How Muslim Votes are going to effect 2014 Elections ?

samarkadian

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Agree or not, they are 180 Millions and in govt. making process, vote counts. Plain and simple. Most parties and off late BJP, supposedly anti-muslim or Pro-Hindu set up, have been lining up strategies for these guy. Below is an article from India Today about Muslim Votes and its effects by Yashwant Deshmukh.

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There are 180 million Muslims in India. Though the Election Commission does not give electoral roll estimates on religion, one can fairly estimate that in 218 Lok Sabha constituencies across India, Muslims have more than 10 per cent vote share. With parties actively wooing the Muslim vote, what impact will it have on General Elections 2014?

# Muslims, by and large, have voted for non-BJP parties, or anti-BJP parties in states where BJP has been an important player for long. In states like UP, where there has been more than one 'secular' option, Muslims have adopted 'tactical voting', where they vote for the best possible candidate who can defeat BJP. The sentiment against Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi among Muslims is even stronger than the mood against BJP. So much so that even L.K. Advani is being portrayed as a secularist, though it was he who pushed BJP down the Ayodhya route.

# The minorities regard BJP as an anti-Muslim party. There is a decisive Muslim vote of more than 20 per cent in 70-odd seats where there will be a counter-polarisation of Hindu votes. This will help BJP in any election divided on communal lines.

# In 150-odd seats across India, Muslims form more than 10 per cent of the vote share. It is enough to become a deciding factor in who they will vote for but not enough to trigger a counter-polarisation towards BJP among Hindu voters.

# These are some seats where non-BJP parties would like to display their 'secular' credentials to get the critical Muslim vote. These are seats in which the margin of victory is less than 10 per cent. Oddly, these seats are packed in states where BJP is a nonentity. For example in Kerala, West Bengal, Andhra Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Odisha and Assam, it is the regional parties that are in direct competition with the Congress. But in order to defeat the Congress, they do need the critical mass of Muslim votes. That's why a majority of regional parties from these states would prefer to oppose Modi and BJP. It puts them on par with Congress.

# However, this does not work in similar fashion in states like Maharashtra, UP, Bihar or Gujarat, where BJP is a stakeholder and is looking to gain further. These states have a large number of seats with a sizeable Muslim presence. These are the states where a clear pro-Muslim stand taken by Congress, SP, BSP, RJD or even JD(U) polarises Muslims in their favour. There is also a counter-polarisation among Hindu voters for BJP.

# The general perception is that wherever any party forms a relationship with BJP, it loses the Muslim vote. This is true to a large but not complete extent. Nitish Kumar and Mayawati have shown clearly that they can get Muslim votes even after hobnobbing with BJP. Narendra Modi's entry into the picture muddies things though.

# Muslim organisations are preparing an extensive advisory to guide Muslim voters across all 543 constituencies. It is doubtful how this will work out in a post-poll scenario as barring the Left Front, almost all major regional parties have associated with BJP at one point of time or another.

# The Muslim community's vote can decide MPs in approximately 220 Lok Sabha seats. These seats should not be confused with those where Muslim candidates win. There are only 30 Muslim MPs, roughly 6 per cent of the total number of MPs. This clearly is much less than their 14 per cent share of India's 1.2 billion population.

# It will eventually boil down to the critical state of Uttar Pradesh. The Muslim vote has dictated the last two elections in the state. In the 2007 Assembly polls, Muslims chose BSP and in 2012 they rallied behind SP, thus helping the state get single party rule. But in the 2009 Lok Sabha elections, they voted tactically to help the best possible candidates from SP, BSP and Congress win against BJP. On the face of it, the 2009 results from UP look like a fractured mandate; but if one looks closely, the only loser in the state was BJP whose share went down to a historic low of 10 seats, polling about 18 per cent votes, while the Congress went up from 9 to 21 seats polling almost the same number of votes. In other words, Uttar Pradesh had given 70 out of 80 Lok Sabha seats to non-BJP parties; and Muslim voters were instrumental in this verdict.


# Out of the 80 Lok Sabha constituencies in Uttar Pradesh, Muslims are over 20 per cent in two dozen-odd seats in the western region including Bareilly, Badaun, Pilibhit, Rampur, Sambhal, Amroha, Meerut, Muzaffarnagar, Saharanpur, Bijnor, Amroha and Moradabad. Little surprise then that the recent communal riots have polarised sentiment in these very areas. In eastern UP, they are decisive in another 12 seats including Azamgarh, Bahraich, Gonda, Sravasti, Varanasi, Domariyaganj, Gonda and Balrampur. If Modi decides to contest from one of these seats, especially Varanasi, the effect of polarisation will be felt not just in western UP but also in western Bihar/ Bhojpur region.

http://in.news.yahoo.com/the-m-calculus--the-power-and-reach-of-the-muslim-vote-134845877.html
 
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No intention to dilute or divert this important topic but I want to know the real definition of "Minority".

180 million Muslims in India and they are counted under Minority .. Can't digest !


 
संयुक्त राष्ट्रसंघ के अनुसार डेढ़ प्रतिशत (1.5%) की आबादी वाले समुदाय को ही अल्पसंख्यक कहा जायेगा और इससे ऊपर सभी के लिए समान नागरिक अधिनियम (Common Civil Code) लगाया जाना चाहिए| अगर भारत में इस नियामक को लगा के देखा जाए तो पारसी, जैन व् बोद्ध धर्मी समुदाय को छोड़ कोई भी समुदाय अल्पसंख्यक होने की इस शर्त के दायरे में नहीं आता।
 
agar United Nations ke parameter ko naa maan ke jo is thread mein discuss kiya ja raha hai uske hisaab se bhi chalo to western U.P. recently riots affected belt pe najar daal ke dekho:

Western U.P. mein abhi-abhi jahaan fresh riots hue hain, us saari belt mein muslims 45 to 60% hain, jabki akele jats kaho to 20 to 25% hi hain......aur agar over all Hindu ki % dekho to Hindus in total bhi is belt mein minority mein hain


I think ab time aa gaya hai ki minority ki definition, MP seats ke according define ki jaaye....aur jo tum baat kar rahe ho uske hisaab se dekho to Muzaffarnagar jaise area jahaan ye 45 to 60% hain, wahaan bhala muslims kaahe ki minority hue....balki wahaan to Jats hi minor hain......

look at the % terms, please
 
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I think ab time aa gaya hai ki minority ki definition, MP seats ke according define ki jaaye....aur jo tum baat kar rahe ho uske hisaab se dekho to Muzaffarnagar jaise area jahaan ye 45 to 60% hain, wahaan bhala muslims kaahe ki minority hue....balki wahaan to Jats hi minor hain......

True and very very valid point
 
I think ab time aa gaya hai ki minority ki definition, MP seats ke according define ki jaaye....aur jo tum baat kar rahe ho uske hisaab se dekho to Muzaffarnagar jaise area jahaan ye 45 to 60% hain, wahaan bhala muslims kaahe ki minority hue....balki wahaan to Jats hi minor hain......

It will be extremely tedious to have such bifurcations in place. Term "Minority" is being twisted to suit the political tastes in India.
 
Muslims are also divided more or less like Hindus. Regional issues, personal benefits dominate not "JUST" religion. Very few people care about general issues like corruption etc.
 
संयुक्त राष्ट्रसंघ के अनुसार डेढ़ प्रतिशत (1.5%) की आबादी वाले समुदाय को ही अल्पसंख्यक कहा जायेगा और इससे ऊपर सभी के लिए समान नागरिक अधिनियम (Common Civil Code) लगाया जाना चाहिए| अगर भारत में इस नियामक को लगा के देखा जाए तो पारसी, जैन व् बोद्ध धर्मी समुदाय को छोड़ कोई भी समुदाय अल्पसंख्यक होने की इस शर्त के दायरे में नहीं आता।

Defining India’s minorities

http://www.hindu.com/2007/07/14/stories/2007071461651500.htm

The Court has set out the principle that minority status should be determined in relation to the population of the State and not to India as a whole. It ruled that as the reorganisation of the States in India had been effected on linguistic lines, for the purpose of determining a minority, the unit would be the State and not the whole of India.
 
agar United Nations ke parameter ko naa maan ke jo is thread mein discuss kiya ja raha hai uske hisaab se bhi chalo to western U.P. recently riots affected belt pe najar daal ke dekho:

Western U.P. mein abhi-abhi jahaan fresh riots hue hain, us saari belt mein muslims 45 to 60% hain, jabki akele jats kaho to 20 to 25% hi hain......aur agar over all Hindu ki % dekho to Hindus in total bhi is belt mein minority mein hain


I think ab time aa gaya hai ki minority ki definition, MP seats ke according define ki jaaye....aur jo tum baat kar rahe ho uske hisaab se dekho to Muzaffarnagar jaise area jahaan ye 45 to 60% hain, wahaan bhala muslims kaahe ki minority hue....balki wahaan to Jats hi minor hain......

To West UP banane se Muslims minorities mei nahi honge. To minority appeasment bhi nahi hogi. Aur better administration bhi ho sakta hai. Kyonki smaller states(based upon population) are better governed. Proven so far.
 
Muslims are also divided more or less like Hindus. Regional issues, personal benefits dominate not "JUST" religion. Very few people care about general issues like corruption etc.

If one wants to understand how Muslims are divided, just look across the border in Pakistan where they are killing each other on hourly basis. Massacre is going on in Syria and Egypt. Make few cities in India 100% Muslim and then see what happens. Just leave them alone and they will start killing each other.

RK^2
 
It will be extremely tedious to have such bifurcations in place. Term "Minority" is being twisted to suit the political tastes in India.
Minority, Securalism, Reservation are primarly the roots of all evils in India. We need to redefine these to bring things in place.
 
Minority, Securalism, Reservation are primarly the roots of all evils in India. We need to redefine these to bring things in place.

How about 180 Millions votes ? Do you think Congress/BJP/SP or anyone is less smarter than you when they bring such gimmicks or policies.?


Lets see it the way it is. 180 Millions Votes and there effects.
 
Samar,

Yashwant Deshmukh has brilliantly summarized how and what muslims votes can do to the coming LS polls. In present situation when we say muslim votes, there are many players at state and center level who try to woe muslim votes one way or the other. Somewhere muslims are puzzled and divided over whom to vote for. As they have realized that damage is always bilateral, they have realized that they are victimized too. Not all but many muslims organization have given hint that they are not averse to BJP or say BJP honcho Narendra Modi. Till now muslim vote polarization was seen, but in this election we will see a change.
 
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