Is jat an arrogant or proud community?

krishdel said:
Non Jat Community like Brahmin, Bania & Punjabi Khatri do not want Jats to rise because they think that due to rise of Jats their dadagiri will come down , .
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no sir .............in my village a small land given to bahaman on mercy recorded in revanue recorde and khatri jin ko pakistani rafuggi kahtethey unko ijjat ki roti dee after 1947 .gamm n daya karke .
.....agar aise ghattia orr ahsan farmosh log jatto ko batteege ki wo kya h .........too ghanney jooott mara gay arr bina giney arr bina thambay :nonchalance:
jat h to hindustan h na too mantri bhaman arr bania /khatri muslman raja ka bhi raha s .
 
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rkumar said:
I don't think Jats are arrogant. Problem is with our rough dialect which conveys the impression of being arrogant. Our spoken language is mostly "lathmaar". We don't train our kids in polite speech as we ourselves don't know what politeness is all about.

RK^2
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You may be right sir. But don't you think dialect and vernacular is such a part of society that reflects its growth and ideology to a great extent? Had the 'lathmaar' been the sole reason for picturing Jats arrogant, the other castes dwelling in the same area would also be having the same considerations and blames as the Jats. But this is not so. I must agree to your view that we need to teach our kids politeness. Are we ready to do so, I am doubtful?
 
mandeep333 said:
What shall we gain by becoming apparently rude and who bothers what you have in your heart- kindness and softness???
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1st of all just our language( boli) is rude.

How many jat are farmer, how many jat protecting country?


Kya ya wo meethi meethi Baat karke chori Patn ne softness and kindness bole hai.

We are the man of word,

Im haryanvi And I don't feel shame to speak haryanvi

People can speak punjabi but why not haryanvi

The method is simple : act freely and freedom will be your yours.
 
amankadian said:
1st of all just our language( boli) is rude.

How many jat are farmer, how many jat protecting country?


Kya ya wo meethi meethi Baat karke chori Patn ne softness and kindness bole hai.

We are the man of word,

Im haryanvi And I don't feel shame to speak haryanvi

People can speak punjabi but why not haryanvi

The method is simple : act freely and freedom will be your yours.
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yes..seems reasonable..

what about a "mango" jat/jatt who does not have access to civilized and refined world due to education and language barriers...if anyone has issues with our mother tongue...go to hell....we are born this way and we will die like this..............
 
amankadian said:
1st of all just our language( boli) is rude.

How many jat are farmer, how many jat protecting country?


Kya ya wo meethi meethi Baat karke chori Patn ne softness and kindness bole hai.

We are the man of word,

Im haryanvi And I don't feel shame to speak haryanvi

People can speak punjabi but why not haryanvi

The method is simple : act freely and freedom will be your yours.
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Yes my friend. Freedom is the essence of everything. Free people generally excel!
 
prashantacmet said:
yes..seems reasonable..

what about a "mango" jat/jatt who does not have access to civilized and refined world due to education and language barriers...if anyone has issues with our mother tongue...go to hell....we are born this way and we will die like this..............
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But not everytime you work on myway or highway stuff. Negotiation skills are mandatory sometimes. also sometimes middle path may be the best solution.
 
mandeep333 said:
You may be right sir. But don't you think dialect and vernacular is such a part of society that reflects its growth and ideology to a great extent? Had the 'lathmaar' been the sole reason for picturing Jats arrogant, the other castes dwelling in the same area would also be having the same considerations and blames as the Jats. But this is not so. I must agree to your view that we need to teach our kids politeness. Are we ready to do so, I am doubtful?[/QUO

Its already happening in urban areas. People in rural areas are also learning when they go for jobs in metro.
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prashantacmet said:
yes..seems reasonable..

what about a "mango" jat/jatt who does not have access to civilized and refined world due to education and language barriers...if anyone has issues with our mother tongue...go to hell....we are born this way and we will die like this..............
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It's our culture, language, we must love it and respect it. I really don't know why people want to keep away their children from it.

If we can't respect it, can't give importance to it

Then how others can respect it?

My personal experience:- I feel haryanvi more enjoyably, funny, interesting language. We should learn English, Hindi but there is no need to forget Haryanvi.

There are people in other states too who like haryanvi language and they enjoy it.

Bhai hum Haryana main or ke Abric bolege.
 
amankadian said:
It's our culture, language, we must love it and respect it. I really don't know why people want to keep away their children from it.

If we can't respect it, can't give importance to it

Then how others can respect it?

My personal experience:-.
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gurgaon /delhi m jab tak chorra school (english aly ) m hota h .....to maa baap n kahta h ki english m baat karo ptm m .......per college m jate hi haryanvi bolene lagta h self interest s ...........arr gharalye usne samjane lagte h bhai kyu addu banan lagya ......................
per wo college m jaker syad samajh leta h ki ye surviroo ki bhassha h ..........so haryanvi must h fratttadar english/french k sathh .
 
skharb said:
gurgaon /delhi m jab tak chorra school (english aly ) m hota h .....to maa baap n kahta h ki english m baat karo ptm m .......per college m jate hi haryanvi bolene lagta h self interest s ...........arr gharalye usne samjane lagte h bhai kyu addu banan lagya ......................
per wo college m jaker syad samajh leta h ki ye surviroo ki bhassha h ..........so haryanvi must h fratttadar english/french k sathh .
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Arry bhai Gurgaon ki baat ke sa,

Australia, England or che America ghum le, per jo baata ka jeesa haryana main sa wo kitti kona bhai.
 
some old and gold joke from Jatland. This is who we are


shivji nei jab jat banaya to usee sab kuch diya lamba choda shareer, par jubaan na di, tu parvati boli "ki kitna suthra aadmi hai yeh jat ise bhi jubaan dei do taki yeh bhi bol sake"

sivji ne kaha" na yeh bina jubaan ke hee theek hai, par parvati kee jid ke chalte sivji ne jat ko jubaan dei dee.

jubaan milte hi jat bola" re mode(budhe) yo suthri see lugayee kit sei maree"


Ek baar ek molad apni susrad gaya. Uski saasu ne us tahi laapsi ghal di. Molad ne bhot-e aachi laggi. Molad ne poocha yo ke se, te sasu boli beta lapsi se , aur le le. Molad ne saram si aayee er socha gharan ja ke apni ma dhore banwaunga. Molad tawla sa uth ke chal pada. Lapsi lapsi karta raha ke kede bhool na jaaon. Kheton ke beechale ke bhaaja ja tha er lapsi lapsi karta ja tha. Ek nala a gaya us pe se koodan ke chakkar mein wo lapsi bhool gaya. Eb ke kare. Beechara bhola tha , soocha is nale mein pad gayi wo to eb dhoondu su. Pajama sangwa ke, karda ho ke mand gaya. Khet mein haali ne dekha , soocha bhahi kuch badi-e cheej pad gayi nale mein wo bhi galiyan doondan lagya. Haali ne jab kuch der tahi kuch bhi na deekha to bohla ' Re ya LAPSI to karwa di per yaa to bata ke dhoonde ke se"
Molad bola "Kaka Paa-gee, LAPSI, ya he te khoo rahi thi

ek baar ek jat aur baniyya ne shivji bhole ki pooja ki. Shivji ne darshan diye. Aur jat ko bole ke tu 3 var maang le.
Aur baniyye ko bole ki kyonki tu kai saal se meri pooja karta hai to jo bhi jat maangega uska doogna tum ko mil jaega.
Jat ne 100 bheege dharti maang li, to baniyya ko 200 bheege mil gayi. Jat ne ek joddi bail manngee to baniyaa ko do joddi mil gaye. Jat ko ye nahi bhayya, vaise hi usko baniyya pasand nahi tha. To jat thodi der sooch ke bola ' Shivji maharaj, tu bahut balwaan hai, tune mujh pe kripa ki hai. Ab tu mujhe itna mar ki mein adhmara ho jaaoon"

Bhai Tau kede bahamn na jimya karta tha, per Bhai tayee ke ghana-e kahne pe, ek purnmassi ne bahaman ne le aya.
Bahaman bhee bhot petoo tha, wo bhee Roti pe Roti, er ghana-e sara halwa tar gyaa. Tau ne bahamn kati-e pasand na tha, per eb le aya te awabhagat te karni-e thee, Tau Roti lya-lya ke preshan ho gyaa.
Kayee ser choon utar ke, bahaman ne dakar lee er hath dhon lag gyaa, to bhar te gali ka kuta aa-ke bath gyaa.
Bahamn Kute ko dekh ke bolya "Oh-ho tu te rahe gaya."
Tau bolya "Er Khasam isne te chhod de, ke eb isne bhee kha ga"


 
amankadian said:
1st of all just our language( boli) is rude.

How many jat are farmer, how many jat protecting country?


Kya ya wo meethi meethi Baat karke chori Patn ne softness and kindness bole hai.

We are the man of word,

Im haryanvi And I don't feel shame to speak haryanvi

People can speak punjabi but why not haryanvi

The method is simple : act freely and freedom will be your yours.
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There is nothing wrong with becoming Haryanvi or having 'lathmaar' boli(dialect). Let's remember Haryana is not solely comprised of Jats and the 'lathmaar' dialect is also in the same way not the sole property of Jats. We must be proud but the point I raised is that: Let us probe whether we the Jats are proud or arrogant. Other inhabitants of Haryana(Actually I didn't wish to limit our discussion to Haryana only, anyway) use the same dialect; live in the same environment; have almost similar food habit and almost identical sense of pride for their state. Now, the question is why a Jat is usually blamed by other communities. And I am discussing these points here because this site is purely for Jats, isn't it? It will be more interesting if we don't limit ourselves to Haryana only because a Jat is a Jat no matter where he/she lives!
 
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mandeep333 said:
There is nothing wrong with becoming Haryanvi or having 'lathmaar' boli(dialect). Let's remember Haryana is not solely comprised of Jats and the 'lathmaar' dialect is also in the same way not the sole property of Jats. We must be proud but the point I raised is that: Let us probe whether we the Jats are proud or arrogant. Other inhabitants of Haryana(Actually I didn't wish to limit our discussion to Haryana only, anyway) use the same dialect; live in the same environment; have almost similar food habit and almost identical sense of pride for their state. Now, the question is why a Jat is usually blamed by other communities. And I am discussing these points here because this site is purely for Jats, isn't it? It will be more interesting if we don't limit ourselves to Haryana only because a Jat is a Jat no matter where he/she lives!
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Agree with your statements. other communities walo ki ye sirf soch bani hui. Jat ka dimag mota hota, wo rude hote, wo mar pitai karte hai. Or ye jo wo blame karte hai wo sirf meri language or personality ki waja se karte they. Now it's changing.

But we are not touching anybody, Only few people have ego problem about their Choudhar. Thats it

Asi to communities nhi jaha sab acche hai. Her field mein jat hai, success hai. phely sirt kheti karte they. eb flight udwe hai

Truth is that We're tough competitors for others.
 
Ek kahawat hai -dur ke dhol suhawne

Per jaato ke bare mein iska ulta hai.sab humari outer shell ko dekh ke apna perception bna le hai jabki reality iski ekdum ulat hai.

Mera ek dost hai lucknow ka.wo bhi jaato ko rude arrogant etc etc kehta tha.last yr wo mere ghar aaya ek mahine ke liye.pehle toh mere ghar mein uska perception change ho gya.or jaise jaise wo mere sath alag alag jagah gya,uska perception ek dum change ho gya.ek bar Matan gya wo meri gel ek byah mein, ude sarre ke sarre pehalwan, per unte mil ke,baat karke wo bola ki bhai tumhara impression pta ni kyu itna rude arrogant hone ka hai,per tum ho nhi.

Ab kahi bahar hote hai toh jaato ko defend karne ki jarurat ni padti is mamle mein merko.wo apne aap vakalat kar leta hai meri od teh.


Jab wo ghar tha toh us time ek bar wo aaya or bola ki bhai,bahar ladai ho gyi hai.
Mene pucha kaha?
Wo bola ke aunty kissi pe chila rahi hai or wo bhi chila rahi hai.
Mene kahi ke bhai chilla ni rahi,wo bat kar rahe hai.


Ab aisi aisi bat har roz hoti hai or aas pados walle kamjor dil walle humne arrogant kawe toh mahri ke galti hai.

Rahi baat proud ki,wo te hum hai or rehwenge.
 
dahiyarocks said:
Ek kahawat hai -dur ke dhol suhawne

Rahi baat proud ki,wo te hum hai or rehwenge.
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baat ghamandi aur garviiley k antar ki hai bhai. हमें यह तो निश्चित करना होगा कि हम घमन्डी हैं या अपने आप और अपनी कौम पर गर्व करने वाले। हम समाजिक प्राणी हैं और समाज के साथ हमारे कैसे रिश्ते हैं यह बात भी महत्वपूर्ण है और इसे ध्यान में रखना ही होगा। हमारा आचरण ऐसा होना चाहिए कि सब जिसका अनुसरण करें । खामख्वाह की हवाबाजी में क्या रखा है। बात सर्वसमाज के आचरण की है और हम सभी एक एक मिलके ही समाज बनाते हैं।
 
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