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A part of real conversation with my Jaatni friend, who lives in a small town of Haryana:

She: my father in law dictates what I should or should not wear. For example, covering my head at my work place is a MUST! Wearing of neck jewellery is a must. According to the FIL, tradition must be maintained - it looks good.

Me: What does the FIL wear?

She: Pyjama Kurta.

Me: (Laughs) Why not a Dhoti Kurta? Tradition must be maintained, isn't it so?

She: No answer!
 
urmiladuhan said:
A part of real conversation with my Jaatni friend, who lives in a small town of Haryana:

She: my father in law dictates what I should or should not wear. For example, covering my head at my work place is a MUST! Wearing of neck jewellery is a must. According to the FIL, tradition must be maintained - it looks good.

Me: What does the FIL wear?

She: Pyjama Kurta.

Me: (Laughs) Why not a Dhoti Kurta? Tradition must be maintained, isn't it so?

She: No answer!
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She is doing job

Her father in law had given her freedom also but with limitations .
 
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upendersingh;280070]Pyjama-Kurta is also part of culture.

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What about Jean, T-Shirt and Skirt?. Should a Jat wear these outfits or not? Which dress code would you prescribe for a cultured Jat??
I think, Pyjama was not originally part of our traditional outfits. This seems to have come either from Europe or Islamic world.
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vpsingh said:
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What about Jean, T-Shirt and Skirt?. Should a Jat wear these outfits or not? Which dress code would you prescribe for a cultured Jat??
I think, Pyjama was not originally part of our traditional outfits. This seems to have come either from Europe or Islamic world.
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Wo kapda jo gaat (body) dikhane ki bajaye dhakne ka kaam kare
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vpsingh said:
What about Jean, T-Shirt and Skirt?. Should a Jat wear these outfits or not? Which dress code would you prescribe for a cultured Jat??
I think, Pyjama was not originally part of our traditional outfits. This seems to have come either from Europe or Islamic world.
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Sir ji, pyjama-kurta is supposed to be a part of Jat culture. I am not talking about jeans/t-shirt/skirt or whatever, I just meant if one wears pyjama-kurta, then he shouldn't be taken as rule breaker as he is not wearing dhoti-kurta. Upto 50-55 of age, Jats mostly don't wear dhoti-kurta, but they wear pyjama-kurta in village.

Regards
 
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There's always .. your version of story, his/her version of story and the original version of the story!


 
There are different rules for men and women and we got to accept them.
Women who dont accept these rules should not complain when they are treated like men.
 
Ditto Gunny bhai, am not advocating here male dominated society or talking like a chauvinist but I read somewhere that fundamental role of woman in family/society is as 'NOURISHER' and man's role defined as 'PROTECTOR'.

Believe it or not, but it's hard coded even in genes .. in fact, strongest of woman do crave for dominating male partner!


gaganjat said:
There are different rules for men and women and we got to accept them.
Women who dont accept these rules should not complain when they are treated like men.
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vpsingh said:
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Wo kapda jo gaat (body) dikhane ki bajaye dhakne ka kaam kare
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फेर तो भाई आपणे बड़े बूढ़े जो धोती पहनते हैं वा ठीक कोन्या क्योंकि उसमे तो आधी टांग उघाड़ी रहवैं सें I आर जब तेज हवा चाल ज्याया करै फेर तो कतई चाला पाट ज्याया करै I इसका मतलब या जीन cultured पहनावा सै I
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1) Agreed that there are different rules for men and women, and there are no issues if the two genders stick to their respective rules. However, if a woman forays into a man's world, as well as continues to be a home maker, then men should also admit that woman is twise what the man is.
2) What version is prevalent on the forum? A man's version. So, Jit, you should not be complaining. And, a man seems to have lost sheen as a "protector" in current times, while a woman continues to be a "Nourisher", and in many cases also a "Provider". Who do you think is better at maintaining the role then?

This is not a man vs woman arguement, just an acceptance that there has to be a mutual respect for each role, and not who is better. Sometimes circumstances force a role reversal, that would not mean that a man will be less of a man, or a woman will be more of a man. Just an adaptability for survival.
gaganjat said:
There are different rules for men and women and we got to accept them.
Women who dont accept these rules should not complain when they are treated like men.
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cooljat said:
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There's always .. your version of story, his/her version of story and the original version of the story!
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cooljat said:
Ditto Gunny bhai, am not advocating here male dominated society or talking like a chauvinist but I read somewhere that fundamental role of woman in family/society is as 'NOURISHER' and man's role defined as 'PROTECTOR'.
Believe it or not, but it's hard coded even in genes .. in fact, strongest of woman do crave for dominating male partner!
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upendersingh said:
Sir ji, pyjama-kurta is supposed to be a part of Jat culture. I am not talking about jeans/t-shirt/skirt or whatever, I just meant if one wears pyjama-kurta, then he shouldn't be taken as rule breaker as he is not wearing dhoti-kurta. Upto 50-55 of age, Jats mostly don't wear dhoti-kurta, but they wear pyjama-kurta in village.

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Thank you for clarification Upender. It is true that Kurta Pyjama is very popular among Jats but it is in vogue all over Northern India irrespective of caste, culture or religion. The basic reason of its popularity is the climatic conditions, its affordability and, above all, the comfort level it provides to the wearer.
 
cooljat said:
Ditto Gunny bhai, am not advocating here male dominated society or talking like a chauvinist but I read somewhere that fundamental role of woman in family/society is as 'NOURISHER' and man's role defined as 'PROTECTOR'.

Believe it or not, but it's hard coded even in genes .. in fact, strongest of woman do crave for dominating male partner!
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You are talking about the bygone era when women had to be wholly dependent on their men folks. The landscape of Gender inequality is getting leveled very fast. As for craving of women for a 'dominating' male partner is concerned, it has become a thing of the past. Today's enlightened female give a damn to today's 'fake terminators' who are still suffering from the male hangover of the 'cave era'. Most of such self-proclaimed tigers are 'fake mards' suffering from certain inferiority complexes and sense of insecurity.
 
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पहले ज़माने में लुगाई घूँघट भी काढ्या करती अर्र चुस्क्या भी न करती ......फेर लोग धीरे धीरे बहु बेटियों को पढ़ाने लग गए .......घूँघट कम होते गए ......लोगा ने सोची चलो कोए बात ना...छोरा छोरी एक सामान .....बड़े बूढ़े बोले की चलो सर पे ऐ पालू कर ल्यो ......पर इब इन ने उसमे भी तकलीफ होण लाग गी....अर्र ऊपर ते नु और कह दे है .....शर्म ते अंख्या की होया करे

पहल्यां १७-१८ साल की उम्र में ब्याह हो जाया करते .....ना ते छोरे ने आर ना छोरी ने उरेन परेन की सोचन का टेम मिल्या करता. जवानी का कीड़ा उठन ते पहलया इ शांत हो लिया करता....बालक करे आर अपने काम धंदे में मशगूल मानस .......आज ब्याह होवे २७ साल में जा क .....अर्र ऊपर ते यो टी वि ......दिमाग ख़राब कर दिया लोगां का .......एक ऐ चीज दिखे है ......एक छोरी पाछे कई का जूत बाजे है ...अर्र जिसके गेल व छोरी आखिर में जावे है ...वो छोरा कती लुगैया बरगा हो ले है उस छोरी क चक्कर में(मतलब लुगाई की बात नही काट सकता किसे आगे ) .....आर छोरी नु सोचे है इस ते बढ़िया ते वे दुसरे ऐ थे .


हर घर का अपना हिसाब किताब होया करे ........अगर इतनी इ दिक्कत है रूल्स फोलो करण में ते ....आज कल छोरा चोरी ब्याह ते पहलम मिल्या भी करे .....अपनी सारी खोल कर लिया करो .......क्यूँ किसे दुसरे घर की शांति भंग करो अपनी आजादी के लिए


म्हारे कुनबे में एक दादा कह्या करता ......ये ते मेरी सासू की पिट ती छित ती रह तो ठीक स ना ते सर पे बिठाई नही आर काम में मुत्या नही ....... आर वो नु भी कह्या करता ......लुगाई अपनी सहनशीलता से और अपने घर के काम ते आदमी का दिल जीत्या करे ......आर जब औरत की सहनशीलता ख़तम हो जा है तब ते घर का नास ऐ स
 
akshaymalik84 said:
पहले ज़माने में लुगाई घूँघट भी काढ्या करती अर्र चुस्क्या भी न करती ......फेर लोग धीरे धीरे बहु बेटियों को पढ़ाने लग गए .......घूँघट कम होते गए ......लोगा ने सोची चलो कोए बात ना...छोरा छोरी एक सामान .....बड़े बूढ़े बोले की चलो सर पे ऐ पालू कर ल्यो ......पर इब इन ने उसमे भी तकलीफ होण लाग गी....अर्र ऊपर ते नु और कह दे है .....शर्म ते अंख्या की होया करे

पहल्यां १७-१८ साल की उम्र में ब्याह हो जाया करते .....ना ते छोरे ने आर ना छोरी ने उरेन परेन की सोचन का टेम मिल्या करता. जवानी का कीड़ा उठन ते पहलया इ शांत हो लिया करता....बालक करे आर अपने काम धंदे में मशगूल मानस .......आज ब्याह होवे २७ साल में जा क .....अर्र ऊपर ते यो टी वि ......दिमाग ख़राब कर दिया लोगां का .......एक ऐ चीज दिखे है ......एक छोरी पाछे कई का जूत बाजे है ...अर्र जिसके गेल व छोरी आखिर में जावे है ...वो छोरा कती लुगैया बरगा हो ले है उस छोरी क चक्कर में(मतलब लुगाई की बात नही काट सकता किसे आगे ) .....आर छोरी नु सोचे है इस ते बढ़िया ते वे दुसरे ऐ थे .


हर घर का अपना हिसाब किताब होया करे ........अगर इतनी इ दिक्कत है रूल्स फोलो करण में ते ....आज कल छोरा चोरी ब्याह ते पहलम मिल्या भी करे .....अपनी सारी खोल कर लिया करो .......क्यूँ किसे दुसरे घर की शांति भंग करो अपनी आजादी के लिए


म्हारे कुनबे में एक दादा कह्या करता ......ये ते मेरी सासू की पिट ती छित ती रह तो ठीक स ना ते सर पे बिठाई नही आर काम में मुत्या नही ....... आर वो नु भी कह्या करता ......लुगाई अपनी सहनशीलता से और अपने घर के काम ते आदमी का दिल जीत्या करे ......आर जब औरत की सहनशीलता ख़तम हो जा है तब ते घर का नास ऐ स
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भाई उस 'पहले' ज़माने का पल्लू कदे छोडोगे या नहीं I तम नै वैसे तो चाहियें सारी चीज़ आधुनिक फैशन की पर लुगाई चाहिए तम्नै 17th शताब्दी की लाजवंती जो थारे चरण दबाती रह रात दिन दासी की तरह I जब वे बराबरी के अधिकार और social status मांगती हैं तो तम्नै वे ही लाजो चुड़ैल दीखन लाग ज्यां सें I या तो तुम अपने आप को भी उसी 17 वीं शताब्दी के परिवेश में ढालो या फेर तम अपनी अपनी अर्धांग्नी के हिसाब से ढल जाओ अगर घर की गाडी ठीक ठाक चलानी सै तो I I
 
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छोड़ ते राख्या है .......और इब क चाहो हो की आदमी लुगैया के पाँ दाबे ......आर दाबते भी होंगे क बेरा.........अपनी के नही ते किसे और की के दाबते होंगे .....के करें आधुनिक जमाना ऐ इसा है .....आधुनिकता का नाम ले के किम्मे करे जाओ.
 
Right said, VP Sir. It takes a secure man to accept and appreciate a woman. Else men, who are utterly lacking self respect or confidence outside, seem to redeem their egos at home, at the expense of their womenfolk, the easy targets. अगर औरतों ने भी ऐसे लोगों का साथ नहीं दिया, तो बेचारे ये लोग कहाँ जायेंगे?...
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You are talking about the bygone era when women had to be wholly dependent on their men folks. The landscape of Gender inequality is getting leveled very fast. As for craving of women for a 'dominating' male partner is concerned, it has become a thing of the past. Today's enlightened female give a damn to today's 'fake terminators' who are still suffering from the male hangover of the 'cave era'. Most of such self-proclaimed tigers are 'fake mards' suffering from certain inferiority complexes and sense of insecurity.
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Every family is different. Everyone behaves in a differently depending on where they live and, education, family background and bla bla bla.

What applies on A might not apply on B.

Bihar ke gaon ki anpadh ladki ko agar kaho ki tu vo sab kar sakti hai jo new-york ki ik ladki kar sakti hai ,kyoki sab barabar hai to it doesnt make sense. Does it?

Obviously same applies for guys as well in lot of situations but not as much as girls.

If a girl or a guy decides to settle down with their family they got to be really flexible and consider what others want or fu*ck relationships and live by yourself on your own terms if you cant respect the feelings of others .

I hate it when some people who thinks inside the box makes it an issue of equality. Its all about respecting people

 
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फेर तो भाई आपणे बड़े बूढ़े जो धोती पहनते हैं वा ठीक कोन्या क्योंकि उसमे तो आधी टांग उघाड़ी रहवैं सें I आर जब तेज हवा चाल ज्याया करै फेर तो कतई चाला पाट ज्याया करै I इसका मतलब या जीन cultured पहनावा सै I
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Waise isiliye dhoti out of fashion ho gayi



:)Bade dhotiya mein jhanko ho ji:)
 
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