Have guts to answer it ???

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vijay said:
Please don't try to guess Arun bhai, come with a solid solution.
You should be confident enough that u can do it in X moves and u will start from X square and how u will move on the chess board ?:) :) :)


yar woh mera solid solution hee thaa....starting from the first square....I am not able to do it in less than 16 moves.
 
arunshamli said:
yar woh mera solid solution hee thaa....starting from the first square....I am not able to do it in less than 16 moves.


Ok Arun, Write down your 16 moves and lemme check it.

I think u know how to write chess moves.
Every square have a specific name
Staring from left bottom square A1 going upwards A2, A3... upto A8.
Second column is B, third C upto H. Got it ?
 
vijay said:
Ok Arun, Write down your 16 moves and lemme check it.

I think u know how to write chess moves.
Every square have a specific name
Staring from left bottom square A1 going upwards A2, A3... upto A8.
Second column is B, third C upto H. Got it ?
A1-A8
A8-B8
B8-B2
B2-C2
C2-C8
C8-D8
D8-D2
D2-E2
E2-E8
E8-F8
F8-F2
F2-G2
G2-G8
G8-H8
H8-H1
H1-A1
 
Hey Vijay, i agree with Arun.My answer is coming to be 16 moves, and this time i am very confident to write the answer!!
 
arunshamli said:
A1-A8
A8-B8
B8-B2
B2-C2
C2-C8
C8-D8
D8-D2
D2-E2
E2-E8
E8-F8
F8-F2
F2-G2
G2-G8
G8-H8
H8-H1
H1-A1




GREAT ! Arun, you are right. Minimum moves are 16.
I have another solution for that . Check it.

I will start from D4.

1. D4-H4
2. H4-H8
3. H8-A8
4. A8-A1
5. A1-H1
6. H1-H7
7. H7-B7
8. B7-B2
9. B2-G2
10. G2-G6
11. G6-C6
12. C6-C3
13. C3-F3
14. F3-F5
15. F5-D5
16. D5-D4

 
Next !


A man reached police station to report his missing son.
Policeman asked, "What is the age of your son ?"
Man replied, "His age is 9 and a half yeas plus half of his own age":confused: :confused: :confused:



What is the age of the missing person ?
 
vijay said:
Next !


A man reached police station to report his missing son.
Policeman asked, "What is the age of your son ?"
Man replied, "His age is 9 and a half yeas plus half of his own age":confused: :confused: :confused:



What is the age of the missing person ?


The answer is 19.

Let me ask a question this time.

5 people have 100 gold coin to split among themsleves. They came up with a solution to divide the coins. the most senior memeber will propose a divison and everyone votes on it. if 50% or more member votes in favor of the proposal they will divide the coin that way, if not they kill the senior member and start all over agian and the most senior surviving member will have to propose the solution and they vote by the same rules, eithe divide the coins or kill the senior memeber,as the case may be. this process continues util one plan is accepted.

If You are the senior member ,What plan do you propose? your own vote will also count. everybody in the gang is extremly logical, greedy and they all want to live.)
 
vijay said:
Next !


A man reached police station to report his missing son.
Policeman asked, "What is the age of your son ?"
Man replied, "His age is 9 and a half yeas plus half of his own age":confused: :confused: :confused:



What is the age of the missing person ?


first solution to Vijay's question:

Let the age of boy be X years.
Now as given in the question, his age is 91/2 years plus half of his age,i.e. X/2 years.
So, X= 19/2 + X/2
solving this, v get X=19 years.
 
arunshamli said:
Let me ask a question this time.

5 people have 100 gold coin to split among themsleves. They came up with a solution to divide the coins. the most senior memeber will propose a divison and everyone votes on it. if 50% or more member votes in favor of the proposal they will divide the coin that way, if not they kill the senior member and start all over agian and the most senior surviving member will have to propose the solution and they vote by the same rules, eithe divide the coins or kill the senior memeber,as the case may be. this process continues util one plan is accepted.

If You are the senior member ,What plan do you propose? your own vote will also count. everybody in the gang is extremly logical, greedy and they all want to live.)


Follwing is my solution scheme for ur problem.Please check it and tell me if i m right or wrong:

Lets number the persons from N1 to N5----N1 being the juniormost and N5 being the seniormost....
In the riddle,its given that these people are very very greedy and logical too......
So what the N5 can do.....Here is my answer.........
Lets apply induction.

Case1: only one person.
If there is only one person,then he will have all the share.

Case2: two persons
let it be N1 and N2.In this case N2 would want to take all the coins,and he has 50% votes (his own vote) for
doing this. This way N1 won't be getting anything.

Case3: three persons
let it be N1,N2, and N3.So in this case N3 needs support of one more member.N2 wont support him,as he knows that if he is able to get rid of N3,then only two persons will be left and he will be at gain(see case2).So N3 would lure N1 for 1 gold coin.since each of them is extremely greedy and logical,so N1 would think that 1 coin is better than nothing,so he would accept his offer.In this way,N3 will have 99 coins,N2 will have none and N1 will have 1.

Case4: four persons
Let it be N4,N3,N2,and N1. then N4 needs support of at least one member. But he wont get it from N3 (from case3) and recursively from N1. So the only person left is N2. Again, N4 will have 99coins,and N2 will have 1.

Case5: five persons
N5 needs at least 2 more people on his side,to get his plan proposed......If we think logically,like them, we know that N4 would want to kill N5,since he is the next seniormost.......So he will lure N3 with one coin.N3 knows that if N4 comes,he won't get anything,so he accepts that deal...Next comes N2...Now he also would want to kill N5,since he would get advantage then...So the one that will be left is N1.The N5 person can share 1 more coin with N1.

So the solution scheme can be:
Person# No. of coins
N5 98
N4 0
N3 1
N2 0
N1 1

Similarly, there can be more solutions,(if N5 is less greedy),then
Person# No. of coins OR
N5 97 97
N4 0 0
N3 2 1
N2 0 0
N1 1 2
 
vijay said:
Well, excellent home work Neetu.

Arun, kya khayal hai ?


Bilkul sahi jawab Neetu.....there can be many solutions but the first one is more accurate. remember we said they all are extremly greedy:)
 
Let me also give out a riddle:



There are Three newly married couples.They decide to go for a picnic across the river.When they reached this side of the River bank....they found a notice saying," Dear honey mooners welcome!.......There is boat lying next to the board and if you want to cross the river then pay attention to the conditions carefully.....:

1] There will be no person to assist you in help sail the boat...u have to do it yourself.
2] Only two people can travel at a time in this boat.
3] No two or more women be left with one man any where ie neither on the either bank nor on sail.
4] No lady should be allowed to travel with a man....other than her husband.


How will they cross the river safely and happily?
 
devdahiya said:
Let me also give out a riddle:



There are Three newly married couples.They decide to go for a picnic across the river.When they reached this side of the River bank....they found a notice saying," Dear honey mooners welcome!.......There is boat lying next to the board and if you want to cross the river then pay attention to the conditions carefully.....:

1] There will be no person to assist you in help sail the boat...u have to do it yourself.
2] Only two people can travel at a time in this boat.
3] No two or more women be left with one man any where ie neither on the either bank nor on sail.
4] No lady should be allowed to travel with a man....other than her husband.


How will they cross the river safely and happily?




Welcome Dev sir here !

Im hope i understood it right.
I solved it in two different methods. But posting only one.

On left there are couples AM and AF, BM and BF, CM and CF.
First AM and AF goes across the river.
AM stays there AF comes back.
Now AF and BF goes across the river
AF stays there and BF comes back
Now BM and BF goes across the river
BM stays there and BF comes back
Now CM and CF goes across the river
Both stays there and BM comes back
Now BM and BF goes across

DONE SIR ?
 
vijay said:
Welcome Dev sir here !

Im hope i understood it right.
I solved it in two different methods. But posting only one.

On left there are couples AM and AF, BM and BF, CM and CF.
First AM and AF goes across the river.
AM stays there AF comes back.
Now AF and BF goes across the river
AF stays there and BF comes back
Now BM and BF goes across the river
BM stays there and BF comes back
Now CM and CF goes across the river
Both stays there and BM comes back
Now BM and BF goes across

DONE SIR ?


Vijay good try but no you are not right.......Check line seven of your solution...ie BM stayes there and BF comes back.....When BF reaches on CM+ CF side....This CM idiot has two females at his disposal....havn't you handed over a ROSAGULLA to him? Ha...ha..ha.
 
devdahiya said:
Vijay good try but no you are not right.......Check line seven of your solution...ie BM stayes there and BF comes back.....When BF reaches on CM+ CF side....This CM idiot has two females at his disposal....havn't you handed over a ROSAGULLA to him? Ha...ha..ha.
Let me also try...

assuming there name are AH-AW , BH-BW and CH-CW

1. AW and BW goes
2. AW comes back
3. AW and CW goes
4. AW comes back
5. BH and CH goes
6. BH and BW comes back
7. AH and BH goes
8. CW comes back( now all the ladies on one side and the husband on the other side)
9. CW and AW goes
10. Cw comes back
11. CW and BW goes



chakkar ghane toh nee hoge dikkhe...
 
Nice Try

arunshamli said:
Let me also try...

assuming there name are AH-AW , BH-BW and CH-CW

1. AW and BW goes
2. AW comes back
3. AW and CW goes
4. AW comes back
5. BH and CH goes
6. BH and BW comes back
7. AH and BH goes
8. CW comes back( now all the ladies on one side and the husband on the other side)
9. CW and AW goes
10. Cw comes back
11. CW and BW goes



chakkar ghane toh nee hoge dikkhe...

Dear Arun check your 5th and 6th line, CH is otherside with his wife as well as AW..
Nice try
 
devdahiya said:
Vijay good try but no you are not right.......Check line seven of your solution...ie BM stayes there and BF comes back.....When BF reaches on CM+ CF side....This CM idiot has two females at his disposal....havn't you handed over a ROSAGULLA to him? Ha...ha..ha.


Dev sir, sorry i got it wrong !
Ok. here is my solution.

On left there are three couples AM and AF, BM and BF, CM and CF.

First AM and AF goes across the river.
(BM, BF,CM,CF on left and AM,AF on right )
Now AM comes back.
(AM,BM,BF,CM,CF on left and AF on right)
Now BF and CF goes across the river
(All Males on right and all Females on right)
Now AF comes back
(AM,BM,CM AF on left and BF,CF on right)
Now BM and CM goes across the river
(AM,AF on left and BM,BF,CM,CF on right)
Now BM and BF comes back
(AM,AF,BM,BF on left and CM,CF on right
Now AM and BM goes across the river
(AF,BF on left and AM,BM,CM,CF on right)
Now CF comes back
(All Females on left and all Males on right)
Now BF and CF goes across the river
(AF on left and AM,BM,BF,CM,CF on right)
Now AM comes back
(AM,AF on left and BM,BF,CM,CF on right)
Now AM,AF goes across the river
(All on right bank and happy)


DONE SIR ?
 
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