"Harit Pradesh" - whats this all about??

[sphougat]

Dear Colonel,


I have no interest in all these things. My interest is only development. I have nothing to do with any political party or any particular leader or person. I am just trying to explain whatever feedback getting through newspapers. In decision making theory whatever feedback you will get, you will decide as per lead theory, gain theory and lag theory. I think I am just trying to help the society and trying to help that possibly this kind of thing can happen. It is good if we can make advance decision as per gain theory. Sometimes we take timely decision that is per lead theory and sometime we make pending decision, so that time will automatically solve the problem. This is known as lag theory. I don't want to go in any kind of controversy.

 

[raj2rif]

Dear Phougat Ji,

All I am trying to convey is that there are enough poeple to instigate youth to take to violence. I personally feel that as an educated society we should not instigate, encourage or support violence. We could do better by other means of negotiations. The most important being convincing people and the authorities alike with justification of our cause. I am sure like you non of us want to get involved with any controversy.

Your explanation of various theories is really good. Frankly, I had no idea of this subject. It is a learning for me. I may have practices it in my life but did not know about it.

 

[varuntomar]

my reply to this thread comes rather late but i could not help posting.....

what will lead to better development bigger states or smaller states? well it is debatable.....

what lies at the heart of the demand for Harit Pradesh is a demand for a separate Jat state. it is immaterial who demands it.....ajit singh has to raise the demand because this is the demand of his people.....neways he does too little and too late......he is not the same person his father was but there isn't any good alternative either.......atleast he will serve his purpose best till somebody really comitted to the cause of the people takes over from him if and when he retires.......and people of chhaprauli dont vote for him....they vote for Chaudhary Saab and his legacy.......

charisma of a leader and his committment towards development are very important issues but what's the use of the charisma when u have to spend ur entire life sitting in the opposition benches......Chaudhary Charan Singh had a huge following but he was chief minister of UP only twice that too for a period of about ten months on both the occassions.....his term as the PM was shortlived too.......

compare this with the no. of brahmin CMs UP has had and surprisingly none of them was from western UP.......western UP has always remained a poor cousin as far as implementation of government policies is concerned despite the fact it is the single largest contributor to the state treasury in UP.....

UP is a vast state and badly needs reorganisation different leaders have their fiefdoms in different regions that almost lead to a situation where the possibility of a stable government is bleak......

if we just look at the pace of development on the haryana side of NCR and UP side of NCR we will probably get an idea what kind of a difference a stable govt. can have.......

all my life i never saw a proper road from delhi to my village (which incidentally lies on delhi-saharanpur road)....whatever existed was badly damaged and it was awfully bad in baraut.....but when anuradha chaudhary was made PWD minister (her portfolio was PWD if my memory serves me right)
we got many new roads in the region.......and it benefits me and others like me who can reach home in less time and the ride is less bumpy.....she is not a charismatic leader but being a minister helped in working for the betterment of her electorate.......

so the question is how will people of western UP benefit from the creation of a new state......the answer is simple they will have more participation in the governance and probably siting on the treasury benches might bring some change than sitting on the side of the opposition benches.....

the Jat factor in the state cannot be ruled out they will either head the govt. or will have a prominent say.....

demand for creation of Harit Pradesh is justified as was of Haryana in the 60s

 

[itsnavin]

what lies at the heart of the demand for Harit Pradesh is a demand for a separate Jat state. it is immaterial who demands it.....ajit singh has to raise the demand because this is the demand of his people.....

Varun
I think u've taken it wrong here...u know..Harit Pradesh, if formed, will have a Muslim majority...but I don't mind this as well. Smaller states can be better managed. Infact UP is too big to handle for the govts like these...
Anyway, it'll take years of demands, protests, sacrifices etc etc to get it done...and to max. it depends on Central govt. to support this view...
let's see what goes on...

 

[varuntomar]

as long as there will be rural constituencies Jats will remain the primary force in western UP or the proposed Harit Pradesh.......accept it or not votes cast in rural areas are not truly representative of all communities.........

now i hope the members dont come after me for publicly stating the much known but less talked about fact in the Jat belt.......

 

[vivek]

Leaving aside all political equations, it seems a smaller state would help in governance. There are tremendous inefficiencies and bottleneck in current system, that not only impede growth but discourage future business ventures. The duplication of services would be minor, and are needed in any case to make the blood flow through the administrative arteries without any clots.

There are obvious advantages to people in West UP, especially the jats who make up minuscule of voting population for the entire stateand are thus ignored. Same may say that Harit Pradesh is a political gimmick, but it is an idea that makes tremendous sense if you are a jat from West UP.