Haryana Girl Tops Indian Civil Services Exams 2011

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drrajpalsingh

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According To The Hindustan Times report:
Shena Aggarwal (25), a resident of Yamunanagar in Haryana, secured the first rank in the civil services examination-2011, the result of which was declared on Friday.
Shena hit the bull’s eye in her third attempt. She is an MBBS (bachelor's in medicine and bachelor's in surgery) graduate from All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), New Delhi. She was also the all-India topper in the Pre-Medical Test (PMT) in 2004.
She is currently undergoing 16-month training in the Indian Revenue Service (IRS), which started in December last year at Nagpur.
Shena told HT that she was extremely happy but also quite surprised to come up trumps. She started preparations for the exam after her internship at AIIMS in January 2010. She picked psychology and medical science as her subjects and then started brushing up her knowledge of current affairs.Shena said she did not go for coaching, but joined a test series in New Delhi.
Shena’s father Dr CK Aggarwal is a dentist in Yamunanagar; her mother is a housewife. A beaming Dr Aggarwal said, “She has always made us proud. She stood first in the Class-12 CBSE examination in 2004, and was also the topper of the 2009 MBBS batch from AIIMS.”

 
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It is a happy occasion to know that Shena Aggarwal from Yamunanagar topped the Civil Services Exam.

But this ponders us to think why MBBS doctors prefer to choose Govt.’s baboodom. Is MBBS doctors’ profession inferior to IAS in their own eyes? Not only Shena, there are several other cases when MBBS doctors have chosen Civil Service…and the trend continues. Does India want good doctors or mere chair-warrior bureaucrats? The policies framed by our bureaucrats are responsible for bringing down the status and morale of our doctors who either try to switch over to bureaucracy or to find green pastures either in private hospitals in India or in medical clinics abroad.

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dndeswal said:
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It is a happy occasion to know that Shena Aggarwal from Yamunanagar topped the Civil Services Exam.

But this ponders us to think why MBBS doctors prefer to choose Govt.’s baboodom. Is MBBS doctors’ profession inferior to IAS in their own eyes? Not only Shena, there are several other cases when MBBS doctors have chosen Civil Service…and the trend continues. Does India want good doctors or mere chair-warrior bureaucrats? The policies framed by our bureaucrats are responsible for bringing down the status and morale of our doctors who either try to switch over to bureaucracy or to find green pastures either in private hospitals in India or in medical clinics abroad.

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Good analysis!! Why people from IIM, IITs, AIIMS rush towards Govt's baboodom. Read in an article on TOI that an MBBS doctor passed out of AIIMS cost administration 1.7 crores rupees. Thus all the money spent of these doctors got lost. Not only money, the position occupied by the candidate could have been occupied by some else who was the aspirant and missed out with very low margin to get into AIIMS.

The other point to look at is why so many people are rushing towards IAS? IAS officer salary is very low and with such a high inflation and cost of living, I cannot say its an attractive job. With such a low salary, why so many people apply for Civil Services. I am not questioning the integrity of some candidates with good intentions but there are bad apples too.

Money(Through corruption, unimaginable amount of money), Power, Influence make most to apply for these services.
 
Question is quiet fair and important, "Why brilliant mind, once who chose a path to serve for the people of our country & humanity became a dirty mind to chose a bureaucracy?" So exactly we should appreciate it or rethink it!!
 
AIIMS pass out MBBS now IAS... wht a pride Dr ke bad babugiri kro..... AIIms me 1 sit ki asi tasi kri ab collectri.......


DrRajpalSingh said:
According To The Hindustan Times report:
Shena Aggarwal (25), a resident of Yamunanagar in Haryana, secured the first rank in the civil services examination-2011, the result of which was declared on Friday.
Shena hit the bull’s eye in her third attempt. She is an MBBS (bachelor's in medicine and bachelor's in surgery) graduate from All India Institute of Medical Sciences (AIIMS), New Delhi. She was also the all-India topper in the Pre-Medical Test (PMT) in 2004.
She is currently undergoing 16-month training in the Indian Revenue Service (IRS), which started in December last year at Nagpur.
Shena told HT that she was extremely happy but also quite surprised to come up trumps. She started preparations for the exam after her internship at AIIMS in January 2010. She picked psychology and medical science as her subjects and then started brushing up her knowledge of current affairs.Shena said she did not go for coaching, but joined a test series in New Delhi.
Shena’s father Dr CK Aggarwal is a dentist in Yamunanagar; her mother is a housewife. A beaming Dr Aggarwal said, “She has always made us proud. She stood first in the Class-12 CBSE examination in 2004, and was also the topper of the 2009 MBBS batch from AIIMS.”
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devchodhary said:
Question is quiet fair and important, "Why brilliant mind, once who chose a path to serve for the people of our country & humanity became a dirty mind to chose a bureaucracy?" So exactly we should appreciate it or rethink it!!
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Friend,
It has been said: Jaisee daristy vaisee sristee.
 
atishmohan said:
Good analysis!! Why people from IIM, IITs, AIIMS rush towards Govt's baboodom. Read in an article on TOI that an MBBS doctor passed out of AIIMS cost administration 1.7 crores rupees. Thus all the money spent of these doctors got lost. Not only money, the position occupied by the candidate could have been occupied by some else who was the aspirant and missed out with very low margin to get into AIIMS.

The other point to look at is why so many people are rushing towards IAS? IAS officer salary is very low and with such a high inflation and cost of living, I cannot say its an attractive job. With such a low salary, why so many people apply for Civil Services. I am not questioning the integrity of some candidates with good intentions but there are bad apples too.

Money(Through corruption, unimaginable amount of money), Power, Influence make most to apply for these services.
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Is there any way out to make out these services 'corruption free' and still more attractive to attract talent? Your comments please.
 
dndeswal said:
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It is a happy occasion to know that Shena Aggarwal from Yamunanagar topped the Civil Services Exam.

But this ponders us to think why MBBS doctors prefer to choose Govt.’s baboodom. Is MBBS doctors’ profession inferior to IAS in their own eyes? Not only Shena, there are several other cases when MBBS doctors have chosen Civil Service…and the trend continues. Does India want good doctors or mere chair-warrior bureaucrats? The policies framed by our bureaucrats are responsible for bringing down the status and morale of our doctors who either try to switch over to bureaucracy or to find green pastures either in private hospitals in India or in medical clinics abroad.

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Rightly said, brain drain from medical to bureaucratic positions needs to be immediately addressed by the policy makers.
 
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लोग जितनी इज्जत किसी ब्यूरोक्रेट या पोलिसी मेकर या नेता को प्रत्यक्ष मिलने पर देते हैं, बस उतनी अथवा उस से ज्यादा इज्जत हर डॉक्टर को प्रत्यक्ष मिलने पर दें तो क्या बात हो !

इमेज .... इमेज .... इमेज .... इमेज
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Friend,
What eligibility criterion do you suggest for Indian Civil Service candidates! Should doctors debarred from joining it?
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Doctors should be Welcome by people, it's good to have so much educated policy makers than low educated (or even uneducated in some cases) policy makers !!
 
Moar said:
लोग जितनी इज्जत किसी ब्यूरोक्रेट या पोलिसी मेकर या नेता को प्रत्यक्ष मिलने पर देते हैं, बस उतनी अथवा उस से ज्यादा इज्जत हर डॉक्टर को प्रत्यक्ष मिलने पर दें तो क्या बात हो !

इमेज .... इमेज .... इमेज .... इमेज
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Idealistic imagination but seems impossible in the present milliue!
 
all the Indian citizens are free to join any of the services (legal) they want to.

each person thinks and acts uniquely and no one can stop him/her from doing so.

People from civil services also resign their civil services jobs to pursue their personal goals or career in other fields - Subhas Chandra Bose(resigned ICS in 1921)........ arvind kejriwal (resigned in 2006).....

Excellence should come forth and the people should not raise their eyebrows on such personal choices.
 
Arveend said:
all the Indian citizens are free to join any of the services (legal) they want to.

each person thinks and acts uniquely and no one can stop him/her from doing so.

People from civil services also resign their civil services jobs to pursue their personal goals or career in other fields - Subhas Chandra Bose(resigned ICS in 1921)........ arvind kejriwal (resigned in 2006).....

Excellence should come forth and the people should not raise their eyebrows on such personal choices.
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Apt reply!
 
DrRajpalSingh said:
Is there any way out to make out these services 'corruption free' and still more attractive to attract talent? Your comments please.
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Will update you with some substantial content in due course. Before that I would like to cite opinion from a former IAS officer(Sanjeev Sabhlok) who left his job when he found that he is contributing to a corrupt system. He is currently working with Victorian Government in Australia(Melbourne). He has written very good eye opener articles about our our outdated bureaucracy(Indian Civil Services).

A must read book: http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/book1/BFN-fullbook.pdf



Building a New Bureaucracy for India


http://sabhlokcity.com/2011/05/building-a-new-bureaucracy-for-india/


One more:

IAS – the enemy of India


There is a word of caution I thought I'd share with those who are aspiring to join the IAS and other civil services in India – that they will effectively become ENEMIES of the Indian people. There is virtually no way to escape from that outcome.


We DO NOT need the IAS. It is a DISASTER. We need a merit-based contractual appointment system. The IAS is poison for India. With a modern administrative system India will do FAR better. And, of course, we need excellent politicians as well. (readhttp://bfn.sabhlokcity.com/)
[Those who join the IAS are] the implicit SUPPORTERS of corruption and socialism.
[Those who want to join the IAS] must closely watch out for the 'system'. If you allow yourself to be co-opted and therefore serve the corrupt, you will become the enemy of the people.
 
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DrRajpalSingh said:
Is there any way out to make out these services 'corruption free' and still more attractive to attract talent? Your comments please.
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The related article by Sanjeev Sabhlok of the same(One of the best article I have come across) :


http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...2090_1_ias-officers-bureaucracy-public-sector

Reform the bureaucracy



We face an inexplicable dichotomy in India between the performance of our public and private sector. While Indian business performance is often second to none, the results of India's public sector are poor beyond description. Delivering simple things like water, electricity, roads and education are well beyond our capacity. This is unacceptable and an explanation is in order.
The blame for our poor public sector performance can be laid on the way our bureaucracy is structured and on its incentives structure. I base this conclusion not solely on academic comparisons, but also on the learning acquired by working for 18 years in the IAS and for seven years in the bureaucracy in Victoria state in Australia.


Performance of senior Australian bureaucrats was significantly better than anything one had experienced in India. No IAS officer knows more in the relevant subject area, can think as well and as strategically, or lead a team of professionals better, than his Australian counterpart. Australia also constantly benchmarks against the world's best.
Being just a little better than Bihar is not considered sufficient.

A new bureaucracy can, however, emerge in India if certain principles are followed: abolition of tenure at senior levels; open market recruitment for each position; contestability of policy advice to political leaders; market competitiveness of remuneration and extensive delegation of responsibility.
It is true that merit is taken into account at the entry point of the IAS. But merit is not a one-off measure. Shouldn't a secretary to the government be a person with a proven track record? Shouldn't the person be an expert on his subject or a great motivator? What has writing a good essay in an examination at age 21 to do with being a good bureaucrat?

Second, we do not reward our officers for performance and integrity. The legal protections provided to IAS officers are such that even when caught taking bribes, they cannot be punished, let alone demoted for non-performance. Errant officers increasingly become indolent, arrogant and incompetent, and yet, advance without resistance into the position of secretary.

While Indian taxpayers support this ineffective bureaucracy, thinking perhaps that there is no alternative, advanced countries have used the findings of agency and public choice theory to design systems that reward expertise, leadership and ruthlessly punish bad performance. In doing so, they have transformed their public servants into dynamic agents of change and excellence.
We need to begin the desperately needed change by making a fundamental shift in accountability, ensuring that the bureaucracy becomes merely one of the many potential service providers to ministers. This can be done by ministers contractually appointing specialists who are committed to delivering their party's policy platform as their advisers. No file would then go to a minister without these advisers having had a look.
Ministers would then appoint their secretary through an open (preferably global) market competition — in the first instance, on a two-year 'hire-and-fire' performance-based contract — paying a salary comparable with what senior MNC executives get in India. Secretaries would similarly appoint their joint secretaries.

Each of the newly appointed secretaries would then implement a two-year strategic process to restructure the bureaucracy into departments such as defence, justice, external affairs, public finance, physical infrastructure, social infrastructure, commerce, social capital and community, and sustainability. This would involve significant training and redundancy planning.
A public administration Act could under-pin the restructured bureaucracy. Positions requiring significant judgment and leadership skills would be brought under a three-year performance-based contract. By no means will this reform be a panacea for India's chronic misgovernance. Our political and electoral systems need funda-mental reforms too. But we must begin somewhere, and changing our bureaucratic leadership will make a big difference.
 
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