History and Historians on Jat Mauryan Empire[ founded by Chandragupta in c 323 BC]

"The Mauryas: Their Identity", Vishveshvaranand Indological Journal, Vol. 17 (1979)

Excerpts from — "The Mauryas: Their Identity", Vishveshvaranand Indological Journal, Vol. 17 (1979), pp. 112-114 :




The Jain traditions do not mention Porus and Alexander, and about the Mauryas, they say that they were peacock tamers! This connection with peacocks (mor in Hindi) is quite widespread. Even the Buddhist records say that when the Mauryas, a branch of the Śākyas, were driven out of Magadha, they went to a hilly region where there were many peacocks. They built a city there and, because the colour of the bricks used in the city palaces was that of the neck of a peacock, they were known as Moriyas and their city was called Moriya-nagar. Peacocks were found engraved on the Nandangarh pillar, the Sanchi stupas etc. Peacocks were also known to have been kept in the parks of the Maurya palace at Pāṭaliputra. Therefore, Foucher, John Marshall and Grunwedel concluded that the peacock was the dynastic emblem of the Mauryas! Even in the Great Epic Mahābhārata, when it was revised during the Gupta period, their name was Sanskritised into Mayūraka, meaning `peacock tribe'.


All these peacock theories are mere fairy tales, without any grain of truth in them. The Mauryas had no connection whatsoever with the peacock; nor was it their dynastic or favourite symbol or bird. Pillar Edict V of Aśoka gives a list of protected animals and birds which were not to be killed, but the peacock is not one of them. So, the Mauryas were "peacock eaters, rather than peacock tamers" (Buddha Prakash, Studies in Indian History and Civilization, SIHC, p.73). Otherwise also, how is the son of a `peacock tamer' found getting education in Taxila, the greatest seat of learning for princes, situated a thousand miles away from Pāṭaliputra?


These stories came to be concocted because the clan name of these people was Mor (pronounced as English more) and, coincidentally, Mor also meant a peacock in Indian languages. But the name is not Indian at all, it is from Central Asia, and means `head' or `crown', which is the meaning of practically all the clan names of the Jats. It is this word which is mentioned as Moḍa, the crown worn by the bridegroom at the time of marriage even today. As r is pronounced by the Central Asian people with a slight sense of ḍ or rh (as in the word `Chandigarh'), it was also, erroneously again, thought to mean the Sanskrit moda, meaning `happiness' or `rejoicing'.


The Brahmanical writers knew it as mor. They wanted to declare these people as śūdras and therefore invented yet another story, viz, that Chandragupta Maurya was born of a woman named Murā who was a śūdra lady and hence he was called Maurya, being the son of Murā! But they failed to bother themselves about the fact that it is impossible to derive Maurya from Murā, with a long ā. It can be derived only from Moor or Mūra. Mor, has only a soft `o' and does not give the sound of `u' or `oo'. It is sounded as `poll'; and not as `pool' in English. Therefore, the theories `associating them with the tribe of the peacock-tamers are superficial' (SIHC, p.77). The appearance of the peacock on certain monuments of the Mauryas only reflect human admiration for the beauty of the bird. Even Alexander was so much charmed with their beauty that he threatened the severest penalties against anyone who should kill a peacock (Arrian, Indica, vol.15, p.218).


Other theories say that Mauryas were connected with the Nandas, Mura being taken to be the wife of a Nanda king, and, so the grand-mother or mother of the first Maurya. Similar is the claim of Mudrārākshasa and Bṛhat-kathā. These connections with the Nanda dynasty are manifestly absurd. Buddha designated these stories as `fallacious'. It is well known that Mauryas were a patronymic people who derived their name from their father and not from their mother. The Buddhist writers do not regard Maurya as a metronymic. They invariably represent it as the name of a clan (Age of the Nandas and Mauryas, ANM, by K.A.N.Sastri, p.141), the members of which ranked as kshatriyas since the days of the Buddha. Their kshatriya status is further testified by several medieval inscriptions (Epigraphia Indica, Vol.II, p.222). The Greek accounts, too, do not suggest a blood relationship between Chandragupta and the Nandas. The former is mentioned by Justin as born in humble life (Invasion, p.327). This also shows that Chandragupta was not born in the royal family of the Nandas and was not the scion of the royal line which he overthrew (ANM, p.141).





Excerpts from — "The Mauryas: Their Identity", Vishveshvaranand Indological Journal, Vol. 17 (1979), pp. 116-117 :




Grammatically, Maurya is a derivative from Mūra or Moor by adding the śyan suffix (Mahābhāṣya, 8.2.1). Therefore, the original word remains Mor/Moor and not Mayūra etc. The last word Mayūr or Mayūraka is a Sanskrit translation of the original clan-name Mor, which was unfortunately found to be the same as the Hindi word Mor meaning peacock. It is worth noting that the Greek writers mention the word as Moores or Mories. (Invasion, p. 108, 225 etc.). As is well known, the affix s, us, es, os etc. are generally added at the end of the personal names by the Greek writers. Dropping these affixes, there remains the word Moer or Morie. To clinch the issue, we have the Rock Edict No. 1 of Aśoka himself which mentions the word as Mora and not Maurya. Buddha Prakash seems to have evaded the issue by saying that "the meaning of the word Mora, occurring in R.E.I of Aśoka is not quite certain". (Op. cit., p. 73, note 3.). The meaning is absolutely clear and it is the name of the dynasty to which Aśoka belonged. Curtis described the word as the title of the king of Patala, supposed to be somewhere in Sind. He must have been led to believe so because Mor must have been used as the designation of more than one king of the royal family of Patala because it was their clan name. R. K. Mukerji (Chandragupta and his time, p. 24). Nilakanta Sastri (op. cit, p. 142, note 1) and others agree that the Greek term Moer has to be identified with the Maurya. The Buddhist texts invariably mention the name as Mor or Moriya, the latter being a derivative of the former. We must note here that many Jat clan names are similarly derived. E.g.

Gul : Guliya

Katar : Katariya

Potal : Potaliya

Sahi : Sahiya

Sibi : Sibiya/Sibia

Dahi : Dahiya

Pauna : Pauniya

According to the extended Mahāvaṁśa, (Ed. by G. P. Malakasekara, vol. V, 95-101, p. 60), which says:

[ .... Devanagari line ....]

the word was known in the entire Jambūdvīpa as Mor and Aśoka was known as Mor Rājā (SIHC, p.71). Here, it should be noted that in the extract given by Buddha Prakash, the word Mor, Mayūraka, Mayūr as well as Moriya Nagar appear togetherṛ This shows that Mor is not a Prākṛt or Pāli form of Mayūra. The author of Mahāvaṁśa knew all the words mentioned above. If Mor was an Indian word and a Prākṛt form of the Sanskrit Mayūra, `peacock', then it would not have been mentioned along with the latter. Mor is not an Indian name. It is the name of the Jat clan which still exists. We have also to note that this was the word used in this very form in Central Asia when the Mor clan of the Jats scattered in various directions. People came to India and who belonged to this clan used and pronounced the word as Mor. Their brothers who went to Europe and England, similarly used the word as Mor or More. If this was an Indian word and the Mauryans were an Indian clan, then the same clan name would not have been found in Western Europe, where its supposed original form, Mayūra, was unknown, as also the word Maurya.
 
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For some interesting views and discussion on the origin of the word 'MAURYA' kindly log in:

"The Mauryas: Their Identity", Vishveshvaranand Indological Journal, Vol. 17 (1979), pp. 112-114.

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''MAURAYAS--WHO THEY WERE...."


Dr. Hukam Singh Pawar, while summing up the long discussion on the origin of Chandragupta, the founder of the ruling dynasty of Mauryas ('The Jats: Their Origin, Antiquity and Migrations' pp.138-139) writes:


"All this leads us to the surmise that Chandragupta was, in reality, a high class Kshatriyas of the Morya clan of Pipphalivana i.e. of More town in the Patna district of Bihar."


For similar view also see, Dr. Budha Prakash, 'Home of the Mauryas' Indian Historical Quarterly, June 1955, 1955, Volume XXXI, No. 2. pp. 153-167 and also, J P Sharma, Republics in Ancient India ( c 1500 B C - 500 B C), 1968.
 
Derivation of Maurya from Mura is impossible.

Nonetheless Indian historians have lapped this theory up.

The correct lead is from Panini , as Dr. Singh has kindly drawn our attention to, that the term 'Maur' in Panini's works is shown as a goth( gothra).

There may have been some connection to Pipilvana, or there may not. The point is largely irrelevant. What is relevant that Maur is a goth, a clan name.

As Panini is conventailly dated circa 6th century BCe, this would indicate that the clan was significant enough in his times, to be refrenced in his works.

We can discard the claim of the origin of the Maur (ya) name from the female name Mura, or the Mor(Peacock) theory origin.



Increasing evidence indicates the the Maur(s) came from the north west.


They ended up taking over the Nand empire, by attacking the outskirts and then the central capital- Pataliputra.

There is also evidence that Chankya was a Jain and came from Taxashila( also in the northwest). That, as Jainism was a prominent faith then , it need not surprise us that Chandra Gupt died a Jain, and probably was a follower of Jainism.

Evidence also shows that the work of the Arthshastra ascribed to him ,is a composition centuries later than the times ascribed to the Mauryas. There are also doubts about the Arthashastra's decription and matching of the forms of the then society.

The claims of Chanakya's roles an an ancient 'king maker' and Machiavelli may be for the time be set aside.

It is also quite possible, that the Maur( Maurya) family/clan) had a Central Asian origin.

The Kushan family had a Central Asian origin.

Their empire spread from Central Asia to South India to the Eastern coast of India. Some families must have acted as local governors or Rajas, with local power. Some of the famlies' rule would have continued down the centuries. The presence of Gaharwal/Gaharwar/ Gahtwal clan/families may be taken in that light. The source name of modern Garhwal in Uttarkhand can also be examined for its links to this clan/family.

Many Jat clans have an origin common with the clans who came along with or before the Kushans. This does not mean all Jat clans came from Central Asia. The Yaudheya confederacy was certainly composed of Jat clans, and they clashed with and ultimately ended the Kushan rule in the North and Northwest.

J.P. Sharma's book is an excellent source on history as per the Vedic compositions. As long as we can ignore, his acceptance of the Aryan Invasion theory and his dating( 1,500 BCE), we have an excellent mine of information.

Dr. Sharma, was an Indian physician who settled in New York in the 1950's, married a Jewish lady, lived and practised in New York.

Not unexpectedly, his thinking was coloured by the Aryan Invasion theory( and the datings) which was then the accepted dogma. This has changed since.

His work indicates that Republics were the society of the tiimes.

The term RAJA or RAJAN has been misconstrued by Colonial historians to indicate a feudal/monarchial society. The term simply meant 'Head of the Household" and not a King.

The head of the community, was also called a Raja, indicating head/leader, and was an elected official. It was not a hereditiary position.


Undoubtedly Monarchial societies existed, but Republicanism was also at the fore, and this is what the evidence of the Vedas indicates Vedic society largely was.


J P Sharma's stalwart contribution to the History of the times, was to bring out the importance of Republics in Vedic society. I suggest that we can now safely accept that Republics were the dominant form.

Jat society has inherently been Republic. Their Panchyats, Khaps, decision making by consensus even today , are testimony to this.



It is then an easy conclusion to draw the link between the Jats and Vedic society.

It is in that light we have to take the works of Hukam Singh Pauria, and Bhim Singh Dahiya.


Their works are built not on fanciful imaginations, but on solid research, backed by evidence. They botb provide very powerful insigts into the ancient history, and specificallly that of the Jats.

Dahiya's work below, is

"The Mauryas: Their Identity", Vishveshvaranand Indological Journal, Vol. 17 (1979), pp. 112-114.

The quality of his work speaks for itself.

In the end, the final question by a historian author asked by himself of himself has to be : ' Will my work stand the test of time?'

I have a sense that B. S. Dahiya's work will.

Warm regards

Ravi Chaudhary
 
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Ravi Chaudhary ji has rightly pointed out to some light houses to guide the scholars to take their safe voyage to bring about newer facts from all corners of the world history to illuminate the history of the Jats in general and the History of the Mauryans in particular for which he deserves our thanks.

For the benefit of those scholars who do not have access to Puranas or have not adequate knowledge of Skt, the language of the Puranas, I reproduce the relavant extract from the Vishnu Purana regarding the ancient Mauryan dynasty started with Chandragupta and ended with the murder of V(B)arihdaratha.

The relevant entry in Vayu Purana about the Mauryan dynasty is as follows:

"Upon the cessation of the race of Nanda, the Mauryas will possess the earth, the Kautilya will place Chandragupta on the throne: his son will be Vindusarara, his son will be Asokavarddhana, his son will be Suyaas, his son will be Dasratha; his son will be Sangata' his son will be Salisuka; his son will be Somasarmman; his son will be Sasadharman; and his successor will be Vrihadratha. these are the ten Mauryas; who will reign over the earth for a hundred thirty-seven years."

It goes on to add: The dynasty of the Sungas will next become possessed of the sovereignty; for Pushpamitra, the general of the last Maurya Prince, will put his master to death." --------------H H Wilson, Tr. Vishnu Purana, pp. 375-376

We request all our fellow readers to join in the venture of finding out the lost pedigree of the Maurya Dynasty by putting in their posts of any ancient literature accessible to them or to inform us about the source so that the same could be utilized to illuminate the dark pages of Indian History by filling in the gaps by showing the glory of the Jats and their glorious deeds in the remote past.

Thanks
 
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For the benefit of those scholars who do not have access to Puranas or have not adequate knowledge of Skt, the language of the Puranas, I reproduce the relavant extract from the Vishnu Purana regarding the ancient Mauryan dynasty started with Chandragupta and ended with the murder of V(B)arihdaratha.

The relevant entry in Vayu Purana about the Mauryan dynasty is as follows:

"Upon the cessation of the race of Nanda, the Mauryas will possess the earth, the Kautilya will place Chandragupta pm the throne: his sone will be Vindusarara, his son will be Asokavarddhana, his son will be Suyaas, his son will be Dasratha; his son will be Sangata' his son will be Salisuka; his son will be Somasarmman; his son will be Sasadharman; and his successor will be Vrihadratha. these are the ten Mauryas; who will reign over the earth for a hundred thirty-seven years."

It goes on to add: The dynasty of the Sungas will next become possessed of the sovereignty; for Pushpamitra, the general of the last Maurya Prince, will put his master to death." --------------H H Wilson, Tr. Vishnu Purana, pp. 375-376

If we are willing to accept this account given by the Puranas as truthful, should we not also accept the dating given by the Puranas?

Ravi Chaudhary
 
If we are willing to accept this account given by the Puranas as truthful, should we not also accept the dating given by the Puranas?

Ravi Chaudhary

Chaudhary Sahib has raised a very valid question as to why the names of the ruling dynasty are acceptable and chronology given in the Puranas for the same ruling order is unacceptable. Why? Could somebody throw light on the issue.
 
If we are willing to accept this account given by the Puranas as truthful, should we not also accept the dating given by the Puranas?

Ravi Chaudhary

Chaudhary Sahib,

As suggested by you, the chronology of the Puranas must also be taken into consideration as authentic prooof or source so long as it is not contradicted by other more weighty original source.

Therefore, it would be a laudable effort if someone could furnish the Chronology of the Mauryan Dynasty established by Chandragupta as gleaned from the original study of Puranas [not their translations]. This would help us in weeding out many myths from the pages of history of ancient India .

Thanks
 
Chaudhary Sahib,

As suggested by you, the chronology of the Puranas must also be taken into consideration as authentic prooof or source so long as it is not contradicted by other more weighty original source.

Therefore, it would be a laudable effort if someone could furnish the Chronology of the Mauryan Dynasty established by Chandragupta as gleaned from the original study of Puranas [not their translations]. This would help us in weeding out many myths from the pages of history of ancient India .

Thanks

Allow me to disqualify myself.

I know no Sanskrit, Pali, Prakrit or any other ancient language.

Then too before the puranas were reduced to writing, they must have been in an oral form.

Again I would not know how to get hold of an recording - an original or a copy thereof .

Warm regards

Ravi Chaudhary
 
Allow me to disqualify myself.

I know no Sanskrit, Pali, Prakrit or any other ancient language.

Then too before the puranas were reduced to writing, they must have been in an oral form.

Again I would not know how to get hold of an recording - an original or a copy thereof .

Warm regards

Ravi Chaudhary

Chaudhary Sahib,

Allow me to make the record straight. The post under reference was aimed at getting involved some scholar who might be reading these posts and have knowledge of the Sanskrit used in the Puranas. Permit me to reiterate that any of the readers of these lines who has himself ability to take up the task of identifying the chronology of the Maurya rulers as given in various Puranas must kindly come forward to contribute his scholarly inputs in the service of the History.

Thanks and deep personal regards,

Sincerely
Raj Pal Singh
 
http://www.sdstate.edu/projectsouthasia/upload/JunagadhRockInscription-of-Rudradaman.pdf

‘ (L.8)………for the sake of………….ordered to be made by the Vaishya Pushyagupta, the provincial
governor of the Maurya king Chandragupta; adorned with conduits for Ashoka the Maurya by the
Yavana king Tushaspha while governing; and by the conduit ordered to be made by him, constructed in a
manner worthy of a king (and) seen in that breach, the extensive dam…………..”
Comments:
This inscription is dated saka era 72, thus bringing the date to the CE era, 72+78 = 150 CE.
It also refers quite clearly to Chandra gupta Maurya and Ashok Maurya, and to Chandragupta’s governor the Vaishya - Pushyagupta. It also refers to a yavana king Tushapa. Yavanas we are told are greeks.

I have not been able to find the original Sanskrit version, but would like to see what it says.

This is the only inscription where the Maurya (s) are mentioned.

The Mauryas by conventional dating existed some 500 years befor our friend Rudradaman.

If we can get away from being over excited to see the Mauryas mentioned as the constructors of the Sudarshan lake, and examine the matter critically, one must ask how Rudradaman or his inscriber acquired the knowledge about the Mauryas, some five hundred years later.

Is there any corroborative evidence for this?

None that I can find.

In the translation Tushaspa is described as Yavana .

I wonder what the original text says- Yavana or Yona?
 
Dr. Singh

Thank you for the clarification.

It encourages me to continue with my amateur attempts

Ravi Chaudhary

Thanks Chaudhary Sahib for your very critical comments and valuable inputs on various facets of the history and works of historians. All of us here are persons with a keen desire to bring to light controversial points for discussion and then involve them in sharing their knowledge with all of us. To sum up, it is a united effort of all the Jatland members to contribute their respective humble mite to enrich the existing history books of India in general and the role of the Jats through the ages in particular.

Kindly keep us guiding,and if necessary as a senior member of the team, chiding us as and when we miss the track.

Thanks and regards
 
Despite the fact that the Rudradaman inscription refers to the Mauryas as constructors of the Sudarshan Lake at Junagadh, it does not give any clue as to the dating of the Maurya family's rule.

Rudradamn's inription can be fairly accurately dated, as he issues coins with Greek lettering on them.

That would indicate that he came after the Greeks are found in the subcontinent.

There were a number of Saka eras in that period. He is taken to be 72 years after the saka era of 78 CE.

The best the some can claim is that a bunch of inscriptions of priydashini exist at Junagadh, and we can suggest a link to Ashoka. Ashoka may or may not be the Maurya in question.
 
Despite the fact that the Rudradaman inscription refers to the Mauryas as constructors of the Sudarshan Lake at Junagadh, it does not give any clue as to the dating of the Maurya family's rule.

Rudradamn's inription can be fairly accurately dated, as he issues coins with Greek lettering on them.

That would indicate that he came after the Greeks are found in the subcontinent.

There were a number of Saka eras in that period. He is taken to be 72 years after the saka era of 78 CE.

The best the some can claim is that a bunch of inscriptions of priydashini exist at Junagadh, and we can suggest a link to Ashoka. Ashoka may or may not be the Maurya in question.

Really interesting points raised by Chaudhary Sahib. The title assumed by Rudradaman as MahaKshtrapa is also to be taken into note while attempting an answer,

It is fact that Greeks were already there in India in BCE whereas Rudradamana ruled in 2nd Century A.D.

But I do not think that there is any valid reason to doubt the authenticity of Priyadashini that he was somebody else than Asoka Maurya who issued these Jaunagarh Inscriptions in the vicinity of Rudradamana's Inscription.

Thanks
 
Actually one cannot say that he did rule in 150 CE(AD).

All one can say is that he ruled 72 ears after the Saka era. The question is which Saka era?

There is more than one Saka era.

There are crude signs on his coins which some surmize to be Greek in nature. That could be futher examined. It is not cleer to me why he would use Greek signs!

Do you or any one else have access to this artilcle :



"The Persian Emperor Cyrus the Great and the Indian 'Saka' Era,
Journal of the Punjab University Historical Society, Vol. I (1932), pp. 61-73, 123.136.

by Professor Gulshan Rai, Sanathan Dharm College, Lahore"


Ravi Chaudhary
 
Actually one cannot say that he did rule in 150 CE(AD).

All one can say is that he ruled 72 ears after the Saka era. The question is which Saka era?

There is more than one Saka era.

There are crude signs on his coins which some surmize to be Greek in nature. That could be futher examined. It is not cleer to me why he would use Greek signs!

Do you or any one else have access to this artilcle :



"The Persian Emperor Cyrus the Great and the Indian 'Saka' Era,
Journal of the Punjab University Historical Society, Vol. I (1932), pp. 61-73, 123.136.

by Professor Gulshan Rai, Sanathan Dharm College, Lahore"


Ravi Chaudhary

Thanks Chaudhary Sahib for informing about the article.

So far, I have not seen it.

I shall try to locate it in some library.

Perhaps, it would be available in ICHR/ICSSR Library, 35 Ferozeshah Road, Delhi or in Nehru Memorial M and Library, Teen Murti Bhawan, Delhi.

Only after going through it, I will be able to comment on it and also inform you about its full contents.

Regards.
 
Friends,

Reverting back to tracing the antiquity of the Mauryan dynasty of Magadha we take up, once again, Dr. D B Spooner's views, who had restated his main theory in a somewhat modified form in a letter published in The Bengalee (Calcutta) of March 11, 1916 as follows:

"I do not say that either Chandragupta or the Buddha was a Persian in our modern sense. I say they were members of a body of Aryans who came into this country at a date subsequent to the arrival of the first Aryan immigration, when sufficient time had elapsed for the Vedic Hindus and their Iranian cousins to have developed differences of faith."

He goes on to sum up his findings by adding: "When the Linguistic Survey of India shows us, at that time beyond all explanation, that the Aryan languages of North India fall into two groups; when the Prakrit Grammarians assert that the dialect of Balkh was integral part of Magadhi; when the language of these Outer Band Districts display Iranian characteristics; when excavations at Patliputra discloses pottery with Persian fire-altar emblazoned on it, as well as a group of palaces agreeing in minute detail and even in grouping with the complex of Persipolis; when the Prabodhacandrodaya tells us that the Magadha was a country peopled mostly by foreigners; and when the present population of Bihar shows such a number of admittedly Sakdvipin Brahmans, is it so wholly preposterious to suggest that this region must have been settled by an Iranian body in Prehistoric times?"

Comments of the learned scholars are invited on this post.

Thanks and regards.
 
Friends,

The above quoted findings have not gone unattended and have been studied threadbare to receive refutation at the hands of historians.

For views of some of them kindly see, R C Majumdar [Ed.], The Imperial Unity, 1953, Bombay.

Thanks.
 
Of course. I know a little about Spooner's work regarding Maurya and the Persian connection. Good to know his findings were rejected by other scholars. I think one must keep in mind that Orientalism was prevalent among 19th and 20th western scholars and probably clouded Spooners work also. It impacted some of the Indian historians as well later in the 20th century. Thank you for sharing your findings.

Friends,

The above quoted findings have not gone unattended and have been studied threadbare to receive refutation at the hands of historians.

For views of some of them kindly see, R C Majumdar [Ed.], The Imperial Unity, 1953, Bombay.

Thanks.
 
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