You mean one who can not blindly follow Modi is neither Hindu not Nationalist?
Then my friend most of the India is non hindu for voting UPA back in power twice
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How Muslim Votes are going to effect 2014 Elections ?
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Then my friend most of the India is non hindu for voting UPA back in power twice
You mean one who can not blindly follow Modi is neither Hindu not Nationalist?
Then my friend most of the India is non hindu for voting UPA back in power twice
No. Those are fake Hindus who say that Hindu instigated muzzafarnagar riots. There is no question of NDA or UPA. The fake Hindu is an apologist of Islam & appeasement policies.
No. Those are fake Hindus who say that Hindu instigated muzzafarnagar riots. There is no question of NDA or UPA. The fake Hindu is an apologist of Islam & appeasement policies.
You and neither the RSS can define a real or fake Hindu. Among all the major world religions, Hinduism is perhaps the religion most open to interpretation of the individual and community.
Nobody says Hindus instigated, BJP added fuel to fire and these are 2 different things
By the way Muzzafarnagar was a Jat battle, not Hindu
By the way Muzzafarnagar was a Jat battle, not Hindu
No. Those are fake Hindus who say that Hindu instigated muzzafarnagar riots. There is no question of NDA or UPA. The fake Hindu is an apologist of Islam & appeasement policies.
You and neither the RSS can define a real or fake Hindu. Among all the major world religions, Hinduism is perhaps the religion most open to interpretation of the individual and community.
Let us understand ur interpretation first.
Nobody says Hindus instigated, BJP added fuel to fire and these are 2 different things
By the way Muzzafarnagar was a Jat battle, not Hindu
So Jats instigated riots ? BJP added fuel to fire not the murder of Jat boys & one sided action of administration ?
I think you need a good filter to synthesize the information shared, try not to be journalistic and make everything a sensation. I nowhere said Jats instigated. Jats were a victim, BJP instigated by making them a victim, adding fuel to fire.
Dont take this as a personal attack but a suggestion, please take information shared in the right spirit, not according to your taste.
Dont take this as a personal attack but a suggestion, please take information shared in the right spirit, not according to your taste.
So Jats instigated riots ? BJP added fuel to fire not the murder of Jat boys & one sided action of administration ?
I think you need a good filter to synthesize the information shared, try not to be journalistic and make everything a sensation. I nowhere said Jats instigated. Jats were a victim, BJP instigated by making them a victim, adding fuel to fire.
Dont take this as a personal attack but a suggestion, please take information shared in the right spirit, not according to your taste.
I don't think you shared any information at all but doing your work of last busy days. This got failed in assembly elections & we will fail it again within 2 months.
You absurdness will not be tolerated at all. Jats were beaten & harassed by muslims & u don't utter a word against them instead you just keep blabbering BJP BJP BJP. Don't want to go to the root cause, reasons and perpetrators. Avoid Jat girls stalking & killing of youths by muslims. Shame for community.
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I don't think you shared any information at all but doing your work of last busy days. This got failed in assembly elections & we will fail it again within 2 months.
You absurdness will not be tolerated at all. Jats were beaten & harassed by muslims & u don't utter a word against them instead you just keep blabbering BJP BJP BJP. Don't want to go to the root cause, reasons and perpetrators. Avoid Jat girls stalking & killing of youths by muslims. Shame for community.
I said Jats were a victim, isnt that obvious by who? Dont tolerate my absurdness just because it is not as extreme as yours, and sees things in black and white including those who are marginalizing my community by exposing them to riots.
This is the problem, I come here to have a discussion with an open mind and you come here to win.
Cheers!
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narenderkharb
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There is no disagreement when you say that other appeases at its extreme level. With Hindu majority in country what prompted BJP top brass to do that at this time? Is it not going to discourage Hindus and its supporters when he does that.? We all know how Advani was taken down for Jinnah mazar.
Further is Rajnath not playing a long game in case NDA allies dont agree for Modi as its leader, then he can show himself secular and can become a choice in NDA?
This infact is proving the subject of this thread quite right. There is no need to rebut or further rebut for me. I am quite sure when I am quite sure.
Very true.
Potential votebank for AAP
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ahead-of-polls-muslims-warm-up-to-aap/article5774530.ece
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ahead-of-polls-muslims-warm-up-to-aap/article5774530.ece
manojmalik007
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ye aap aale jadde to ek chande aage se sabtai. innai bera sai koonsi rag kad dabni sai. dilli mai yohe tai kerya tha. ibb chugarde kai nyu he karan laag re sai.Potential votebank for AAP
http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ahead-of-polls-muslims-warm-up-to-aap/article5774530.ece
You mean one who can not blindly follow Modi is neither Hindu not Nationalist?
Then my friend most of the India is non hindu for voting UPA back in power twice
Where is name Modi mentioned ? Do you want to say Modi talk about Hindu in his speeches ? Please provide an answer with some facts.
I don't understand what is the problem in saying if you don't practice, like or regard Hindusim. Why so much fuss about that? In another thread one of the gentleman is talking about not being Hindu openly & talking about a Jat religion. I do not find any problem in that. Please be clear.
Lets convince moderators first to make this website for Jats not specific for Hindu jats & then convince Union of India to not put Jats under Hindu marriage act.
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I said Jats were a victim, isnt that obvious by who? Dont tolerate my absurdness just because it is not as extreme as yours, and sees things in black and white including those who are marginalizing my community by exposing them to riots.
This is the problem, I come here to have a discussion with an open mind and you come here to win.
Cheers!
Leave politics aside for a moment & tell what are your views about muslims of Muzzafarnagar & their acts against Jats ? Who was responsible for that ?
samarkadian
Active member
Has the same thing said by Khap, media would have been all agog. I am sure now they wont say a word except the same as thread lines. However they are going to effect in Varanasi as well. Lets see.
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https://in.news.yahoo.com/vote-for-congress--shahi-imam-s-mandate-for-muslims-101651478.html
Syed Ahmed Bukhari, the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, on Friday appealed to Muslims across India to vote for the Congress in the upcoming Lok Sabha polls, saying he was hopeful that the Sonia Gandhi-led party will fulfill its promises.
At a press conference in Delhi, he said that the Samajwadi Party and the Bahujan Samaj Party had betrayed Muslims and there was no question of supporting them.
When asked why after having slammed the Congress earlier, he was appealing for support to the party, he dismissed the question saying it was more important to keep communal forces out of power.
He said that Muslims need to ensure that the secular vote is not divided.
"We have be united and fight against forces of communalism. Votes for BSP and SP will be wasted, since both are unreliable,” he added.
"I urge you to vote for the Congress. The TMC's role will be very important in formation of government in Delhi. I urge Muslims in West Bengal to support Mamata Banerjee’s Trinamool Congress.”
The Imam also said that communalism is a bigger threat than corruption and thus it was better to vote for the Congress.
Congress president Sonia Gandhi had met the Shahi Imam a couple of days ago, reportedly to ensure that the Muslims vote for the Congress in the upcoming Lok Sabha polls.
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https://in.news.yahoo.com/vote-for-congress--shahi-imam-s-mandate-for-muslims-101651478.html
Syed Ahmed Bukhari, the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, on Friday appealed to Muslims across India to vote for the Congress in the upcoming Lok Sabha polls, saying he was hopeful that the Sonia Gandhi-led party will fulfill its promises.
At a press conference in Delhi, he said that the Samajwadi Party and the Bahujan Samaj Party had betrayed Muslims and there was no question of supporting them.
When asked why after having slammed the Congress earlier, he was appealing for support to the party, he dismissed the question saying it was more important to keep communal forces out of power.
He said that Muslims need to ensure that the secular vote is not divided.
"We have be united and fight against forces of communalism. Votes for BSP and SP will be wasted, since both are unreliable,” he added.
"I urge you to vote for the Congress. The TMC's role will be very important in formation of government in Delhi. I urge Muslims in West Bengal to support Mamata Banerjee’s Trinamool Congress.”
The Imam also said that communalism is a bigger threat than corruption and thus it was better to vote for the Congress.
Congress president Sonia Gandhi had met the Shahi Imam a couple of days ago, reportedly to ensure that the Muslims vote for the Congress in the upcoming Lok Sabha polls.
All political parties are after muslim votes, it seems non-muslims are in minority here. Election is going to be sickularism vs development. Make a smart choice.Has the same thing said by Khap, media would have been all agog. I am sure now they wont say a word except the same as thread lines. However they are going to effect in Varanasi as well. Lets see.
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https://in.news.yahoo.com/vote-for-congress--shahi-imam-s-mandate-for-muslims-101651478.html
Syed Ahmed Bukhari, the Shahi Imam of Jama Masjid, on Friday appealed to Muslims across India to vote for the Congress in the upcoming Lok Sabha polls, saying he was hopeful that the Sonia Gandhi-led party will fulfill its promises.
At a press conference in Delhi, he said that the Samajwadi Party and the Bahujan Samaj Party had betrayed Muslims and there was no question of supporting them.
When asked why after having slammed the Congress earlier, he was appealing for support to the party, he dismissed the question saying it was more important to keep communal forces out of power.
He said that Muslims need to ensure that the secular vote is not divided.
"We have be united and fight against forces of communalism. Votes for BSP and SP will be wasted, since both are unreliable,” he added.
"I urge you to vote for the Congress. The TMC's role will be very important in formation of government in Delhi. I urge Muslims in West Bengal to support Mamata Banerjee’s Trinamool Congress.”
The Imam also said that communalism is a bigger threat than corruption and thus it was better to vote for the Congress.
Congress president Sonia Gandhi had met the Shahi Imam a couple of days ago, reportedly to ensure that the Muslims vote for the Congress in the upcoming Lok Sabha polls.
All political parties are after muslim votes, it seems non-muslims are in minority here. Election is going to be sickularism vs development. Make a smart choice.
Clever analysis to suit one's own view. I assume you will count manifestos talking about building Ram Mandir as going after Muslim votes too, right? Even after seeing years of Hindu right wing organizations pandering for Hindu votes, why does the same for Muslim votes cause a problem?
This election will be about emotions, instead of logic.
Thanks!!! There is no addition to this, this is in place from day 1, and if you could read the manifesto, it is said all things to be done under the purview of constitution.Clever analysis to suit one's own view. I assume you will count manifestos talking about building Ram Mandir as going after Muslim votes too, right? Even after seeing years of Hindu right wing organizations pandering for Hindu votes, why does the same for Muslim votes cause a problem?
This election will be about emotions, instead of logic.
Most divided votes, otherwise these M appeasement would not have been in place.
Now problem is double standard over it, for every thing secualism is not the answer.
Thanks!!! There is no addition to this, this is in place from day 1, and if you could read the manifesto, it is said all things to be done under the purview of constitution.
Most divided votes, otherwise these M appeasement would not have been in place.
Now problem is double standard over it, for every thing secualism is not the answer.
You can say Hindu appeasement is a response to Muslim appeasement but some would argue to the contrary. There's no way to say what came first. And we see vote bank politics of all religions, castes and communities. Bashing one party or community because of it is either being blind or hypocritical.
Secularism has been proven worldwide as the best policy to manage diverse religions. What you are bashing in the name of secularism is a poor version of it practiced by some parties in India.
It is still missing or rather practised by a single party and I back that. You decide what came first, doesn't matter to me what matters is vast spread secularism in all parties except one. One party? What about AAP on this?You can say Hindu appeasement is a response to Muslim appeasement but some would argue to the contrary. There's no way to say what came first. And we see vote bank politics of all religions, castes and communities. Bashing one party or community because of it is either being blind or hypocritical.
Secularism has been proven worldwide as the best policy to manage diverse religions. What you are bashing in the name of secularism is a poor version of it practiced by some parties in India.
Worldwise secularism is quiet different, there is means to respect all, here it means to appease few.
When you say some parties, you shouldn't hesitate in naming them.