r u proad to be indian

[shailendra]

You mean...

u donot seem to be BBCD (british born confused dasi)

Were you saying 'Born Dasi to Confused British'???...Heh, Heh ...heh! Just having a spot of fun, my dear ol' sport 'arry!

 

[gaganjat]

Which one of us has not experienced that cold shoulder more than once when some passing by on the street Desi has just looked thru us as if were some kind of a transparent hallucination!?!... (my own favourite remedy has been to call out loudly,"Haanji kya haal hai?"...only to see them scurry away with a half baked lopsided apology of an embarassed smile)

!...

LOL Thats my way man!
Really I see them running away and showing they were not interested (actually they were tryin hard to find out)

 

[dahiyarules]

I dont think that this instructor is not proud of her roots or anything even close. She cant hide it. Everything about her is so Indian, She looks like an Indian. She talks like an Indian. She has all the generic Indian habbits which are mor egenetic than cultural. This we all live with this reality.

I think the reason for her attitude is more due to her profession and position. I have heard similar stories here. One friend told me how in a Comp. Sc. class which was full of Indians, and one Chinese, with a Chinese intructor, the instructor and the chinese student would start doing their titar-bitar. That really offended the Indian students. The stories could go on and on. The point is that its a professional organization, and not a coffee shop. The instructor is behaving in a manner thats expected of her, and trying not to offend others around her.

No offence to you, but take such things lightly. Try to put yourself in the other persons boots. There are a lot of social pressures living in foreign societies. In return ofr all the opportunities we get living over here, the least we can do is assimilate socially. I reember the other day I got a call from a member on this website. I was in the middle of a conference with some professional contacts. I really felt bad for not being able to give appropriate attention to the person, and on the top of it he was an elder. I promised him that i will call him the next day, something that just slipped off my mind. but when I remembered a few days later, I called him right away. I think he was busy then. He never called me back. I think I am to be blamed for the mess. So the motto of the story is that people dont behave intetionally, but they behave under socail pressures. And dont blame them for it.

As for visiting India after staying here for a few years, people definitely tend to keep issues like transportation, utlities and telecommunication at the back of their heads. Things that people dont even care about, living in a western society, come in front of them during their visit to India, in the form of harsh reality. You cannot be proud of dirty and unsanitized streets, jampacked with the entire food chain. Despizing bad things is as sensible as not stepping on "gobar." Even thoughI have never been back home in a while, I think I am going to be prepared for it. And am not going to make a fuss about it. After all its just going to be a few days. I would prfer to devote my entire attention to my loved ones and things I like doing there. Maybe I will freak out at the roadside eatouts and restaurants and sweetshops. There are a lot fo good things to care about, when in india, than to fuss about "gaay bhains chotth maaring on the street."

 

[sjakhars]

Well, may be this will sound little off the prob. that Shagun have but my experience today perfectly goes well with the TOPIC.
It was India Day Parade today in New York and I went there for first time. Standing there , watching diverse Indian performances on wheels, I was enjoying everything. But all of sudden, I felt I am missing something....what was that?. Yes, it was an Indian flag. I looked here and there and I saw this uncle waving 2 flags. I approached him and asked one but he gave me a mean answer saying "Oh.. you can get it anywhere" (I was like how can someone say no for it......chhoo tae ghana aaya ). But within seconds he came back and said here you go boy. I accepted that with due respect.

That's it...as soon as I holded it, it gave me a chill, a feeling never encountered before (maybe it was my first time holding it), a feeling of holding it forever and take it to places and a sense of PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN.


Without taking much of your time, I thoroughly enjoyed my day and saw a lot more patriotic people who are keeping this spirit alive.
Atlast, I bring that flag back and is part of my room now.


Rajiv
Keep the Indian spirit alive!

Thats the spirit.This experience prooving so much things and no need to elobrate.
Really Tiangaa makes feelings and emmotions like this.

Thanks Rajeev for sharing this great feeling.

 

[lucky]

great

Well, may be this will sound little off the prob. that Shagun have but my experience today perfectly goes well with the TOPIC.
It was India Day Parade today in New York and I went there for first time. Standing there , watching diverse Indian performances on wheels, I was enjoying everything. But all of sudden, I felt I am missing something....what was that?. Yes, it was an Indian flag. I looked here and there and I saw this uncle waving 2 flags. I approached him and asked one but he gave me a mean answer saying "Oh.. you can get it anywhere" (I was like how can someone say no for it......chhoo tae ghana aaya ). But within seconds he came back and said here you go boy. I accepted that with due respect.

That's it...as soon as I holded it, it gave me a chill, a feeling never encountered before (maybe it was my first time holding it), a feeling of holding it forever and take it to places and a sense of PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN.

Without taking much of your time, I thoroughly enjoyed my day and saw a lot more patriotic people who are keeping this spirit alive.
Atlast, I bring that flag back and is part of my room now.


Rajiv
Keep the Indian spirit alive!

thanks for sharing yr experice but ya after coming to canada i have become for indian. i love my country more than i did before coming here and i feel more proad that i am from the country of such a good culture.

 

[lucky]

lol

Were you saying 'Born Dasi to Confused British'???...Heh, Heh ...heh! Just having a spot of fun, my dear ol' sport 'arry!

hahahhah, ahahah that is not bad one.

 

[punia]

Indian Flag

Well, may be this will sound little off the prob. that Shagun have but my experience today perfectly goes well with the TOPIC.
It was India Day Parade today in New York and I went there for first time. Standing there , watching diverse Indian performances on wheels, I was enjoying everything. But all of sudden, I felt I am missing something....what was that?. Yes, it was an Indian flag. I looked here and there and I saw this uncle waving 2 flags. I approached him and asked one but he gave me a mean answer saying "Oh.. you can get it anywhere" (I was like how can someone say no for it......chhoo tae ghana aaya ). But within seconds he came back and said here you go boy. I accepted that with due respect.

That's it...as soon as I holded it, it gave me a chill, a feeling never encountered before (maybe it was my first time holding it), a feeling of holding it forever and take it to places and a sense of PROUD TO BE AN INDIAN.

Without taking much of your time, I thoroughly enjoyed my day and saw a lot more patriotic people who are keeping this spirit alive.
Atlast, I bring that flag back and is part of my room now.


Rajiv
Keep the Indian spirit alive!

Well I had somehow a same experience but a bit diffrent. we were in our son's class and he or rather my wife did a INDIA Project. We took all diffrent accesories from Inia but were missing big Indian flag, as I had only a small one at home. We asked all our friends but nobody was having one. Suddenly came one german women in the class and brought a real big Flag. ( She is married with one Indian and also speaks Hindi, heard about my problem and came to our rescue ) Holding this Flag in my hand gave me chill which I had already forgotten from my old days ( that time in India ) Woh.........

 

[brad]

i know of couple of cases where the hate for india was due to some reason: 1) got thrashed in police station 2) no job india after getting degree but cud come to us on H1
so, its better to understand the backgrnd from where they are comming before passing judgement. I agree there is a large grp who show dislike anything indian just to make themselves feel that they have integrated in the foreign society and get a sense of "achievement". They obviously suffer from lack of self confidence.

 

[sandeepphogat]

hi all
Inspite of all i would like to share some facts about indians...
Who is the cofounder of the Sun-Microsystems?-----Vinod Khosla
Who is the creator of Pentium chip?-----------------Vinod Dahm
Who is the third richest man in the world?-----------Aziz Premji
Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail?---------Sabeer Bhatia
Who is the president of AT & T-Bell labs?------------Arun Netravalli
Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard?------------------Rajiv Gupta
Who is the new MTD, Microsoft?---------------------Sanjay Tejwrika
Who is the CEOs, Citibank?--------------------------Victor Menezes
Rajat Gupta
Rana Talwar
some more facts ...
*38% of doctors in USA are indians
*12% scientists in USA are indians
*36% of NASA scientists are indians
*34% of Microsoftemployees are indians
*28% of IBM employees are indians
*17% of INTEL scientists are indians
*13% of XEROX employees are indians.


Say proudly, I AM AN INDIAN

 

[gaurav_malik]

Name of thread

Name of thread is r u proud to be an indian.
but disscussion most of the time is why
somebody is not proud.
Do we indians only have
culture at our disposal.nothing else?
I think indians are far more logical than
the americans.Take a small example.
Suppose there is electricity cut in
village then indian will have several
options like. 1. launching a complain
2.he will come out & check if padosia
ke light se ek nahi(he will look to change the phase
i mean will try another phase)
3.if he finds that only his own house is
out of current he will sat "re lathi lao
taar pe marni pa marni paragi" .
4."kasai transfarmer ne bhi samar de hai
ek bai to"

 

[lucky]

wow

hi all
Inspite of all i would like to share some facts about indians...
Who is the cofounder of the Sun-Microsystems?-----Vinod Khosla
Who is the creator of Pentium chip?-----------------Vinod Dahm
Who is the third richest man in the world?-----------Aziz Premji
Who is the founder and creator of Hotmail?---------Sabeer Bhatia
Who is the president of AT & T-Bell labs?------------Arun Netravalli
Who is the GM of Hewlett Packard?------------------Rajiv Gupta
Who is the new MTD, Microsoft?---------------------Sanjay Tejwrika
Who is the CEOs, Citibank?--------------------------Victor Menezes
Rajat Gupta
Rana Talwar
some more facts ...
*38% of doctors in USA are indians
*12% scientists in USA are indians
*36% of NASA scientists are indians
*34% of Microsoftemployees are indians
*28% of IBM employees are indians
*17% of INTEL scientists are indians
*13% of XEROX employees are indians.


Say proudly, I AM AN INDIAN

thank u for posting all the names. now i am going to forward to all my friends.

 

[lucky]

yeah i can say that im a proud indian as i m stuck in aust for ages but still the fresh of my india is still in my heart from past 6 yrs. still craving and longing to go to india. i have decided i will go india and refresh all those good and bad memories i have left behind. we have joined the race of money and fame but india is still there waiting for us..yeah i will always say im proud indian till i die............
love anam

i think india needs people like who do want to come back. and think about country then money. money is important but in some these years u would ahve earned lot.

 

[captmanjeet]

I know some people who are like this only.....One of my friends went to India for a month....When she came back here, I asked her abt her exp....what she told me was like this......"Oh it was horrible....so much pollution, so dirty, no light...and other things ...I will never go back there" and all.....

point to be noted : she came here only 2-3 years back...manne ya baat aaj taayin palle konya padi ke ise log aaj taain india me -e na pale bade sain...2 saal me ke unka blood configuration change ho gya ke un ne apna desh "suit" na karta eeb....Artificial, thats what they r....

shweta ji
it is not that the effect is caused by her stay in US for couple of years.The real reason is that these peaple forget there past so easily they start beliving that they have never been through all this before and more over they have CHOICE not to bear that.It happenes with us also i remember when we used to stay in chandigarh in early eighties Chandigarh never had power cuts and all that stuff.In our summer vaccations we used to go to our village aur wahan to bijli hoti hi nahin thi.Initial one week used to be fun aur uske baad nani yaad aa jati thi, yeh sooch ke wapas chandigarh jate the ki wapas nahin aana hai.All this happened because we knew that this so called suffering is only for month or so(Actually we had option to go back.... That is the key).If I knew that i will not be going in comforts of a city i am sure i would have never complained with that.

 

[brad]

what is the problem if i say india is dirty, polluted, corrupted, blash, blah, blah and blah? is it a lie? NRIs complain more bcos:
1) they have seen a less dirty and polluted city
2) they know its not magic, money or technology that keeps a city clean
3 ) they know india too can be clean

before some can complte the sentence, the genral attitude is to cut it short by saying "tere amrika mein aisa hota hoga, yahan to yahi chalta hai".
I have never heard anyone saying "how can i make by neighbourhood clean". u will always hear sarkar saaf bahi karwati.

and abt all those names of big shots listed and achievements of indians mentioned in the post, they is bcos of USA and not India.

 

[shailendra]

what is the problem if i say india is dirty, polluted, corrupted, blash, blah, blah and blah? is it a lie? NRIs complain more bcos:
1) they have seen a less dirty and polluted city
2) they know its not magic, money or technology that keeps a city clean
3 ) they know india too can be clean

before some can complte the sentence, the genral attitude is to cut it short by saying "tere amrika mein aisa hota hoga, yahan to yahi chalta hai".
I have never heard anyone saying "how can i make by neighbourhood clean". u will always hear sarkar saaf bahi karwati.

and abt all those names of big shots listed and achievements of indians mentioned in the post, they is bcos of USA and not India.

Dudiji....maana padega kae even though your response does reek of a little over the top dramatization of the Amreeka vs India achievements...(the achievements of Indians in America cannot simply be credited to the way USA is...these accomplishers have that innate quality that most Indian are born with; perseverance and dedication to what they do and are good at... meaning that they would have struck gold wherever they would have been!)

But having said that; I also feel that the initial part of your post has a lot of merit! I don't think it is BAD do discuss the shortcomings of our Nation (and hence provide food for thought to how make it better) at least in Desi circles and within us Indians!...but the moment this discussion or frowning is demonstrated outside the circle and in front of foreigners for whom our word is all that they ever need to form an opinion about our Country back home is what is absolutely and completely WRONG!
You will never find any nationality doing that; have you ever heard a Chinese or a Japanese do that in front of you?…How about a Brazilian, Colombian, Venezuelan etc. etc. (I am quoting third world countries too…just so that the equation is not lopsided!)

Per haan we Desi’s here abroad and back in India definitely need to move over from the high wagon when discussing constructive criticism within ourselves and stop passing very generalized and derogatory comments to each other like,”Kal he Amreeka aye the, aer eeb dekhho!”…

 

[dahiyasaab]

aur kuch kehne ki jarurat nahi !

Aur Dr sahab jis catgory ka aap ne aur Sagunji ne jikar kiya hae unki kya India me kami hae? You go to any such campus and witness these incidents fequently.

I want to share a little but true story with you.
This Radio Tarana I have mentioned have got Daily program for Birthday Greetings and some times while airing this program they contact the relatives of the person any where in the world and talk to them on air.

One such evening the presenper of the program contacted in Amritsar the sister of the lady who was celebrating her birthday in Auckland.

The presenter was talking in hindi and the lady from Amritsar was replying in English. Then the presenter perhaps realised that he was talking to someone in Punjab and try to converse in Tuti Phuti Punjabi. But to my surprise the lady kept talking in English.

Aur Dur jane ki jarurat nahi, kuchh log Jatland per bhi mojud hnai.
So exceptions are every where.

sidha aur sateec jawab !
aapse sehmat hoon sahab !

 

[lucky]

wow

what is the problem if i say india is dirty, polluted, corrupted, blash, blah, blah and blah? is it a lie? NRIs complain more bcos:
1) they have seen a less dirty and polluted city
2) they know its not magic, money or technology that keeps a city clean
3 ) they know india too can be clean

before some can complte the sentence, the genral attitude is to cut it short by saying "tere amrika mein aisa hota hoga, yahan to yahi chalta hai".
I have never heard anyone saying "how can i make by neighbourhood clean". u will always hear sarkar saaf bahi karwati.

and abt all those names of big shots listed and achievements of indians mentioned in the post, they is bcos of USA and not India.

u r pertty pirotic for usa.wel i want to tell u most of these people were from india educated here. so thy r indians. and if u donot like being soft i am sorry to say thn donot be roud.i have up ths topic to know people views but not to read harsh comments. i know wht is india and wht u
EXCEPT FROM A COUNTRY WHICH HAS NOT EVEN CELEBRATED 100 YEARS OF FREEDOM.WHN AMERICA GOT FREEDOM DO U KNOW WHT WAS HAPPNING THERE.THEY WERE KILLING EACH OTHER AND BLACKS.WE DONOT KILL ANY ONE FOR THIER COLOR.in thses years of freedom we have faced 3 wars. we have become 2 lasgest coutry for population.have u seen american and canadian population. and 3rd we have so good corrupted politicals.does america had.it is now wht is it today is mostly becoz of indian brains in technology.

 

[brad]

excuse, excuse and more excuse, thats all india is good for.
we dont kill for color, we have lot more options to choose from: religion, language, caste, gender, ego, politics etc etc etc.
read any inteviews with these big shot guys, the and to the Qs "Would/Could u have done it in India?" is always a big NO.
No one can survive w/o a suitable ecosystem. Ecosystem is what a country is supposed to provide and not population.

I am proud and feel lucky to be born in India, but that does not mean I am proud of everything or anthing India. I critisize bcos I care for it. I do my part and want everyone else to do there bit. Dont give excuse, dont live in past, live for the future.
Do it !

 

[shailendra]

u r pertty pirotic for usa.wel i want to tell u most of these people were from india educated here. so thy r indians. and if u donot like being soft i am sorry to say thn donot be roud.i have up ths topic to know people views but not to read harsh comments. i know wht is india and wht u
EXCEPT FROM A COUNTRY WHICH HAS NOT EVEN CELEBRATED 100 YEARS OF FREEDOM.

Quote-Unquote again:
'Per haan we Desi’s here abroad and back in India definitely need to move over from the high wagon when discussing constructive criticism within ourselves and stop passing very generalized and derogatory comments to each other like,”Kal he Amreeka aye the, aer eeb dekhho!”…'

Ps. By the way Shagun I hope you do realize that it's quite an ordeal just trying to carefully 'read' your responses sometimes?...
Please try and not use so much of text messaging kinda shorthand language, not to mention maybe doing just a quick spell check before, specially when trying to include words like 'Pirotic' (Patriotic?) or 'roud' (rude?) might be worthwhile... [I know we are all blogging here, sure!... and it's not some spelling competition after all, but what is the use if no one can make head-tail of what you write after you having obviously spent some time and energy on it???]
Look, I personally feel that it lowers the thought process presentation and puts you into a written handicap right away even when voicing some thought provoking and good responses!
Aur bhaee, agar Hindi mein likhna hai to phir Hindi sahee!!!

 

[brad]

i know wht is india and wht u
EXCEPT FROM A COUNTRY WHICH HAS NOT EVEN CELEBRATED 100 YEARS OF FREEDOM.WHN AMERICA GOT FREEDOM DO U KNOW WHT WAS HAPPNING THERE.THEY WERE KILLING EACH OTHER AND BLACKS.

when we got freedom, we too were killing each other and still killing.
do u want to keep killing till we are 100 yrs old?
why dont we learn from history and not repeate the same mistakes?
i dont have time to wait for another 50yrs, i want to see india good today.