I am a jat first...

[narenderkharb]

We all know its a part of game.

But elections in five states are still not so near.

Political parties have really gone hightech in propoganda.

 

[prashantacmet]

oooooooo AALOO KE PARAMTOO..heheheeeee hahaaaaaaa, thaamne yu ke mahabharat chedd diya is JATLAND pe.. Thaam dono assa karo aapne aapne GAAM mein jaao ar 5-10 din kissi TAU ka HOKKA bhar ke aaoo .Tharri to budhhi pe matti padd re. jo aapas main hi ladan laag re ... JAAO dono aapne aapne GAAM mein jibbhe thaamne koi TAU akal dega udde.....

 

[sansanwalamit]

another post going haywire

Just to bring it back to the topic, I consider myself a Hindu Jat. I was born into a Hindu Jat family, we (me and my family) are Jats by our caste (a Hindu concept) and culture, and we adhere to Hindu religion.
After my birth I am sure there was a Brahmin who did my naamkaran (Hindu baptism). All the Jat weddings (not just in my family or village but everywhere) I attended were Hindu ceremonies and had Brahmins who fulfilled all the rituals. Whenever I encountered a death of a loved one or a Jat known to me, they had their last rights done in Hindu way including a Brahmin.
Every year in the month of Shraadh we make offerings to Brahmins and a Brahmin is always needed for Pind daan to my ancestors, we have always believed in Paropkar and donate whole heartedly to Mandirs and Goshalas. Infact one of the main Hindu Jat festival of Govardhan cannnot be completed without a Brahmin. And I hope I dont need to give more examples to put myself across.
Honestly, God forbid if one day I happen to convert myself from Hinduism, say to Christianity, Judaism or Islam I dont think I will have any place for Jat in my identity. To me caste is a strict Hindu principal and concept, unfortunately it has landed my religion in dark shadows as well, but I still believe in it and hope for situation to change one day.
So here it is once again, I am a Hindu who is from a Jat family. I could have been a Brahmin, Baniya, Rajput, Shudra, but I still would have been Hindu. But if I was not a Hindu then I would have never been a Jat or any of those, to me Hinduism is the only religion that sustains castism.
And I am as proud to be a Hindu as I am of being a Jat.

Thanks,

 

[atul.jhajhria]

Just to bring it back to the topic, I consider myself a Hindu Jat. I was born into a Hindu Jat family, we (me and my family) are Jats by our caste (a Hindu concept) and culture, and we adhere to Hindu religion.
After my birth I am sure there was a Brahmin who did my naamkaran (Hindu baptism). All the Jat weddings (not just in my family or village but everywhere) I attended were Hindu ceremonies and had Brahmins who fulfilled all the rituals. Whenever I encountered a death of a loved one or a Jat known to me, they had their last rights done in Hindu way including a Brahmin.
Every year in the month of Shraadh we make offerings to Brahmins and a Brahmin is always needed for Pind daan to my ancestors, we have always believed in Paropkar and donate whole heartedly to Mandirs and Goshalas. Infact one of the main Hindu Jat festival of Govardhan cannnot be completed without a Brahmin. And I hope I dont need to give more examples to put myself across.
Honestly, God forbid if one day I happen to convert myself from Hinduism, say to Christianity, Judaism or Islam I dont think I will have any place for Jat in my identity. To me caste is a strict Hindu principal and concept, unfortunately it has landed my religion in dark shadows as well, but I still believe in it and hope for situation to change one day.
So here it is once again, I am a Hindu who is from a Jat family. I could have been a Brahmin, Baniya, Rajput, Shudra, but I still would have been Hindu. But if I was not a Hindu then I would have never been a Jat or any of those, to me Hinduism is the only religion that sustains castism.
And I am as proud to be a Hindu as I am of being a Jat.

Thanks,

Thanks for your views and i respect your views!

There seems to be two main idology here on jatland!

One more towards Hinduism and other towards Jats!


I will make new forum in may(i am busy in april) for hardcore jats where every jat of every religion with support from forum members will be allowed.

The problem is that i as a jat from jhunjhunun, hate Brahmins and Rajputs specially.

Reason is in Rajasthan Jats were not allowed to drink water from same well as Brahmin and Rajputs!

We were treated badly!

We had a fight with Rajputs and Brahmins and we won!!

My father never went to temple!

I can understand why he didn't!

Its very tough to worship when you are humilated!

I am no slave of religion!

Hinduism to me is just a religion and Hindu people did their best to abuse us!

To me every Brahmin, Rajput and Muslim(except muslim jat) is different person!

I know that Jats of Haryana have been more powerful and hence never faced that situation like Rajsthani JAT and same is true for UP Jats.

I have officially stopped practicing Hinduism!


Every time someone writes post like above, he disrepect our feelings!

Or may be i should say our priorities, our goal has changed!

You are haryanvi jat and we are Rajasthani Jat!

Its time for us to Depart this Hindu/Brahmin land!

 

[prashantacmet]

dear atul can u explain it more clearly???
what do u want to say about UP JATS...??

I know that Jats of Haryana have been more powerful and hence never faced that situation like Rajsthani JAT and same is true for UP Jats.

 

[atul.jhajhria]

dear atul can u explain it more clearly???
what do u want to say about UP JATS...??

I know that Jats of Haryana have been more powerful and hence never faced that situation like Rajsthani JAT and same is true for UP Jats.

I mean UP jats are also powerful. Thats my impression, i never came in contact with them in real life!


Also We rajasthani Jats have different language! I frankly dont understand Haryanvi very well and it burn my eyes and brain to understand it!

Someone already asked me why to create this division!

My Response:

Chautala is not considered leader of jats in Rajasthan, why??

Same is true here!

People of Haryana, UP seems to have very little less knowledge about Rajasthani people!

On Jatland the leadership is effective only for Haryana!

We have different priroties and different aim!

We can do job of uniting jats in better way!

 

[sansanwalamit]

Thanks for your views and i respect your views!

There seems to be two main idology here on jatland!

One more towards Hinduism and other towards Jats!


I will make new forum in may(i am busy in april) for hardcore jats where every jat of every religion with support from forum members will be allowed.

The problem is that i as a jat from jhunjhunun, hate Brahmins and Rajputs specially.

Reason is in Rajasthan Jats were not allowed to drink water from same well as Brahmin and Rajputs!

We were treated badly!

We had a fight with Rajputs and Brahmins and we won!!

My father never went to temple!

I can understand why he didn't!

Its very tough to worship when you are humilated!

I am no slave of religion!

Hinduism to me is just a religion and Hindu people did their best to abuse us!

To me every Brahmin, Rajput and Muslim(except muslim jat) is different person!

I know that Jats of Haryana have been more powerful and hence never faced that situation like Rajsthani JAT and same is true for UP Jats.

I have officially stopped practicing Hinduism!


Every time someone writes post like above, he disrepect our feelings!

Or may be i should say our priorities, our goal has changed!

You are haryanvi jat and we are Rajasthani Jat!

Its time for us to Depart this Hindu/Brahmin land!

Dear Atul,

Firstly I am not a Haryanvi Jat but a Delhi Jat. We are such a minority in our own area that most of the times we are tagged along with Haryanvi Jats because of so many similarities. Still we do we have a little different indentity and circumstances.
I can completely understand why you feel this way, I suppose I feel this way because in my village I always witnessed great deal of harmony between Jats and Brahmins. Infact only a villager can tell who is a Brahmin and who is a Jat. Still Brahmins, Baniyas and Jats still never share the same hookah.
It will be foolish for me to talk about Hinduism's pros or cons to you, I respect your feelings. Circumstances do affect our ideas, but if the effect is negative we should alwasy minimise it and prevent it from spreading and when it is positive we should maximise and spread it around.
To me it does not make a difference whether you do or do not consider yourself a Hindu, religion does not change anyone's opinion in my eyes.

Cheers,

Amit

 

[prashantacmet]

Dear atul , there should not any discrimination among JATS due to language. For ur kind information, i want to tell u, the language of UP, Harayana & Rajasthan JATs(residing near Haryana border & most of rajasthani Jats are from this area )is almost similar. I am from UP but there is not even a single word of Harayanvi language which i can not understand.. . Plz donot speak in a different way, we all are brothers here . No one is leader........

 

[atul.jhajhria]

Dear Atul,

Firstly I am not a Haryanvi Jat but a Delhi Jat. We are such a minority in our own area that most of the times we are tagged along with Haryanvi Jats because of so many similarities. Still we do we have a little different indentity and circumstances.
I can completely understand why you feel this way, I suppose I feel this way because in my village I always witnessed great deal of harmony between Jats and Brahmins. Infact only a villager can tell who is a Brahmin and who is a Jat. Still Brahmins, Baniyas and Jats still never share the same hookah.
It will be foolish for me to talk about Hinduism's pros or cons to you, I respect your feelings. Circumstances do affect our ideas, but if the effect is negative we should alwasy minimise it and prevent it from spreading and when it is positive we should maximise and spread it around.
To me it does not make a difference whether you do or do not consider yourself a Hindu, religion does not change anyone's opinion in my eyes.

Cheers,

Amit

Thats true!

I know equation in Haryana and Delhi!

There Brahmins are not as powerful as in Rajasthan!

In Haryana+Delhi Jats have absolute power!!

In Rajasthan it was Jat vs Rajput+Brahmin+Baniya+muslim(sometimes)!

In rajasthan we have 80 lakh Jats atleast!

We had a very brutal fight!

My father went to jail even!

I cant forget that!

Even though i am Hindu too but its only a word to me!

If you people wants to trumpet the good work of Brahmins, you obviously can do but atleast than name the forum Brahimjatland.com

 

[atul.jhajhria]

Dear atul , there should not any discrimination among JATS due to language. For ur kind information, i want to tell u, the language of UP, Harayana & Rajasthan JATs(residing near Haryana border & most of rajasthani Jats are from this area )is almost similar. I am from UP but there is not even a single word of Harayanvi language which i can not understand.. . Plz donot speak in a different way, we all are brothers here . No one is leader........

Ask anyone from Rajasthan!

We have different language! Marwari!

Its very different from Haryanvi!

UP People may have same language as Haryana, we dont!

If you go to Rajsthan you will see yourself!!

I am not cooking anything!


We all are brothers, no doubt!!

But we have different priority!!

We faced different circumstances you different!

we can never fit to your world!! We tried!!

 

[sansanwalamit]

Thats true!

I know equation in Haryana and Delhi!

There Brahmins are not as powerful as in Rajasthan!

In Haryana+Delhi Jats have absolute power!!

In Rajasthan it was Jat vs Rajput+Brahmin+Baniya+muslim(sometimes)!

In rajasthan we have 80 lakh Jats atleast!

We had a very brutal fight!

My father went to jail even!

I cant forget that!

Even though i am Hindu too but its only a word to me!

If you people wants to trumpet the good work of Brahmins, you obviously can do but atleast than name the forum Brahimjatland.com

Come on Atul, now dont disitinguish between us, by calling myself Hindu Jat I am not blowing Brahmin's trumpets. I dont know how and where do you get this opinion. All I can say to cut it short is a much needed quote by Gandhiji, here it goes, please try to understand this and remember this:
"Treating people like enemies makes them so"

Cheers,

 

[scsheorayan]

I have officially stopped practicing Hinduism!

Dear Atul,

You claim to be a jat from Jhunjhunu district. Do you mind revealing your village and how long you have lived there. Jhunjhunu district is right next to Haryana and it comes as a surprise that the language spoken in Haryana is alien to you.

I think Jats in Jhunjhunu district never did any practicing of religion as such but lived there lives in their own way inspite of all Rajputs, Brahmins and Baniyas. Just curios to know how did you practice hinduisim before which you have discontinued. I hope you are not thinking of starting a new religion. Starting a new website is fine and we wish you luck in life.

 

[scsheorayan]

Atul,
Please do Rajasthani jats a favour and start calling yourself a Canadian. The purpose of this website is to bring Jats together and not divide them. In the name of freedom of speech you have painted a lousy picture of Rajasthani Jats which is regrettable. Open up your mind and undo some of the damage which your thoughtless postings have done if you have any respect for your people.

 

[downtoearth]

jama sahi kahi 100 bataan ki ek baat

Atul,
Please do Rajasthani jats a favour and start calling yourself a Canadian. The purpose of this website is to bring Jats together and not divide them. In the name of freedom of speech you have painted a lousy picture of Rajasthani Jats which is regrettable. Open up your mind and undo some of the damage which your thoughtless postings have done if you have any respect for your people.

very well said, uncle ji

 

[ratheetheraist]

katii theek...........

Atul,
Please do Rajasthani jats a favour and start calling yourself a Canadian. The purpose of this website is to bring Jats together and not divide them. In the name of freedom of speech you have painted a lousy picture of Rajasthani Jats which is regrettable. Open up your mind and undo some of the damage which your thoughtless postings have done if you have any respect for your people.

respected uncleji...........manne bhi koshish karii thii........parr kuch na farak paddyaa..........ibb beraa paatya akk iskke aap ke experience ki baatan ka suaa pehlyaan laagna chahiye thaa..........dekhyaa naa nyara e paak ryaa saii aade .............

uff.......hahhaha@uff

 

[prashantacmet]

Sunnn re Bhaiiiiiiii

oooooo ATULeeeeeeeeee I got ur point? why are u writing such stupid things like "there should be a separate forum for RAJASTHANI JATS" The fact is , u want to mess us (Hindu JAAT) with MUSLIMS & SIKH JATS & want to open this site for all. But u are not able to convince the members. So now u have become frustrated & speaking in such a way.. Do one thing . create a new thread with name "there should be a separate forum for Rajasthani JAATS" & check the response from Rajasthani JAATS...
If u convince a single member, it will be a great job for u (Iski koi naa maanne..........)

Then perhaps we(Rajasthani) should make seperate forum for rajasthan's Jat.

Frankly i dont understand Haryanvi language properly.

Also i feel there is racial difference in these two.

Culure is very different too!

what do you say??

 

[vijay]

Divide and rule ???????????????????????

Then perhaps we(Rajasthani) should make seperate forum for rajasthan's Jat.

Frankly i dont understand Haryanvi language properly.

Also i feel there is racial difference in these two.

Culure is very different too!

what do you say??

Atul,

First Muslim Jats, than Sikh Jats and now Rajasthani Jats but we are still undivided and now what else you have in your mind ??????????

I think you just came here to divide us.

Forget it man. GOT IT.

 

[anjeeladahiya]

ATUL

tanne itnee ae chinta laag rahee se the tu kyunaa unki website kaa member banjaata.is jatland ne te bakkas de bhai.na te hum jatland aalle na teen mein ravenge naa terah mein.

 

[crsnadar]

Arre Bhai log aisa pata nahi kitna khoon garam hai hum jaat bhaiyon ka yaar ke koi thread shuru hoti hai kuchh good cause ke liye aur khatam hoti hai do chaar mambron ke beech jhadap ke baad,

jaise ki
...........tujhe ghani chinta ho ri ke.
...........tu hi aaya bada suthra banke.
...........tu hi sudhaarega iss samaj ne.
...........tujhe hi ghana maalum dhikkhe.
...........don't blame me.
...........look yourself.
...........jyada chinta ho ri to khud hi site bana le etc.
................................& so on, a wide list of such answers.


coooooool bhai coool
Thande ka tadka lagao yaar.
Bhai thoda cool ho jaya karo.
Ek to waise hi duniya me hajaar tarah ki tension hai oopar se hum is tarah se discuss karne lage to ho gaya discussion aur chal gayi website.

Bhai maalum hai JATon ka khoon garam hota hai par aisi bhi kya garmi ki aapas me hi jhagdo bhaiyon.

Ab mujhe lag raha hai mujhe hi bade bade darawane answer milne waale hai.
Sachh kah raha hu.
Kai bhaiyon ki ungliya tadap rahi hongi kuchh wisa hi answer dene ke liye.

BHAI EK BAAT BATAUN, MUJHE AAJKAL APNI IS WEBSITE PE REPLY KARTE HUE BHI DAR SA LAGNE LAGA HAI, PATA NAHI ISBAAR KAUN GUSSA HO JAAYE.


Rahi baat Sikh Jatts ki to maine jaisa paaya hai wo ye hai ki Hindu Jat to mixup hona chaahte hai par Sikh Jatt Hindu JAT ke saath mixup nahi hona chahte.
reason is clear they r financially litle ahead of us & after 1984 riots they have some dought about the friendship of a Hindu JAT.

But they r much closer to Hindu Jat in terms of FACE Structure, Habbits, Physical Structure & Attitude.

So we should make own Well Developed as compared to them.

 

[crsnadar]

Bahi log,
Koi UP ke JATon ki bhi sudhh lene waala hai yaa JAT bas HARYANA aur RAJASTHAN me hi hai.
Arre bhaiyon aisa kyo kar rahe ho, kuchh to khayal rakho hamaara bhi.
UP me to its JAT vs (Rajput, Brahman, Yadav, Lodhi, gurjar, Kurmi, Tyagi, Jatav aur Chamar).
In sabke hote hue bhi Paschimi Uttar Pradesh me JATon ne ek majboot pahchaan banayi hai.

Waise aapko bata du bahiyo,
during my college time to till date most of my friends knows my name as
RAHUL JAT only.
they dont call me RAHUL NADAR or RAHUL SINGH.
I told them so many times that this is not my surname but is caste but they love to call me JAT.
So I also started to love it.

I enjoyed the JATRAS during my college time in Allahabad being the only JAT there in the Hostel.
In college there were 3 JATs as of Total of all the batches & branches.

Koi bada college nahi tha bas ek private Engineering college tha (matlab hai bhi) par college to college hota hai & I love my college.

so its true

JAT is a JAT first

Bye

Yours
RAHUL NADAR