New Face of Terror in Mumbai!

[mukeshkumar007]

If tomorrow an emergency is applied and people are called to fight in war then everyone will contribute in whatever ways we can. That much I am sure of.

Baat emergency lage tab ki hi nai hai yaa hame apni best seva den eke liye ahwan kara jaye tab hi kare

Being a true citizen of a nation our duty is just not doing the job well for which we are paid but it is all about how well we perform our other duties those matters a lot and we may or may not be paid for them. I think you all knows what are all those duties one can perform upto his best ability.

Don’t say that I write the code well and the application developed by me is running perfect hence I did my job well as a citizen. There are so many things we can do but we don’t. We (Indian) failed totally and it is high time that we must confess our failures and learn a lesson out of it before it gets too late.

 

[sumitsehrawat]

Humaare Haryaane me gus ke wahi kaam kare jo Kashmiri Pandito ke saath kiya... kya karoge aap?? Baithoge chup? Slow process chalane ki baat karoge???

Aap house in order ne put karan ki baat kar rahe ho?? 1947 se leke aaj tak.... kitne din hoge?? 61 saal me Kashmir ka house hogya order me put??? ye slow-process ar "time destiny" soch soch ke he issi tissi hogi mhaari...

Ye dekhna ek baar....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCRFWStxV_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2vsztUdkpU&feature=related

Humaare Haryaane me ye hua to hi aap samjhoge... n pls dont tell me ki Haryane ke sher hai hum n all that... we never know... anything is possible tomorrow.

btw the latest is tht they've found a dozen more hostages DEAD inside one of the hotels...

And you are not aware of the consequences of a WAR at all.It is easier said than done.

Solution lies in putting our house in order which is almost made impossible by the political culture,kind of gov.Long way to go for us.....and hence the TIME factor i highlighted.

 

[sumitsehrawat]

fer waaahe khaam khaa ki baat..... Ghara Log jeeman aa rahe hai.... saaare mand ge Kheer Poori baatan me..... banavega kaun????

Baat emergency lage tab ki hi nai hai yaa hame apni best seva den eke liye ahwan kara jaye tab hi kare

 

[sumitsehrawat]

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[sumitsehrawat]

Frank...

Source: http://ibnlive.in.com/news/indias-political-leadership-to-blame-wall-street-journal/79270-2.html

New York: India's ruling United Progressive Alliance (UPA) has done little to launch an effective fight against terrorism and may "pay a price for its incompetence" in the elections next year, the Wall Street Journal said in its lead editorial on Friday.

"A lack of political leadership is to blame," The Wall Street Journal said as India's financial capital continued to battle terrorists who had struck in 10 places in the city Wednesday. The Mumbai terror attacks, in which at least 125 people have been killed, have been covered extensively in both the print and online edition of this New York-based daily financial newspaper.
"It (the ruling party) may pay a price for its incompetence at the national polls next year," the newspaper said. "Yesterday Prime Minister Manmohan Singh promised that 'every perpetrator would pay the price'. Yet his Congress Party has done little more than bicker with its coalition allies over the past five years on how best to fight terrorism," the journal said.
Observing that the attacks are a reminder that India is at the top of the terror target list, the newspaper said this is because India is an easy target.

Not only are its intelligence units understaffed and lack resources, coordination among State police forces is also poor. "The country's anti-terror legal architecture is also inadequate; there is no preventive detention law, and prosecutions can take years," it said. "Wednesday's attacks should arouse Indians to better confront the terror threat, while reminding all democracies how dangerous that threat still is," it said.
In another opinion piece published by The Journal, author Sadanand Dhume blamed the Congress for scrapping the anti-terror law POTA. "On taking office in 2004, one of the first acts of the ruling Congress Party was to scrap a federal antiterrorism law that strengthened witness protection and enhanced police powers," he wrote. "The Congress Party has stalled similar state-level legislation in Gujarat, which is ruled by the opposition Hindu-nationalist Bharatiya Janata Party. And it was a Congress government that kowtowed to fundamentalist pressure and made India the first country to ban Mumbai-born Salman Rushdie's 'Satanic Verses' in 1988," he said.
Dhume, a Washington-based writer and author of "My Friend the Fanatic: Travels with an Indonesian Islamist", said the Indian approach to terrorism has been consistently haphazard and weak-kneed.

 

[devdahiya]

Humaare Haryaane me gus ke wahi kaam kare jo Kashmiri Pandito ke saath kiya... kya karoge aap?? Baithoge chup? Slow process chalane ki baat karoge???

Aap house in order ne put karan ki baat kar rahe ho?? 1947 se leke aaj tak.... kitne din hoge?? 61 saal me Kashmir ka house hogya order me put??? ye slow-process ar "time destiny" soch soch ke he issi tissi hogi mhaari...

Ye dekhna ek baar....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCRFWStxV_4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2vsztUdkpU&feature=related

Humaare Haryaane me ye hua to hi aap samjhoge... n pls dont tell me ki Haryane ke sher hai hum n all that... we never know... anything is possible tomorrow.

btw the latest is tht they've found a dozen more hostages DEAD inside one of the hotels...

Sumit i dont really understand as to what you wish me to say.Slow ka matlab kya samjhe aap? Please for God shake don't drag things in a manner to prove a point which was never there in the first place.Let me clarify once for all to you:


If some one enters my house and tries harm my family members in any way,i will not waste time in diciding(ofcourse a quick mature thought still will be applied so as to handle the issue sensibally in a flash)......here the question is of my being there and my family being targeted and hence bottom line will be to get out of that situation to the best advantage of the family with minimum losses but in the bargain if i have to get killed...i will.....because i am there and the onus of tacklling the bad situation is on me....whatever the cost.....but mind you other family members will also be doing their bit all this while and hence when the determination is complete and situation stared at me.......I will do the best i could, keeping in mind the capabilities and the purpose of the intruder.........here the bottom line will be............take best possible determined action to protect the interest of the family even if it entails your life.Here the famaly is cohessive...if some harm is seen to me in those circumstances..all my family members will be there to take recourse.Same way if we all indians can feel for each other and can have that kind of determination...then we would have done that.Golliyon ke aage Kya Jat aur Kya Bhatt..........That was a very poor example dear....it is all about the DETERMINATION coupled with maturity that will handle the situation befittingly.....fir chahe wo Jat ho ya baniya ho.

 

[vpannu]

I just have one request to the NSG team and army. If ,by any chance, they happen to see Raj Thackrey, kill that f***ing scumbag too. If these scumbags get caught dont kill them. Cut their limbs and cripple them for the whole life. Wouldn't their mothers be hanging their heads in shame? Pests of the society. Fu**ing hate these muslim c**ts. 9/11, London tube attacks, attacks in Spain, bali bombings ....oh god....is that what islam preaches? I would rather be born as dog in my next life than a muslim.

 

[cooljat]

What this bloody Govt and Security Agencies should learn from America and apply it without any delay !!

http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3766332.cms

 

[anilsangwan]

Iss Haraamkhor ko dekho... !!!

मेरे पहुंचने से पहले भाग चुके थे आतंकवादी: पाटिल
27 Nov 2008, 1631 hrs IST,नवभारत टाइम्स

नई दिल्ली : केन्द्रीय गृहमंत्री शिवराज पाटिल ने मुंबई में हुए आतंकवादी हमलों को कायरतापूर्ण कार्रवाई करार देते हुए कहा कि उनके घटनास्थल पर पहुंचने से पहले ही वहां से आतंकी भाग चुके थे।

पाटिल ने अपने मुंबई दौरे पर वहां के हालात के बारे में कैबिनेट को जानकारी दी। उन्होंने कहा कि पुलिस ने कामा हॉस्पिटल में हमला करके भाग रहे आतंकवादियों का पीछा करके उनमें से एक को मार गिराया गया , जबकि दूसरा जख्मी हो गया।

 

[anilsangwan]

चैनलों के चलते करकरे को गंवानी पड़ी अपनी ज&#23

चैनलों के चलते करकरे को गंवानी पड़ी अपनी जान?

Iss media ka bhi kuchh karna chahiye !!! Yeh log apne channel ki rating badhaney k chakkar mein desh ke baare mein nahi sochtey !!!



27 Nov 2008, 2047 hrs IST,नवभारतटाइम्स.कॉम


मुंबई : एटीएस (एंटी टेररिजम स्क्वॉड) के प्रमुख हेमंत करकरे की मौत के पीछे क्या अति उत् साही न्यूज चैनलों की भूमिका है ? यह सवाल पुलिस टीम के उनके सहयोगियों और करीबी व्यक्तियों के बीच पूछा जा रहा है।

गौरतलब है कि मुंबई में आतंकवादी हमले की सूचना मिलते ही करकरे मौके पर पहुंच गए। उन्हें मुंबई के सीएसटी स्टेशन पर आतंकवादियों की गोलीबारी की सूचना मिली थी। उनके सीएसटी स्टेशन के पास पहुंचते ही टीवी चैनलों के रिपोर्टर उनके पास पहुंच गए। टीवी कैमरों ने उन्हें हेल्मेट और बुलेटप्रूफ जैकेट पहनते भी दिखाया। टीवी पर यह भी दिखाया गया कि वह कार्रवाई के लिए टीम की अगुवाई करते आगे बढ़े।

कहा जा रहा है कि समाचार चैनलों पर प्रसारित होने की वजह से आतंकवादी भी ये सब कुछ देख रहे थे। इसीलिए उन्होंने करकरे की गर्दन को निशाना बना कर गोली चलाई। गोली ठीक निशाने पर लगी और डॉक्टरों के लिए भी उन्हें बचाना संभव नहीं हुआ। नतीजा यह कि महाराष्ट्र और देश ने एक बेहतरीन पुलिस अफसर खो दिया।

करकरे के सहयोगी बताते हैं कि मालेगांव ब्लास्ट की जांच के चलते करकरे इन दिनों चर्चा में थे और इसीलिए चैनलों ने उनसे जुड़ी छोटी-छोटी बातें भी बारीकी से दिखाईं। इसका फायदा आतंकवादियों ने उठाया और करकरे को शहीद होकर इसकी कीमत चुकानी पड़ी।

 

[nishantrathi82]

चैनलों के चलते करकरे को गंवानी पड़ी अपनी जान?

Iss media ka bhi kuchh karna chahiye !!! Yeh log apne channel ki rating badhaney k chakkar mein desh ke baare mein nahi sochtey !!!



27 Nov 2008, 2047 hrs IST,नवभारतटाइम्स.कॉम


मुंबई : एटीएस (एंटी टेररिजम स्क्वॉड) के प्रमुख हेमंत करकरे की मौत के पीछे क्या अति उत् साही न्यूज चैनलों की भूमिका है ? यह सवाल पुलिस टीम के उनके सहयोगियों और करीबी व्यक्तियों के बीच पूछा जा रहा है।

गौरतलब है कि मुंबई में आतंकवादी हमले की सूचना मिलते ही करकरे मौके पर पहुंच गए। उन्हें मुंबई के सीएसटी स्टेशन पर आतंकवादियों की गोलीबारी की सूचना मिली थी। उनके सीएसटी स्टेशन के पास पहुंचते ही टीवी चैनलों के रिपोर्टर उनके पास पहुंच गए। टीवी कैमरों ने उन्हें हेल्मेट और बुलेटप्रूफ जैकेट पहनते भी दिखाया। टीवी पर यह भी दिखाया गया कि वह कार्रवाई के लिए टीम की अगुवाई करते आगे बढ़े।

कहा जा रहा है कि समाचार चैनलों पर प्रसारित होने की वजह से आतंकवादी भी ये सब कुछ देख रहे थे। इसीलिए उन्होंने करकरे की गर्दन को निशाना बना कर गोली चलाई। गोली ठीक निशाने पर लगी और डॉक्टरों के लिए भी उन्हें बचाना संभव नहीं हुआ। नतीजा यह कि महाराष्ट्र और देश ने एक बेहतरीन पुलिस अफसर खो दिया।

करकरे के सहयोगी बताते हैं कि मालेगांव ब्लास्ट की जांच के चलते करकरे इन दिनों चर्चा में थे और इसीलिए चैनलों ने उनसे जुड़ी छोटी-छोटी बातें भी बारीकी से दिखाईं। इसका फायदा आतंकवादियों ने उठाया और करकरे को शहीद होकर इसकी कीमत चुकानी पड़ी।

Ye bhi saahe kaaha bhai Media ko bhi jayda liberty mil gaaye hai aur woh usska misuse kaar rahe hai. Lekin feer bhi Politicians ka saahe hoona jayda jaaroore hai

 

[sidchhikara]

चैनलों के चलते करकरे को गंवानी पड़ी अपनी जान?

Iss media ka bhi kuchh karna chahiye !!! Yeh log apne channel ki rating badhaney k chakkar mein desh ke baare mein nahi sochtey !!!



27 Nov 2008, 2047 hrs IST,नवभारतटाइम्स.कॉम


मुंबई : एटीएस (एंटी टेररिजम स्क्वॉड) के प्रमुख हेमंत करकरे की मौत के पीछे क्या अति उत् साही न्यूज चैनलों की भूमिका है ? यह सवाल पुलिस टीम के उनके सहयोगियों और करीबी व्यक्तियों के बीच पूछा जा रहा है।

गौरतलब है कि मुंबई में आतंकवादी हमले की सूचना मिलते ही करकरे मौके पर पहुंच गए। उन्हें मुंबई के सीएसटी स्टेशन पर आतंकवादियों की गोलीबारी की सूचना मिली थी। उनके सीएसटी स्टेशन के पास पहुंचते ही टीवी चैनलों के रिपोर्टर उनके पास पहुंच गए। टीवी कैमरों ने उन्हें हेल्मेट और बुलेटप्रूफ जैकेट पहनते भी दिखाया। टीवी पर यह भी दिखाया गया कि वह कार्रवाई के लिए टीम की अगुवाई करते आगे बढ़े।

कहा जा रहा है कि समाचार चैनलों पर प्रसारित होने की वजह से आतंकवादी भी ये सब कुछ देख रहे थे। इसीलिए उन्होंने करकरे की गर्दन को निशाना बना कर गोली चलाई। गोली ठीक निशाने पर लगी और डॉक्टरों के लिए भी उन्हें बचाना संभव नहीं हुआ। नतीजा यह कि महाराष्ट्र और देश ने एक बेहतरीन पुलिस अफसर खो दिया।

करकरे के सहयोगी बताते हैं कि मालेगांव ब्लास्ट की जांच के चलते करकरे इन दिनों चर्चा में थे और इसीलिए चैनलों ने उनसे जुड़ी छोटी-छोटी बातें भी बारीकी से दिखाईं। इसका फायदा आतंकवादियों ने उठाया और करकरे को शहीद होकर इसकी कीमत चुकानी पड़ी।

I do believe that media is very immature, but I also think that Karkare should not have gone inside with all that gunfire raging. I know he was brave and wanted to take care of the terrorists himself... but he was the intelligence chief and with him goes a lot of intelligence information.

 

[anilsangwan]

Very right Siddharth ji ! He should have worked cautiously... but seems that he wasnt aware of the seriousness of attack and number of terrorists inside and their access to media.

I seriously think that people like M*f**ker Amar Singh will try to question Karkare's bravery just to vow some muslim votes

Bullshit politicians !!!

I do believe that media is very immature, but I also think that Karkare should not have gone inside with all that gunfire raging. I know he was brave and wanted to take care of the terrorists himself... but he was the intelligence chief and with him goes a lot of intelligence information.

 

[dhakadchora]

I just know

Very right Siddharth ji ! He should have worked cautiously... but seems that he wasnt aware of the seriousness of attack and number of terrorists inside and their access to media.

I seriously think that people like M*f**ker Amar Singh will try to question Karkare's bravery just to vow some muslim votes

Bullshit politicians !!!

I just know that every muslim is not a terrorist but every terrorist is a muslim

 

[anilsangwan]

You know "theek-thaak"

I just know that every muslim is not a terrorist but every terrorist is a muslim

 

[choudharyneelam]

situations getting worst and worst every year

Financial Capital Mumbai a prime target attacked by terrorist and this is very big. Still police is doing operation and terrorist still exist in Oberoi hotel and TAj hotel. News is that they are carrying too much bullets and Ak47 and handgranedes with them. All targets like Nariman Point, Railway station, colaba, 7star hotels are prime targets.
What a nightmare for all Indians and Mumbaians. Blasts and Bullets i hope any jat there is safe but still sorry for all those who lost their lives.

Is Indian govt. still thinks that there is no need for POTA and why they are not hanging Afzal Guru these are the question, what control and information after so many attacks did Govt. applied after the attacks on so many cities. This is totally failure of Indian intelligence and i don't know wht is going on.

Abhimanyu Phougat

Why they not hanging Afzal will also create a great disturbance.....Not only the Muslims but also the Kashmiris are making their stand to keep him alive. Pata nahin use faansi milegi bhi ya nahin.

The only right decision taken by any CM could be Narendra Modi's when he gave full permissions to his people to retort back to Muslims. Though, it had a bad side again that there happened the fight between two religions, but then who ignited people for this situation.

We, the general public are suffering, Armed forces are at toes as per command/orders, huge amount(in terms of money, time, efforts, etc.) is being spent on a person to prepare an officer for the country and they leave us so easily without any fear, and these Political parties.......they are just trying to win more and more votes (the most selfish people they are)

Is there any terrorist attack on Political Parties???????? NO, they are the most safest people in the world. When I watched the news, I noticed that the leniency was there at the part of Coast Guard.....he might have taken some bribe to make the entry easy for terrorists.....BUT WHO SUPPORTED HIM TO TAKE BRIBE OR ALLOW THE UNKNOWN OR UNVERIFIED INTO THE COUNTRY?????????

What Army Jawans express about their feeling at Kashmir....ek baar hume orders with freedom mil jaayen, hum saare deshon ki nazar theek kar denge jo bhi India mein aake danga karna chahega, but they are bounded (though it is correct).

But then what for the govt. is waiting to apply POTA???????????

Our lives are not important for the Govt. but for sure our votes are.....and the whole mess is being created with this thought only.

 

[cooljat]

Sumit Bhai, more then agreed ... this spineless impotent M*F* Patil must be fired or rather thro' in front of these terrorists !!

Source: http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/nov/28mumterror-shivraj-patil-is-incompetent.htm

US intelligence expert says Patil is incompetent

Walter Andersen, a former senior Administration official, who headed up the State Department's South Asia Division of the Intelligence and Research Bureau has said the Mumbai terrorist attacks showed clearly a failure of India's intelligence and security apparatus and also the utter incompetence of Home Minister Shivraj Patil.

"Clearly there was failure here of India's intelligence and security and also the security units were slow in responding, which means that the whole system really needs to be revamped," he said. Andersen, currently associate director of the South Asia Program at Johns Hopkins University's School of Advanced International Studies, told rediff.com, "I am surprised that after several terrorist incidents, the government hasn't moved faster to get something much more effectively in place."

"You have a totally incompetent home minister, and why he isn't removed is beyond me," he said, "He really doesn't know how to get the bureaucracy organised to have some sort of coordinated planning."

Anderson noted, "And, of course, it happens on the eve of state elections and this cannot be helpful for the Congress party," and he recalled that "like in this country, the economic problem had 'many fathers' but then of course, people blamed the (Bush) Administration." He predicted that "it's likely to be the case in the Indian context as well." On the terrorist attacks, he said, it was to be expected that if would be focused on 'soft targets' as it was. "This is often the norm in terrorist targets anyway -- these soft targets. So, it is not surprising that they would have done that in this case."

"It was an extremely well coordinated and sophisticated attack and it undoubtedly had some kind of larger context. I think they were trying to send out some kind of message. People have been saying that Kashmir is the cause of it, (but) I am not sure that that is necessarily the case," he said. Andersen said, "I believe they want to make an impression that they can strike anywhere and anytime and the larger objective is not Kashmir -- the larger objective is to set off Hindu-Muslim problems in India. I think this has long been one of their objectives."

He acknowledged that in the wake of reports that the terrorists had set up control rooms in the two hotels ahead of time, showed that "this was a sophisticated, well-planned set up. This is something that takes months of planning." Andersen also said the claim of Deccan Mujahideen, like the earlier claims by Indian Mujahideen for terrorist attacks across India, was simply "an effort to show that it is domestically oriented. There maybe an element of that but now that there are reports that they apparently came from a 'mother ship' that was off the coast, and they were speaking Punjabi -- they are from Pakistan."

He acknowledged that "this could have an al Qaeda hallmark as well �well planned and that sort of thing. And, this Deccan Mujahideen is definitely a dummy organisation." Andersen said the targeting of Americans and Britishers by the terrorists was clearly because "the US is associated closely with India and it's obviously an effort to show Americans that we can strike you too." When asked if there wasn't any way the US intelligence and Indian intelligence could have had some indication considering their cooperation and the sophisticated counter-terrorism equipment and other intelligence gathering methods being used, he said, "If a person's willing to kill themselves, it's really hard to control it ahead of time." "And, in this case, they came from ashore, outside the country." But Andersen argued that more than US-India intelligence cooperation, "there probably may need to be better coordination (intelligence) between India and Pakistanon this, but up to now, the intelligence agencies haven't trusted each other sufficiently to really cooperate."

He agreed that it doesn't help that India believes that the Pakistani Inter Services Intelligence is responsible for some of the attacks since it allegedly trains and funds terrorist movements and networks operating in India. There is now apparently evidence even among US intelligence that it was the ISI that was behind the bombing several months ago of the Indian embassy in Afghanistan.

 

[rsdalal]

I know it is is not that much relative as of now, but As soon as possible, Indian Govt need to adopt a policy of NO NEGOTIATION with terrorists, otherwise I see this is going to be misused if politicians are taken hostage.

What this bloody Govt and Security Agencies should learn from America and apply it without any delay !!

http://navbharattimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/3766332.cms

 

[rsdalal]

Iss joker ne patta nahi kab tak jheelenge
I do not understand why we need these ministers for each agency ?
Why not learn do same way as in US. Only president is the one politician and rest of his team are professional who are heading all these departments, Politicians are just to make policies but they do not head any agency, just the commetese.
Look in India, Laloo some time become Char minister and some time he is the best profession in India to hear Railways. Sharad Pawar some time he is agricuture minister and sometime Defence, why not let professional handle these depts instead of these politicians.

Iss Haraamkhor ko dekho... !!!

मेरे पहुंचने से पहले भाग चुके थे आतंकवादी: पाटिल
27 Nov 2008, 1631 hrs IST,नवभारत टाइम्स

नई दिल्ली : केन्द्रीय गृहमंत्री शिवराज पाटिल ने मुंबई में हुए आतंकवादी हमलों को कायरतापूर्ण कार्रवाई करार देते हुए कहा कि उनके घटनास्थल पर पहुंचने से पहले ही वहां से आतंकी भाग चुके थे।

पाटिल ने अपने मुंबई दौरे पर वहां के हालात के बारे में कैबिनेट को जानकारी दी। उन्होंने कहा कि पुलिस ने कामा हॉस्पिटल में हमला करके भाग रहे आतंकवादियों का पीछा करके उनमें से एक को मार गिराया गया , जबकि दूसरा जख्मी हो गया।

 

[devdahiya]

Iss joker ne patta nahi kab tak jheelenge
I do not understand why we need these ministers for each agency ?
Why not learn do same way as in US. Only president is the one politician and rest of his team are professional who are heading all these departments, Politicians are just to make policies but they do not head any agency, just the commetese.
Look in India, Laloo some time become Char minister and some time he is the best profession in India to hear Railways. Sharad Pawar some time he is agricuture minister and sometime Defence, why not let professional handle these depts instead of these politicians.

Dalal saheb ferr desh ka satyanass kaisse sunischit hoga.They will take this country to gutter and themselve stink like a dead scorpio.