Is it a good sign for Haryana Politics? Sampat's Speech

[anilsangwan]

गौरव भाई राम राम !

यहाँ जाटलैंड पे बहुत से मुद्दे शुरू तो होते हैं किसी और मकसद से लेकिन वक़्त क साथ साथ लोग उनको अपने हिसाब से मोड़ देते हैं. काफी बार ये सिर्फ अनजाने में होता है लेकिन बहुत बार लोग अपने स्वार्थ के लिए ऐसा करते हैं.
इस थ्रेड में भी वही हुआ. शुरात हुई थी प्रोफ साहाब के ब्यान से जिसमें उन्होने इनेलो के "आत्म-मंथन" की बात की थी. और बात बिलकुल सही थी .... जब तक पार्टी को अपनी कमियों का पता नहीं होगा... उसमें सुधार कैसे होगा... लेकिन आखिर में कुछ लोगो ने इसे अपने रिश्तेदारों की "डिग्री" और "ओहदे" प्रर्दशित करने के लिए इस्तेमाल करना शुरू कर दिया. अपने आप को और अपने रिश्तेदारों को "बड़ा" और "स्वच्छ छवि" का आदमी सिद्ध करने के लिए लोग आधारहीन आरोप लगा देते हैं .......दूसरों को छोटा दिखा कर अपने आप को बड़ा बनाना शायद इनको सब से आसान तरीका लगता है|. आलोचना करना बहुत आसान है लेकिन आलोचकों को यह भी सोचना चाहिए की जिसकी आलोचना कर रहे हो उसके लिए आप के पास तथ्य हैं भी या नहीं | फिर बाद में "नकली मेम्बेर्स" बन कर लिखते हैं...

हर अच्छे इंसान को विरोध का सामना करना पड़ता ही है ... यहाँ भी वही हो रहा है..... हम समझ सकते हैं की अनर्गल बातों और दुष्प्रचार का कितना दुःख होता है लेकिन आप को ऐसे लोगों की बातों से दुखी नहीं होना है | बहुत से ऐसे मनघडंत आरोप होंगे जो आपको अपने पथ से भटकने को मजबूर करेंगे...



आप के सामने बहुत बड़ी "चुनौती" और "अवसर" दोनों हैं. चुनौती है अपने आप को ऐसे आरोपों के बीच संतुलित रखना और अपने कर्तव्य की तरफ बिना विचलित हुए बढ़ते जाना. और "अवसर" है आप के पास उस "धरोहर" को आगे बढ़ाना जिसकी हमेशा ... हमेशा से तारीफ होती है है...यहाँ तक की राजनितिक विरोधी भी जिन नीतियों और कार्येशैली की प्रशंशा करते रहे हैं.. वो धरोहर जो अनमोल है... जो दुर्लभ्प्राय: और जिसको जीवित रखने के लिए प्रोफ साब ने साहसिक निर्णय लिया है ... हमारी शुभकामनाएं हमेशा आपके साथ हैं और हमेशा रहेंगी |

there have been a lot of talks and discussions about my father on jatland. Truly, it wasn’t easy to quit inld, founded by ch. Devi lalji and flourished by my father in every possible way. Some said that we left inld for self-interests, and some spoke about “cheap personal gain”. Definitely criticism hurts, but it hurts more when people talk without facts.

A respectable member said that once ch. Devi lalji called my father "sampati singh". With the highest of respect, i ask the member to please produce or highlight the fact when and where ch. Devi lalji said that. It’s a public forum, therefore, a healthy but a criticism accompanied with a fact must be mandatory, not as a compulsion but with self-conscious. Ch. Devi lalji remains “dadaji” for me and would always be one, as he was the one responsible for making my father enter public life, and for what we are today.


We didn’t leave because congress is expected to come to power. We could have done that in 1982, 1991, 1996, or 2005. There were many many occasions if we wanted to go for “cheap personal interest”. We didn’t leave the party as we pledged our life to ch. Devi lalji, and we might not have ever if he was alive. After a number of humiliations, we had to leave the party. Reasons are endless; both public, and personal.

Today, chautlas say “sampat singh ko hum vidhaan sabha mein nahin, samsham mein bhejenge”. You might be able to imagine what it feels to me when they say such words. After such a loyalty we are getting such a criticism.

My father is of the view that he has achieved more than he dreamt. Upcoming vidhaan sabha election would be his last.

Since chautalas and bhajan lal would compromise against my father, and would put up a united show in the election, therefore our family is going through the worse.



I will make sure that my father goes to vidhan sabha and not “samshan”.

I, kindly request all the member that before you put up anything on a community forum, please verify the facts with the dates and press reporting.

Kindest regards!!

 

[jitendershooda]

i dont appreciate this one bit. what'll be the credibility of the "evident list "(whatevrer u meant by it)????????? i hope u do understand this will lead to chaos n lot of mudslinging. with wht u've written u seem to be an opportunist. huh! it's sad to read wht ur so much insisting on.

I, kindly request all the member that before you put up anything on a community forum, please verify the facts with the dates and press reporting.

Kindest Regards!!

Hope you have got your answer about evident list in Gaurav's reply.
Also you must have seen the unrequired mudslinging on this thread itself by senior members even. So what's left. My view was to get more and more issues out to public being more close people involved. Why to beat the bushes why not come up with clear cut points and answer the allegations put by others.

It is clear that by the language they are using and points they are putting one will definatly judge who is who.

 

[jitendershooda]

Upcoming Vidhaan Sabha election would be his last.

When I started this thread and learnt of 65 reasons. I thought that this might be for good of INLD. When such a senior party leader is putting up things upfront then they must take some steps. I was very hopefull and for that matter willing that Sampat Singh shouldnt leave the party. Atleast there must be some leader who have clean image (I never heard of any scam in his name till now .... heard means in public even from opponents). Also I found him the soft/intellectual face of party (though some may claim that he is not a professor, it doesnt mean a lot to me). I have seen his son Gaurav posting few posts here and you can easily guess how this man has raise his kids. I dont have any kind of family or personal relations with this family and never met any of them. But only due to all this a sense of respect developed.

With this comment of gaurav I am loosing hope for haryana politics again. It means that a simple, sobre person without much tikdambaji cant survive. I can only request such people to carry on.

Wish to share one incident:
Bhupinder Hooda Ji ek baar elections mein daure pe they. He came to our village too. Dadaji was alive then. Bhupinder ji, ne pairan ke hath lagaya. Bolle Tau vote deni se ibke. Dada bole tun mhara bhateeja se par mohr hath pe nahi mari jagi, vote gerunga Debi Lal ki.

Er eeb dekho ke haal hoya uss party ka. Where that goodwill has lost. And now their leaders wish to bring it back by sending their oldies in shamshan. Its a pitty.

 

[sunnytewatia]

I see some truth in red lines here that is why mr chiller has not come back on this thread till now. i feel some other members etc r writing on his behalf (as highligted by other members above). sach se itna chehra chupana padta hai in neta logon ko.

dr ragubir kadian ji ne chautala ko chhod kar pahli se suru kiya tha aur aaj kaha pahuch gaye to sampat singh ji bhi suru kar lenge kya dikkat hain isme .....
rahi baat pani barne ki to bhai sab kite n kite paani bare s ....apne ya dr sahab ne kise k paani bara hoga tabhi to apki company ko is sarkar me sabse pahle license milta hain ..... is sarkar ke aane se pahle apki company ka kya wajood tha aur ab kya hain .....
bhaiyo rahne do is hamam me sare nange hain kyu kise ka raag chhedo so... ..

 

[sunnytewatia]

Deshwal uncleji, very balanced post.

i too agree.

 

[sunnytewatia]

I totally support the malik sahab.once the devilal has also said that sampat is "sampati singh" than o.p chautala supported the sampat singh.sampat singh ne pith mein chura ghopa hai.devilal jab bimar the ek baar bhi milne nahi gaye.ye sara onrecord hai.sampat ji ko chautala pariwar ne farsh se arsh pe la diya.phir bhi sampat ji ne ahsaanframossi ki hai.congress ko bhi sochna chayie jis party ne usko itna kuch diya uske saath usne dagga baaji ki wo hamko kya dega.

people lkike u might have always voted for bhajanlal ..hai na? go and find some bishnoi portal instead of jatland.

 

[raka]

kyu rolla kar rahe so baap bete bhi nyaare ho s ye nyaare ho gaye to k pahad tuunt gya , bera n kitne sampat gaye aaye eb tahi yo k koi naya kaam hoya s .ya party chautalas ta chaal ri s na k sampat singh ta , sampat singh jise jaange tabhi naye samapt singh ka number padega.......ya janta 91 me bhi thi jo kahya karti ak chautala gunda s arr pher 99/2000 me dubara sarkar banai yeh log uske pachhe lagge to bhai ya janta s iska nahi bera kittod muuh tha le ....77 me yahe janta thi jisne congress jamma saaf kar di thi aur fer 3 saal baad ulti congress gailya ho li ......ya janta kaal ne mayawati bhajan jisya ka langad bhi pakad sake s is janta ka nahi bera kimme bhi ....yeh public hain babu kyu khaamkha jhaad bajao so ....

 

[singhabhimanyu]

Pahalwaan bhai, dont u think we should curb it?

Hope you have got your answer about evident list in Gaurav's reply.
Also you must have seen the unrequired mudslinging on this thread itself by senior members even. So what's left. My view was to get more and more issues out to public being more close people involved. Why to beat the bushes why not come up with clear cut points and answer the allegations put by others.

It is clear that by the language they are using and points they are putting one will definatly judge who is who.

 

[sumitdahiya123]

people lkike u might have always voted for bhajanlal ..hai na? go and find some bishnoi portal instead of jatland.

bhai sunny tera ho raha hai dimag khraab.sachi baat tane kadvi lage.FOR UR KIND IMFORMATION WE HAVE NEVER VOTED FOR BHAJAN LAL.

 

[vivekmalik05]

There have been a lot of talks and discussions about my father on Jatland. Truly, it wasn’t easy to quit INLD, founded by Ch. Devi Lalji and flourished by my father in every possible way. Some said that we left INLD for self-interests, and some spoke about “cheap personal gain”. Definitely criticism hurts, but it hurts more when people talk without facts.

A respectable member said that once Ch. Devi Lalji called my father "Sampati Singh". With the highest of respect, I ask the member to please produce or highlight the fact when and where Ch. Devi Lalji said that. It’s a public forum, therefore, a healthy but a criticism accompanied with a fact must be mandatory, not as a compulsion but with self-conscious. Ch. Devi Lalji remains “dadaji” for me and would always be one, as he was the one responsible for making my father enter public life, and for what we are today.


We didn’t leave because Congress is expected to come to power. We could have done that in 1982, 1991, 1996, or 2005. There were many many occasions if we wanted to go for “cheap personal interest”. We didn’t leave the party as we pledged our life to Ch. Devi Lalji, and we might not have ever if he was alive. After a number of humiliations, we had to leave the party. Reasons are endless; both public, and personal.

Today, Chautlas say “Sampat Singh ko hum vidhaan sabha mein nahin, samsham mein bhejenge”. You might be able to imagine what it feels to me when they say such words. After such a loyalty we are getting such a criticism.

My father is of the view that he has achieved more than he dreamt. Upcoming Vidhaan Sabha election would be his last.

Since Chautalas and Bhajan Lal would compromise against my father, and would put up a united show in the election, therefore our family is going through the worse.



I will make sure that my father goes to vidhan sabha and not “samshan”.

I, kindly request all the member that before you put up anything on a community forum, please verify the facts with the dates and press reporting.

Kindest Regards!!

I believe that i'm a bit late reading this one as the results are juts out. Congratulations to your father and you... But i believe this is the time to start working...Who's next in the line?? I hope u know what i'm talikng about

 

[vivekmalik05]

There have been a lot of talks and discussions about my father on Jatland. Truly, it wasn’t easy to quit INLD, founded by Ch. Devi Lalji and flourished by my father in every possible way. Some said that we left INLD for self-interests, and some spoke about “cheap personal gain”. Definitely criticism hurts, but it hurts more when people talk without facts.

A respectable member said that once Ch. Devi Lalji called my father "Sampati Singh". With the highest of respect, I ask the member to please produce or highlight the fact when and where Ch. Devi Lalji said that. It’s a public forum, therefore, a healthy but a criticism accompanied with a fact must be mandatory, not as a compulsion but with self-conscious. Ch. Devi Lalji remains “dadaji” for me and would always be one, as he was the one responsible for making my father enter public life, and for what we are today.


We didn’t leave because Congress is expected to come to power. We could have done that in 1982, 1991, 1996, or 2005. There were many many occasions if we wanted to go for “cheap personal interest”. We didn’t leave the party as we pledged our life to Ch. Devi Lalji, and we might not have ever if he was alive. After a number of humiliations, we had to leave the party. Reasons are endless; both public, and personal.

Today, Chautlas say “Sampat Singh ko hum vidhaan sabha mein nahin, samsham mein bhejenge”. You might be able to imagine what it feels to me when they say such words. After such a loyalty we are getting such a criticism.

My father is of the view that he has achieved more than he dreamt. Upcoming Vidhaan Sabha election would be his last.

Since Chautalas and Bhajan Lal would compromise against my father, and would put up a united show in the election, therefore our family is going through the worse.



I will make sure that my father goes to vidhan sabha and not “samshan”.

I, kindly request all the member that before you put up anything on a community forum, please verify the facts with the dates and press reporting.

Kindest Regards!!

I believe that i'm a bit late reading this one as the results are just out. Congratulations to your father and you... But i believe this is the time to start working...Who's next in the line?? I hope u know what i'm talikng about

 

[spdeshwal]

I will make sure that my father goes to vidhan sabha and not “samshan”. ........Gaurav

जब आब की औध निदान बने.....

ना डरूं, अर सों जब जाये लरूं !
निश्चय कर अपनी जीत करूँ !


Congratulations Gaurav Bhai for winning this one of the toughest battles in this election! Please also extent my heartiest congratulations and best wishes for the times ahead to Professor Saheb! Now is the time for you all to take care of the issues he raised and because of what he parted ways with INLD


Cheers!

 

[suniljakhar]

Accolades go to Nalwa constituency voters as well along with Prof Sahab. It’s really soothing to see that people are now coming of age and are voting for the best candidates above all sort of “ism” and above any political party. Let the best man win always :rock :rock

My heartiest congratulations to Prof Sahab, to Nalwa people whom he represents now and the efforts put in by Gaurav. Well done mate !!

 

[anilsangwan]

भाई सुनील........अपने इस 'जाटलैंडर छोरे' ने रात दिन एक कर दिया था ... "भजनलाल रुपी जाट विरोधी बरगद का पेड़" उखाड़ना इतना आसान नहीं था | प्रोफ़ेसर साहब की साफ़ छवि के साथ साथ उनका मिलनसार स्वभाव अपने आप में अनूठा रहा है | साथ में गौरव भाई ने पूरी की पूरी युवा शक्ति को अपने साथ जोड़ लिया वोह भी सिर्फ कुछ दिनों में ही .... अगर ज्यादा समय मिलता तो शायद जसमा देवी अपनी जमानत भी नहीं बचा पाती ....


जैसा की गौरव ने पहले लिखा, मैच फिक्सिंग की पूरी कोशिश हुयी विरोधियों के द्वारा ..... लेकिन 'जनता' ने ऐसी सब कोशिशों को सिरे से नकार दिया .....उपर से नलवा की "जाट" जनता को ऐसा कद्दावर पहली बार मिला और उन्होने एकतरफा रुख दिखाया जो की जाट वोटों में बहुत कम देखने को मिलता है .....


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यह प्रोफ़ेसर साब की मजबूत हुयी स्थिति का असर था की कुलदीप को साथ लगते इलाके आदमपुर में अपनी सीट को बचाने में ही अपनी भलाई समझी | कुलदीप कहता था की "नलवा हलके के लोगो तुम भजनलाल परिवार के नाम जो गिरदावरी है उसको टूटने मत देना" ..... लेकिन लोगों ने साफ़ छवि और विकास को प्राथमिकता दी...नतीजा हम सब के सामने है ....



गौरव भाई ने जाटलैंड पे किया अपना वादा पूरा किया और तमाम अटकलों को दूर करते हुए इतनी शानदार अंतर से जीत हासिल करवा कर उस सोच को आगे बढाया की इरादे मजबूत हों तो कोई भी किला भेदना मुश्किल नहीं होता ... भगवान् ऐसे सपूत हर माता पिता को दें.


नलवा की जनता ने बहुत समझदारी से फैसला लिया है | उन सब लोगों को और जाटलैंड वासियों को भजनलाल के पैर उखाड़ने के लिए बहुत बहुत बधाई ....

accolades go to nalwa constituency voters as well along with prof sahab. It’s really soothing to see that people are now coming of age and are voting for the best candidates above all sort of “ism” and above any political party. Let the best man win always :rock :rock

my heartiest congratulations to prof sahab, to nalwa people whom he represents now and the efforts put in by gaurav. Well done mate !!

 

[suniljakhar]

PAPA over Mummies

Bhai, I read in newspapers that there was some unholy liaisoning b/w Bishnoe and Jindal that “ki tu meri mummy ko jita, me teri mummy ko jitvaunga”, don’t know if it was on a light note but i can imagine how tough it would have been for Prof sahab to sail through given the presence of two such opponents…

but people intelligently preferred to vote for Gaurav’s “PAPA over Mummy”

भाई सुनील........अपने इस 'जाटलैंडर छोरे' ने रात दिन एक कर दिया था ... "भजनलाल रुपी जाट विरोधी बरगद का पेड़" उखाड़ना इतना आसान नहीं था | प्रोफ़ेसर साहब की साफ़ छवि के साथ साथ उनका मिलनसार स्वभाव अपने आप में अनूठा रहा है | साथ में गौरव भाई ने पूरी की पूरी युवा शक्ति को अपने साथ जोड़ लिया वोह भी सिर्फ कुछ दिनों में ही .... अगर ज्यादा समय मिलता तो शायद जसमा देवी अपनी जमानत भी नहीं बचा पाती ....


जैसा की गौरव ने पहले लिखा, मैच फिक्सिंग की पूरी कोशिश हुयी विरोधियों के द्वारा ..... लेकिन 'जनता' ने ऐसी सब कोशिशों को सिरे से नकार दिया .....उपर से नलवा की "जाट" जनता को ऐसा कद्दावर पहली बार मिला और उन्होने एकतरफा रुख दिखाया जो की जाट वोटों में बहुत कम देखने को मिलता है .....


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यह प्रोफ़ेसर साब की मजबूत हुयी स्थिति का असर था की कुलदीप को साथ लगते इलाके आदमपुर में अपनी सीट को बचाने में ही अपनी भलाई समझी | कुलदीप कहता था की "नलवा हलके के लोगो तुम भजनलाल परिवार के नाम जो गिरदावरी है उसको टूटने मत देना" ..... लेकिन लोगों ने साफ़ छवि और विकास को प्राथमिकता दी...नतीजा हम सब के सामने है ....



गौरव भाई ने जाटलैंड पे किया अपना वादा पूरा किया और तमाम अटकलों को दूर करते हुए इतनी शानदार अंतर से जीत हासिल करवा कर उस सोच को आगे बढाया की इरादे मजबूत हों तो कोई भी किला भेदना मुश्किल नहीं होता ... भगवान् ऐसे सपूत हर माता पिता को दें.


नलवा की जनता ने बहुत समझदारी से फैसला लिया है | उन सब लोगों को और जाटलैंड वासियों को भजनलाल के पैर उखाड़ने के लिए बहुत बहुत बधाई ....

 

[anilsangwan]

Bhai, I read in newspapers that there was some unholy liaisoning b/w Bishnoe and Jindal that “ki tu meri mummy ko jita, me teri mummy ko jitvaunga”, don’t know if it was on a light note but i can imagine how tough it would have been for Prof sahab to sail through given the presence of two such opponents…

but people intelligently preferred to vote for Gaurav’s “PAPA over Mummy”

ना भाई....
यह "मेरी मम्मी को जीता ..में तेरी मम्मी को जितानुन्गा.." यह सब प्रचार खुद HJC ne फैलाए थे ताकि इनका फायदा मिल सके .... नवीन जिंदल ji ने नलवा में खुल कर प्रोफ साब के लिए वोट मांगे थे.... नलवा गाँव तोशाम से हिसार रोड पर दूसरा गाँव है खानक के बाद....और यह गाँव स्वर्गीय OP Jindal ji का पैतृक गाँव है....और इलेक्शन से २ दिन पहले नवीन ने खुद घर घर में जा कर प्रोफ साब के लिए वोट मांगे थे...... लेकिन नवीन जिंदल ji ने साफ़ तौर पर खुद मदद की थी.... लेकिन "चस्मा - जसमा" अलायंस की भी अटकलें थी ...सब कुलदीप ने फायदा उठाने के लिए किया था.... आखिरकार जनता ने वही किया जो सही था...



भजन लाल परिवार के लिए हरयाणा के ४० साल के इतिहास में विधानसभा में पहली हार है .......




12th विधानसभा में प्रोफ संपत सिंह ji और कैप्टन अजय यादव सिर्फ २ ही ऐसे कांग्रेस MLA हैं जो छठी बार विधानसभा में पहुंचे हैं....बाकी सब पांच या उस से कम बार आये हैं.....

 

[ravidhaka]

Sunil bhai, khabar to ye bhi hain ke sampat singh ne bhattu halke ke vote (now in adampur) kuldeep bishnoi ke dalva deye aur badle main kuldeep bishnoi ne apne mummy & papa ko nalwa halke main HJC ke leye jyada parchar nahi karne deya.....

Kuch bhi ho sakta hain politics main...congress ka JP nahi chata tha sampat & chattarpal jete and sampat nahi chata tha ke JP jete....

NO ONE CLEAN IN THIS GAME!!!! IF YOU ARE CLEAN YOU WILL BE OUT OF THE GAME.

Bhai, I read in newspapers that there was some unholy liaisoning b/w Bishnoe and Jindal that “ki tu meri mummy ko jita, me teri mummy ko jitvaunga”, don’t know if it was on a light note but i can imagine how tough it would have been for Prof sahab to sail through given the presence of two such opponents…

but people intelligently preferred to vote for Gaurav’s “PAPA over Mummy”

 

[dheeraj24]

Bhagoda!!

Bhagode na jittya karein.
Ooh bhi yo tactical bhagoda bhi bana rakha ho ..Chautala saab ne

Here there was no fight...Bhasma na jit sake thi..as
they are not in Congress (CM etc to chod do)

If HJC has given ticket to Chand Mohmadd tab bera
pat-ta..bhagode ka damm

Nu bhi
JO TAKATVAR NAHIN VO DAGABAAJ ZAROOR HOGA

 

[malikdeepak1]

12th विधानसभा में प्रोफ संपत सिंह ji और कैप्टन अजय यादव सिर्फ २ ही ऐसे कांग्रेस MLA हैं जो छठी बार विधानसभा में पहुंचे हैं....बाकी सब पांच या उस से कम बार आये हैं.....

Bhaisaab is captain ne to rampura house ke naak me dam kar rakhya se
Rao Daan Singh ne poora jor la liya par yu nahi haarya

Er is kuldeep ka bhavishya andhkaarmay se itne yu congress te baher se. Apne ghar me jo 6000 vote te muskil te jitya se wo CM banen ke supne dekhe se. Joot marenge log iske agle election me :boxing

 

[anilsangwan]

..... अगर भट्टू हलके के लोग जे पी की मदद नहीं करते तो कुलदीप से सिर्फ 6015 votes का मार्जिन रहता ?बाकी के वोट बिश्नोइया ने दिए जेपी के?

Sunil bhai, khabar to ye bhi hain ke sampat singh ne bhattu halke ke vote (now in adampur) kuldeep bishnoi ke dalva deye aur badle main kuldeep bishnoi ne apne mummy & papa ko nalwa halke main HJC ke leye jyada parchar nahi karne deya.....

Kuch bhi ho sakta hain politics main...congress ka JP nahi chata tha sampat & chattarpal jete and sampat nahi chata tha ke JP jete....

NO ONE CLEAN IN THIS GAME!!!! IF YOU ARE CLEAN YOU WILL BE OUT OF THE GAME.