New Chief Minister of Haryana

[rathiji]

Jitne bhai yahan vidhwa vilap kar rahe hai. Unse mera yahi kehna hai ke mil ke baith jate ek jagah vote gerte banwa lete Jat CM. Jab mil ke baitha ni gaya to JL pe keyboard tod tod ke ke hoga.

Bhiwani ke bhai hai uste baat hui keh tha Hudda ne naas kar diya mhara highway ku keh keh ke thak gaye the. keh tha JIND or Kaithal to Pakistan sa bana diya Hudda ne. Jo hua sahi hua.

2-4 din or keyboard tod lo sarkar apna kaam shuru kar degi jo community ka bhala chahte hai MLA ko pakdo or dabab bana ke rakho. Yahan UP me na mhara CM n party na koi neta hai kisi me dum jo west UP ke jato ko chu de. peechle saal dekh hi liya duniya ne. Balak ki dhaal roke ke fayada mhara CM na bana CM na bana. CM bantee nahi hai banwaye jaate hai. JAT hone ka certificate to JL pe le lo, kamjor jat hone ka le lo, majboot ka le lo. sab certificate available hai. Ek certificate jake Khattar ne de do va bhi Jat ban jaga fer to ho jaga jat CM.

Kuch posts ye bhi batatai hai ke hamare Haryana ke bhai brave hai or superior hai hum se. hum to pasand karte hai ruled by others & no one can rule them. Aise hi banegi chaudhar sabko neecha dikhao. bolne pe koi tax to hai nahi non Jat CM ban gaya Haryana me jispe jo hota ho karle.

 

[samarkadian]

Jitne bhai yahan vidhwa vilap kar rahe hai. Unse mera yahi kehna hai ke mil ke baith jate ek jagah vote gerte banwa lete Jat CM. Jab mil ke baitha ni gaya to JL pe keyboard tod tod ke ke hoga.

Bhiwani ke bhai hai uste baat hui keh tha Hudda ne naas kar diya mhara highway ku keh keh ke thak gaye the. keh tha JIND or Kaithal to Pakistan sa bana diya Hudda ne. Jo hua sahi hua.

2-4 din or keyboard tod lo sarkar apna kaam shuru kar degi jo community ka bhala chahte hai MLA ko pakdo or dabab bana ke rakho. Yahan UP me na mhara CM n party na koi neta hai kisi me dum jo west UP ke jato ko chu de. peechle saal dekh hi liya duniya ne. Balak ki dhaal roke ke fayada mhara CM na bana CM na bana. CM bantee nahi hai banwaye jaate hai. JAT hone ka certificate to JL pe le lo, kamjor jat hone ka le lo, majboot ka le lo. sab certificate available hai. Ek certificate jake Khattar ne de do va bhi Jat ban jaga fer to ho jaga jat CM.

Kuch posts ye bhi batatai hai ke hamare Haryana ke bhai brave hai or superior hai hum se. hum to pasand karte hai ruled by others & no one can rule them. Aise hi banegi chaudhar sabko neecha dikhao. bolne pe koi tax to hai nahi non Jat CM ban gaya Haryana me jispe jo hota ho karle.

Report those posts if you will and can.

Secondaly there is no tax on speaking anywhere thaty you are preaching your RSS and anti-jat mindset here. Whole JL was with UP jats on Mujjafarnagar riots where you and some other experts are trying to criticise and downplay our Jat CMship issue as Vidhwa Vilap.

You have broken enough keys on keyboard about Modi and RSS so don't try to be a saintly voice on that point.

 

[rathiji]

Report those posts if you will and can.

Secondaly there is no tax on speaking anywhere thaty you are preaching your RSS and anti-jat mindset here. Whole JL was with UP jats on Mujjafarnagar riots where you and some other experts are trying to criticise and downplay our Jat CMship issue as Vidhwa Vilap.

You have broken enough keys on keyboard about Modi and RSS so don't try to be a saintly voice on that point.

I wont report. That will not serve any purpose. But if you have any iota of understanding that do you believe that the problem is scattering of JAT votes ?

Why do you believe that you are the only true representative of community ? Who will decide ? You , me , JL, KHAP, politicians or what ? When we love our community so much why votes were divided into INLD, BJP, Congress ? Who is responsible ?

How can you say anyone anti-jat if he/she doesn't agree with you ? INLD worked with BJP in past . I dont think majority of Jats believe INLD is anti jat. If you carry on with this speed half od JL will be anti-jat sooner or later as per your findings.

 

[manojmalik007]

जाटलैंड के कई लोग्गां नै एक दूसरे के मुँह में खूब लड्डू ठूंसे होंगे खट्टर साहब के नाम की घोषणा पर i कट्टर साहब को चौधर की पगड़ी मुबारक i हालांकि जाट गौरव और गैरत के कुछ अपनों के ही हाथों हुए खून पर दिल आहत है i मगर दो चार महीने में शायद बदले हुए निज़ाम में जीने की आदत पड़ जाएगी i

hahaha. kattar saab ko pagdi to punjabi mubarak karenge. dheere dheere ibb ye punjabi rajniti pai bi kabza bitha denge. tezz pade sain jattan tai aapne kaam kadhvaan mai. jaatan ka ek he tai business tha, rajniti aala haryane mai aar ibb uhh mai bhi sendh lagni shuru ho gi sai.

 

[manojmalik007]

jai kihhe bhai nai nyu lagta ho ke jaat mukhyanmantri na banan tai kimme farak ni padta tai thode tame datt jaiyo. saari samagh aa jaagi. ek non-jat bana tha jo haamne ghana sedha tha ibb tayi. masya tai uhh tai panda chutya aar ibb doosra ban ga. Jat mukhmantri banan tai sarkaar ke ghankhare kaam jaatan k kaboo mai aawe sai. Bansilal, devi lal, chautala, hooda. In saaryan nai bhot ghane jaatan ke balak sarkari naukri lagwe the. aaj jaade saare sarkari mehkma mai jaat ghane sai. na tai bhool jaao bhaiyo. kimme ni hona jana tha. tai bhai nyu munna maano k kimme nuksaan nahi hoya sai. nuksaan tai ho liya, ihh ki bharpai mai tame laagega ibbe.

 

[samarkadian]

I wont report. That will not serve any purpose. But if you have any iota of understanding that do you believe that the problem is scattering of JAT votes ?

Why do you believe that you are the only true representative of community ? Who will decide ? You , me , JL, KHAP, politicians or what ? When we love our community so much why votes were divided into INLD, BJP, Congress ? Who is responsible ?

How can you say anyone anti-jat if he/she doesn't agree with you ? INLD worked with BJP in past . I dont think majority of Jats believe INLD is anti jat. If you carry on with this speed half od JL will be anti-jat sooner or later as per your findings.

Its evident the way you took your stance about Jat CM ship in Haryana as Vidhwa Vilap. Your Jat love is weaker than your BJP love and Congress hate. If my concern for a Jat CM appears as child cry or whatsoever, then so be it.

When INLD was an ally with BJP, Chief minister was a Jat. Its not spread of Jat Votes rather its Anti-Jat wave created by BJP.

If you carry on with this speed of rationalising BJP's divisive acts, non-jat wave will be more stronger.

 

[rathiji]

Its evident the way you took your stance about Jat CM ship in Haryana as Vidhwa Vilap. Your Jat love is weaker than your BJP love and Congress hate. If my concern for a Jat CM appears as child cry or whatsoever, then so be it.

When INLD was an ally with BJP, Chief minister was a Jat. Its not spread of Jat Votes rather its Anti-Jat wave created by BJP.

If you carry on with this speed of rationalising BJP's divisive acts, non-jat wave will be more stronger.

Okay. I assume for a moment you are true JAT lover unlike me& others who are weaker one and whatever you said in only right. What were you and other strong Jat lovers doing while this wave was getting created ? you cud nt understand or cud nt stop that ? If you never understand then admit they are smarter than you & if you understood then could have acted. If you acted you failed. Right, so what is point now ?

There are 25% Jats in Haryana , 1 out of every 4. I strongly believe that if any party gets this 25% they will get absolute majority.

 

[abhikrana]

Bhai if we want a Jat CM from BJP, we should have voted for BJP.

My only point is that we vote for Congress and INLD and still expect BJP to make a Jat CM. It is not logical at all.

We should have strengthened Capt. Abhimanyu's hands by electing at least 20 Jat BJP MLA's who would have stood behind him and given him rock solid support in his demand for a Jat CM.

It is all a numbers game, be it war or elections.

Its evident the way you took your stance about Jat CM ship in Haryana as Vidhwa Vilap. Your Jat love is weaker than your BJP love and Congress hate. If my concern for a Jat CM appears as child cry or whatsoever, then so be it.

When INLD was an ally with BJP, Chief minister was a Jat. Its not spread of Jat Votes rather its Anti-Jat wave created by BJP.

If you carry on with this speed of rationalising BJP's divisive acts, non-jat wave will be more stronger.

 

[samarkadian]

Bhai if we want a Jat CM from BJP, we should have voted for BJP.

My only point is that we vote for Congress and INLD and still expect BJP to make a Jat CM. It is not logical at all.

We should have strengthened Capt. Abhimanyu's hands by electing at least 20 Jat BJP MLA's who would have stood behind him and given him rock solid support in his demand for a Jat CM.

It is all a numbers game, be it war or elections.

Bhai Abhik, if you go by this logic of MLAs then by an Ahir or Gujjar is not a CM.

 

[abhikrana]

What is the number of Ahir MLAs or Gujjar MLAs?

We are ignoring the fact that this time it was not Jat Vs. Gujjar or Jat vs. Ahir. This time it was Jat vs. Non-Jat. The entire non-Jat vote consolidated behind BJP including Gujjars, Ahirs, Pandats, baniyas, punjabis, etc.

In case even Ahirs or Gujjars got the same number of seats as Jats, even they would not be in a demanding or bargaining position.

Bhai Abhik, if you go by this logic of MLAs then by an Ahir or Gujjar is not a CM.

 

[samarkadian]

Okay. I assume for a moment you are true JAT lover unlike me& others who are weaker one and whatever you said in only right. What were you and other strong Jat lovers doing while this wave was getting created ? you cud nt understand or cud nt stop that ? If you never understand then admit they are smarter than you & if you understood then could have acted. If you acted you failed. Right, so what is point now ?

There are 25% Jats in Haryana , 1 out of every 4. I strongly believe that if any party gets this 25% they will get absolute majority.

Well then as a true jat I am doing what shall a true jat would say where as you are just finding the fault and rationalising here or there but not where it shall be. Its an accepted fact that non-jats were polarised where as my whole point being a refugee being the CM of Jatland. There is absolutely a point in spreading the word about BJP's anti-jat agenda and JL is the platform. Why do you think I shall not speak about it and why is it a child cry.?

 

[samarkadian]

What is the number of Ahir MLAs or Gujjar MLAs?

We are ignoring the fact that this time it was not Jat Vs. Gujjar or Jat vs. Ahir. This time it was Jat vs. Non-Jat. The entire non-Jat vote consolidated behind BJP including Gujjars, Ahirs, Pandats, baniyas, punjabis, etc.

In case even Ahirs or Gujjars got the same number of votes as Jats, even they would not be in a demanding or bargaining position.

South Haryana gave more than 20 MLAs to BJP. If it had to be non-jat then whats wrong with Rao Inderjit or Rambilash Sharma? So Abhik its not a logic of MLAs rather the choice of Shah and Modi to break the social fabric of Haryana. However it makes no sense if you fail to see that side of BJP.

 

[abhikrana]

Though I would have personally preferred Rao Inderjit as CM in case it had to be a non-Jat CM, it has been declared policy within BJP, that unless there are very pressing reasons they would not want any Central minister to resign and go back to the state.

The point that went against Ram Bilas Sharma as shown today is that making him Haryana CM would have sent wrong signal of bias towards brahmins because even Maharashtra in all likelihood would have a Brahmin CM (Devendra Fadnavis).

Let's look towards the future as to what can be done so that Jats do not come to the crossroads again that they are at today.

After Ch. Devi Lal and Dr. Sahib Singh Verma unfortunately there has been no credible Jat leadership. This is a fact that we need understand sooner than later and work towards working a strong cadre and leadership across all parties including BJP.

Let's flood/swamp BJP by joining in large numbers and beat the non-Jats in their own game by having good numbers which will act as a power/pressure point. At the risk of repeating myself, I say again that it is all about numbers.

South Haryana gave more than 20 MLAs to BJP. If it had to be non-jat then whats wrong with Rao Inderjit or Rambilash Sharma? So Abhik its not a logic of MLAs rather the choice of Shah and Modi to break the social fabric of Haryana. However it makes no sense if you fail to see that side of BJP.

 

[prikshit]

South Haryana gave more than 20 MLAs to BJP. If it had to be non-jat then whats wrong with Rao Inderjit or Rambilash Sharma? So Abhik its not a logic of MLAs rather the choice of Shah and Modi to break the social fabric of Haryana. However it makes no sense if you fail to see that side of BJP.

Bhai ye dono paake aud politician se....Tu chahe kimme keh bhai agar in dono te compare kare te Khattar rat din badiya se. Bhai ek point me point of view te soch ke maan sakun hun ak tu isme kacha dhari keh ga. Waise rambilash te RSS+Bhaman hoga tere hi hisab se aur deadly hoga bhai.
Samar bhai dur mat ja Rajindar joon ne seat apne aap haari se. Ib nu bta isme BJP ka ke kasoor? Maine khud Rajinder te parchi geri ak jat jeet jayega. Hooda aur janta ne bahut jor laya par bhai candidate ne na laya te ke kar sake se. Moreover every party wants to win, ib badli me ke kam jat se? Udde congress ne Pandit te kyu di? Bhai votes pehle bhi divided thi, aage bhi rehegi.
Bhai Jat na bana uska dhukh sabne se, par yahan se bhi thoda saare sambhal jaye to shayad thoda bhalla ho jya.

 

[samarkadian]

Though I would have personally preferred Rao Inderjit as CM in case it had to be a non-Jat CM, it has been declared policy within BJP, that unless there are very pressing reasons they would not want any Central minister to resign and go back to the state.

The point that went against Ram Bilas Sharma as shown today is that making him Haryana CM would have sent wrong signal of bias towards brahmins because even Maharashtra in all likelihood would have a Brahmin CM (Devendra Fadnavis).

Let's look towards the future as to what can be done so that Jats do not come to the crossroads again that they are at today.

After Ch. Devi Lal and Dr. Sahib Singh Verma unfortunately there has been no credible Jat leadership. This is a fact that we need understand sooner than later and work towards working a strong cadre and leadership across all parties including BJP.

Let's flood/swamp BJP by joining in large numbers and beat the non-Jats in their own game by having good numbers which will act as a power/pressure point. At the risk of repeating myself, I say again that it is all about numbers.

Thank you for at-least accepting a visible fault and ploy in BJP policy. However, with all due insult to BJP, I reject to be a part of BJP now or anytime in future. Number matters of-course but its better to be a king in hell rather than a slave in heaven.

Thank you for discussing Abhik Bhai.

 

[abhikrana]

No Samar bhai, I am not accepting any fault. It is they who won the seats and it is their choice who should be the CM. We did not vote for them and now have no right to question their choice.

Under the last Jat CM we were a slave. He went and bowed in front of Gora Madam from Italy at her darbar in Delhi. Is that not slavery?? Giving farmers' land to the Damaad not slavery?

There is a big difference in your and my definition of slavery. I would prefer to work with Indians than bowing in front of a Gora Madam. The country got independence in 1947, but the Khangress is still not independent.

Thank you for at-least accepting a visible fault and ploy in BJP policy. However, with all due insult to BJP, I reject to be a part of BJP now or anytime in future. Number matters of-course but its better to be a king in hell rather than a slave in heaven.

Thank you for discussing Abhik Bhai.

 

[samarkadian]

No Samar bhai, I am not accepting any fault. It is they who won the seats and it is their choice who should be the CM. We did not vote for them and now have no right to question their choice.

Under the last Jat CM we were a slave. He went and bowed in front of Gora Madam from Italy at her darbar in Delhi. Is that not slavery?? Giving farmers' land to the Damaad not slavery?

There is a big difference in your and my definition of slavery. I would prefer to work with Indians than bowing in front of a Gora Madam. The country got independence in 1947, but the Khangress is still not independent.

Bhai Abhik, You just proved what many other have said here about your disliking congress is stronger than your disliking anti-jats.

I am not sure whether you belong to Haryana or not, so leave it on us to decide whether we were slaves or kings in Hooda or Chautala's raj.

So what about farmer's land went to Adanis? Isn't it selectivity ?

You may not have a right to question even after not voting or voting, but I certainly do because Jatland doesn't belong to anyone but jats.

 

[rkhatkar]

Desi,
Bhai hooda ne jahan mainly development ki hai wahan usse 14 me se 10 seat mili hai. Bahadurgarh ki seat me congress ka umidwar over confidence me har gya. Jatto ne vote ki dabba ke lekin, usse na apna prachar kia na 2nd level ke congress ke bando ko sath leke chala. Ab isme jato ki kya galti hai? Umidwar ki aisi taisi hui thi. Badli halke se Congress ne pandit ko ticket di hui thi wahan wo OP dhankhar se boori tarah se haara hai. Thoda logical soche to aisa nhi hai ki jats unity ki kami rahi, non-jat saare ek sath hoge wo ek factor raha hai modi ek factor raha hai.

INLD lost badly, 12 seat kam hui. Party to bade neta election har gye.

Bhai Congress lost but not Hooda. 10 Saal ke anti-incumbancy ke baad 15 seat hooda ke naam aur kaam ki hai jisme Jat-unity kitt kam reh gyi? Maine khud BJP ko vote nhi di.

Ab ye perception bana na ki BJP anti-jat hai ya pro-jat hai wo galat isliye hoga, jo vote dega, sath rahega uski bhooj hogi. Ab tum vote bhi na do aur nyu socho CM bhi thara reh ga to wo bat thodi logical nhi hai.

As a jat everyone feels ki 25% population hai fir bhi CM nhi bana wo samaj me aati hai, par bhawnao se saare kaam na hote.

Rahi bat khatkar ki to me khush hun atleasat bhaman, baniya na banaya, yun punjabi unte sahi padega. Byaha tyaha bhi kona to 50% efficiency waise badh jayegi. Rahi bat politics to naya banda hai politics me aur purana banda hai RSS me to hopefully kam acha karega. Kuch bhaio ke kacha dhari ki tarafdaari ki mirch lagwa swabhawik hai.

Me ye bat thok ke keh sakta hun agle elections me bhi same trend rahega. 100% unity possible nhi hai. 36 biradari me jat-non-jat ko agar kahe to 1 vs 35 banta hai par actual situation ye hai ki its 0.5 vs 35.5. Samaj te tham gye ae hoge.

Dear Prikshit,

Kindly edit your post word “khatkar” – (Jats)

It spells Khattar - (Refugee Punjabis)

Thanks

 

[prikshit]

Dear Prikshit,

Kindly edit your post word “khatkar” – (Jats)

It spells Khattar - (Refugee Punjabis)

Thanks

Dear Uncle,

I wrote it by mistake, my apologies. Thanks for pointing it out. I have edited my post.

Regards,

 

[rathiji]

Bhai if we want a Jat CM from BJP, we should have voted for BJP.

My only point is that we vote for Congress and INLD and still expect BJP to make a Jat CM. It is not logical at all.

We should have strengthened Capt. Abhimanyu's hands by electing at least 20 Jat BJP MLA's who would have stood behind him and given him rock solid support in his demand for a Jat CM.

It is all a numbers game, be it war or elections.

I said the same thing 1 year back here on JL. It can & must be two sided affair. I suggested brethren to understand the Tsunami Modi was bringing with him. I know nothing is permanent but this decade belongs to him. Those who don't want to engage with him or hate pathologically can wait for sometime.

Intha ye hai Haryana ke jato ki ke vo Captain Abhimanyu ko JAT leader tak nahi maante becoz he is from BJP. Criminal chautala & corrupt Hudda ko maante hai coz vo BJP me nahi hai. I have seen people even abusing Dr. Sanjeev Balyan because he is a Jat minister in BJP govt. Now after all this people cry for CMShip. Too much of hypocrisy.

Jo JAT BJP me chala gaya vo 50% Jat kam ho jata hai inn bhaiyo ke hisab te. Dhankar, Birender sab gaali khate hai. Rajasthan ke saare jat bekar hai. West UP ke bewakoof. Delhi ke english jat hai.

Haryana chota sa jara se halke 25% jat. tab inte ek leader nahi ban raha baat karte hai ke other state wale low self esteem rakhte hai. Mhare chaudhary(Charan Singh) ne aise state pe raj kara hai jiski seema Nepal se China tak hai , hajaro boli hai, hazaro cast, highly religious or ginti me hum 5% bhi nahi. Why ? Because Chaudhary sahab was not casteist, criminal, corrupt. He was a true leader of peasants & masses across the cast lines.