Sena me har 10va jawan haryana ka

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I recently attended my younger brother's passing out parade at INA, Ezhimala and I was witness to the presence of many Jats in the officer's academy. Names like Dahiya, Rana, Chillar caught my attention on the leader boards of cadet squadrons. :)

On the flip side, the presence of Jatts from Punjab is steadily declining. My brother and another, Sangha were the only two. But I guess the Haryanvi Jats are still keeping the Jat flag flying high at our armed forces academies.
 
I recently attended my younger brother's passing out parade at INA, Ezhimala and I was witness to the presence of many Jats in the officer's academy. Names like Dahiya, Rana, Chillar caught my attention on the leader boards of cadet squadrons. :)

On the flip side, the presence of Jatts from Punjab is steadily declining. My brother and another, Sangha were the only two. But I guess the Haryanvi Jats are still keeping the Jat flag flying high at our armed forces academies.

Greetings for your brother's graduation!

Sikh Jatts equally dominated Jwan as well as Officer circles where as Haryanavi jats were primarily at jwan level. Now with education and exposure they are starting to show up in officer's cadre as well. Yes there is declining trend in officers but I think Jatt jwans are same or more.
 
Greetings!

But.........people at officer level are mostly failure(in my opinion)..........Mostly belief in self.......

Desh........kiska hai aaj k din?????
 
Greetings for your brother's graduation!

Sikh Jatts equally dominated Jwan as well as Officer circles where as Haryanavi jats were primarily at jwan level. Now with education and exposure they are starting to show up in officer's cadre as well. Yes there is declining trend in officers but I think Jatt jwans are same or more.

I agree, education has indeed made more and more Haryanvi Jats join the officer cadre directly.

I think both jawan and officer numbers for Jatts have gone down and it has been a downhill slide since the 80s. A number of factors - rise in militancy, greater agricultural prosperity, and foreign immigration waves, came together in that period and led to lesser Jatts joining the armed forces. I dont have any data to back this up and I am speaking purely from an empirical perspective having had many officer and non-officers members of my family.


P.S. Thank you for your wishes. The whole family is very proud of him.
 
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Greetings!

But.........people at officer level are mostly failure(in my opinion)..........Mostly belief in self.......

Desh........kiska hai aaj k din?????

You could be right, but its tough to say for sure. Many of the army officers I know are intelligent people who could have easily made a living doing a regular corporate job if they wished to do so. They chose to join the Armed Forces probably not for their extra love for the country, but the sense of discipline, camaraderie and honor that an officer's job brings.

On a lighter note, many ex-aspirants (now officers) still say that the armed forces don't wan't 'overly intelligent' people (IIT kind bookworms I guess), as at the end of the day an overly intelligent and analytical mind wont be inclined to follow orders blindly as indeed sometimes required!
 
You could be right, but its tough to say for sure. Many of the army officers I know are intelligent people who could have easily made a living doing a regular corporate job if they wished to do so. They chose to join the Armed Forces probably not for their extra love for the country, but the sense of discipline, camaraderie and honor that an officer's job brings.

On a lighter note, many ex-aspirants (now officers) still say that the armed forces don't wan't 'overly intelligent' people (IIT kind bookworms I guess), as at the end of the day an overly intelligent and analytical mind wont be inclined to follow orders blindly as indeed sometimes required!

Swaich,

There is no death of talent however such talent get wasted due to inefficiencies in the system. Our bureaucracy is missing a culture of continous reforms and restructure. Most of the top notch don't want to take a risk of changing system as per the needs. Also political leadership has least will to change the system on a regular basis based upon the requirements. Leadership has no guts to ammend the system. That could be because of vested interests and fear of loosing power and backlash.
 
Greetings for your brother's graduation!

Sikh Jatts equally dominated Jwan as well as Officer circles where as Haryanavi jats were primarily at jwan level. Now with education and exposure they are starting to show up in officer's cadre as well. Yes there is declining trend in officers but I think Jatt jwans are same or more.

More and more kids should join the army at officer level as well, but they should never forget their humble beginnings. For joining process children must be prepared from early age through good mental upbringing. With the changes in society, economics, family values, family structures etc. future kids are going to face a tough, unpredictable future and society, therefore, the only way "Jat Kids" can succeed in future is through strong family upbringing. Breaking up of families, family feuds, non communication of families will make the case more worse and "Future Jat kids" will fall pray to bad elements and habits of society. What ever, i have said is not a one man´s work, rather a cooperative effort of each individual member of the "Jatt community".

It is for each member of the community to support the cause otherwise, the sacrifices of our soldiers, ancestors and farmers will go waste and will be washed away by the passage of time.
 
I think we need to have a new look at this opinion, now a days many Jats are serving officers in Military and Paramilitary forces and barring a few (which is common with all Kaums) all are doing very well, the disturbing trend is that Jats are not in the habit of accepting/receiving orders from feloow Jat officers, hence they sometimes prove to be failure
 
I think we need to have a new look at this opinion, now a days many Jats are serving officers in Military and Paramilitary forces and barring a few (which is common with all Kaums) all are doing very well, the disturbing trend is that Jats are not in the habit of accepting/receiving orders from feloow Jat officers, hence they sometimes prove to be failure

I think "Jats" should never forget the "motto" for which their ancestors stood for and were later called "Chaudhary" because of their deeds.

The motto is written at the core of "Jat Regiment".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jat_Regiment

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[TR]
[TH]Motto[/TH]
[TD]Sangathan Va Veerta (Unity And Valour)[/TD]
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[/TABLE]


and we should never forget the innumerable soldiers who shed their blood with the following :

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[TR]
[TH]War Cry[/TH]
[TD]Jat Balwan, Jai Bhagwan (The Jat is powerful, Victory to god!)[/TD]
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[/TABLE]

God for a Jat has never been in the form of statues (Murti) or as dictated by any religion. God for a Jat has always been " Justice, Action, Truth" and of course "Duty and Work".
 
You could be right, but its tough to say for sure. Many of the army officers I know are intelligent people who could have easily made a living doing a regular corporate job if they wished to do so. They chose to join the Armed Forces probably not for their extra love for the country, but the sense of discipline, camaraderie and honor that an officer's job brings.

On a lighter note, many ex-aspirants (now officers) still say that the armed forces don't wan't 'overly intelligent' people (IIT kind bookworms I guess), as at the end of the day an overly intelligent and analytical mind wont be inclined to follow orders blindly as indeed sometimes required!

Yeah........Most of them take early retirement and work for corporates.
 
Greetings and Salute to Lt Suhag and all other Jat officers graduated with flying colours. Jat always proved their mettle in Army and Sports and its heartening to see new generation also keeping up the heritage. I second with Samar that Jats from Haryana and Rajasthan are mostly in Jawans and JCO circle however trend has been changing lately and more and more Jat officers are showing up. Jat officers gel well with Jawans and they prove to be better leader.

A good example is our very own Jatlander Mukesh Samota who's become famous as 'Paan Singh Tomar' in his circle and regiment. He broke national record of 40Km run with weights by 20 min in Ghatak commando course earlier this year. He finished the race in 4 Hr 10 Min which is a new record and to add it was rare scene to win this difficult race by an officer.

I posted this thread when he got selected for OTA in 2010 - http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?30159-Making-of-a-True-Soldier-an-inspiring-true-story-!!


Jat is always ahead .. Jat Balwan - Jai Bhagwan !


Cheers
Jit
 
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