimedaari s hi koni.
I am not revolting against the people those are agreed to marry in same caste,My concern is about the people those are forced to that emotionally, mentally or sometimes physically.
Suicide is better than a murder,same in case of marriage, if you are doing it with your choice whatever will be the result you will not blame anyone, and if you are forced to, and it goes wrong , there will be fractions between your near and dear ones! which never be overcome.
Agree with you, but i didn't said that you should remove it, I am saying boys n girls should not forced for marriage, let them make a choice, As i mentioned in my previous post.
Why i will demand to remove the Religion, as i said my only concern is, I want that peoples should not force someone to marry, let them make a choice and if you not like their choice the reason should not be the caste.
cutejaatsandeep
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nice1...bhai saaab haryane ke gaoo ke see to kee baaat hogiiii aaapaaa deelhi waloo ki dhaaaal fashionn nee kar saktee kee?aur aap bolo to naukri pee kurtaa pajama paaairr jayaa karu?
Yes, you are right. “Hatred for others” and calling names is done in a "frenzy of anger and frustration" by an individual who can be part of any religion or caste or society. These are not the characteristics limited to our ancestors or our community, but to an individual. Self control is just as genuine as giving in to primal behaviour. Self-control is genuine, that's why you can see its manifestation in spoken/written words and behaviour, just as you can see the manifestation of "genuine" basal behaviour. And, self control requires efforts as well, so it is understandable why it can be a little difficult for some people to follow it, and especially in the virtual world. The same people would learn self-control pretty well in professional life or else they would face negative repurcussions for their so called genuine behaviour in personal life and with strangers.
And, “hatred” and “anger” are not synonyms. If a person is angry with someone, that does not mean that he/she hates that someone.
In conclusion, it is all a matter of personal choice, and how you justify it all to yourself by calling it genes, ancestors, natural/genuine behavior, true identity, group identity, religion, caste…whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
And, “hatred” and “anger” are not synonyms. If a person is angry with someone, that does not mean that he/she hates that someone.
In conclusion, it is all a matter of personal choice, and how you justify it all to yourself by calling it genes, ancestors, natural/genuine behavior, true identity, group identity, religion, caste…whatever makes you feel better about yourself.
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sunitahooda
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Anjoo n Prashant I feel the issue you are discussing is worth starting a new thread so lets discuss "Getting married in same caste" in this one and please start a new thread
so lets discuss "Getting married in same caste" in this one and please start a new thread