Sher-e-Dilli Sajjan Kumar hit by Intra Party Rivalry

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aap loggon ko jaankar dukh hoga ki sajjan bauji ki ticket katney sei dilli key jatton ki parliament mei abb khattam si ho gayi hai, chahe phir yoganand shastri ji jeet hi jaaye par woh baat nahi rahegi kyunki sajjan bauji is a seasoned parliamentarien and had was counted in senior most congress leaders.

as in other threads where we discussed about parvesh, 2 of the 3 seats of outer delhi have gone to non jats, one of those has sadly gone to a bihari, only hope was from this seat but what to say now ..............

this is a big blow to us for a long time to come and FYI delhi jats are way too much disappointed first parvesh and now this /////
 
Bhai Jitender, Gujrat Riots are NATIONAL SHAME and Modi is the one who initiated and main culprit behind this ! Usne laasho ke upar beth ke development kara diya to kya achha kar diya?

Example dene se galat sahi nahi ho jata ! Both are criminals and they should be punished for their crimes !

Btw, that's the irony here ... democracy is still immature here in India n uneducated janta choose wrong leaders!

Thats why I hate politics, this dirty politics like anything !!



jitender_singh said:
Bhai.. tumhare hisaab se toh narendar modi bhi criminal hai.. usko bhi gaansi pe chada dena chahiye..
but remeber he is one of the most popular leader in india..
koi bhi opinion poll uthakar dekh lena..
accused toh aur bhi congress leader hain woh kyon lad rahe hain election..??
gujrat ke riots dikhayee dete hain sab so cealled secular partiyon ko..
godhra main kya hua kisi ko nahee dikhayee deta..?

bhai dekh buree lage ya bhali.. mujhey toh sabse pehle apne jat community kid evelopment dikhti hai ..jaaton ka bhala ho gaya toh desh ka apne aap ho jaayega..
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Jite aisa hai NDTV thoda kam dekha karo..
NDTV hi sabse jyaada uchalne main laga rehta hai gujrat riots ko..
kashmir main kyaa ho raha hai yeh anhee deekhta inko..
poori koshish ki modi election na jeet paaye..fer bhi public ne jeeta hi diya modi ko..

agar gujarat main development nahee hotee toh modi dobara nahee jeetta..

yeh ndtv waale varun gandhi ke peeche haath dho ke pade hue the..
ab wahee smilar comments AP ke ek congres sminister ne diye aur lalu ne bhi bahut kuch kaha..
par ab koi baat nahee..

criminal toh aur log bhi hain YSR satyam waale raju se 300 crore kha gaya.. kuch hua uska??? ap ka sabse bada gunda hai woh..








cooljat said:
Bhai Jitender, Gujrat Riots are NATIONAL SHAME and Modi is the one who initiated and main culprit behind this ! Usne laasho ke upar beth ke development kara diya to kya achha kar diya?

Example dene se galat sahi nahi ho jata ! Both are criminals and they should be punished for their crimes !

Btw, that's the irony here ... democracy is still immature here in India n uneducated janta choose wrong leaders!

Thats why I hate politics, this dirty politics like anything !!
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Sajjan Kumar is No Sher by leading a Mob of 1500 people against 10 0r 15people.He may be a Leader of some areas of Delhi Suba but not of all Jats. There is always a Smoke with a Fire. There has to be reason why he is named as one of the Accused. Witness has identified him.
 
Sher - e - Dilli ..... Key sher aale kaam kar diye?
Fauj mein bharti hoke border pe lad raha se jo Sher - e - Dilli bula raha se ihne?
Bloody dirty politician ... just like Sheila DikSHIT, Sonia Gandhi, Varun Gandhi, Lalloo, Mayawati.
Call him Sher -e -Bull$hit or nauker - e -Sonia Gandhi.
 
sidchhikara said:
Sher - e - Dilli ..... Key sher aale kaam kar diye?
Fauj mein bharti hoke border pe lad raha se jo Sher - e - Dilli bula raha se ihne?
Bloody dirty politician ... just like Sheila DikSHIT, Sonia Gandhi, Varun Gandhi, Lalloo, Mayawati.
Call him Sher -e -Bull$hit or nauker - e -Sonia Gandhi.
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agreed, but i presume that if that is your scale then there's not even a single good politician. we are not discussing weather he should be called sher - ae - dil or not, the discussion is about the concern towards a senior jat leader and the current status of Jats in active delhi politics
 
ram said:
Sajjan Kumar is No Sher by leading a Mob of 1500 people against 10 0r 15people.He may be a Leader of some areas of Delhi Suba but not of all Jats. There is always a Smoke with a Fire. There has to be reason why he is named as one of the Accused. Witness has identified him.
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kya apney 1500 loggon ko lead kartey hue apni aankhon sei dekkha tha ? agar haan tou please aek acchhey indian honey key nattey affidavit daal dou na court mei

witness identification is not what the court's final verdict is based upon, it has to be proven also my dear :)
 
ram said:
.He may be a Leader of some areas of Delhi Suba but not of all Jats....
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To the best of my political knowledge he equals or supersedes even Ch. B. S. Huda as far as his name in the party goes, now you decide, in that case we do not have a single Jat representator, and deepender is too young to be called a jat leader, can you think of any other name apart from his when it comes to talk about a senior jat parliamentarion

leave apart Ch. Ajit Singh for reasons best known to all of us here
 
I think it is better that he has been side lined. Side lined he was, despite having won elections so many time, he could have asked for atleast a MoS portfolio. Forget ministry, area of his influence - somewhat i would say - was only confined to MCD elections. Overall he had been a poor leader with no sense of politics. Outer Delhi before delimitation had tremendous clout and a similar leader under similar circumstances could extract CM throne. Whereas he could not be heard beyond Dwarka. Overall i would rate him low with missing appeal to an educated Jat, rather i would consider it an opportunity for Jat youth to come out from the shadow of his.

Regards,
 
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rameshlakra said:
I think it is better that he has been side lined. Side lined he was, despite having won elections so many time, he could have asked for atleast a MoS portfolio. Forget ministry, area of his influence - somewhat i would say - was only confined to MCD elections. Overall he had been a poor leader with no sense of politics. Outer Delhi before delimitation had tremendous clout and a similar leader under similar circumstances could extract CM throne. Whereas he could not be heard beyond Dwarka. Overall i would rate him low with missing appeal to an educated Jat, rather i would consider it an opportunity for Jat youth to come out from the shadow of his.

Regards,
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Sahi keha aapne.
 
trueblueindian said:
To the best of my political knowledge he equals or supersedes even Ch. B. S. Huda as far as his name in the party goes, now you decide, in that case we do not have a single Jat representator, and deepender is too young to be called a jat leader, can you think of any other name apart from his when it comes to talk about a senior jat parliamentarion

leave apart Ch. Ajit Singh for reasons best known to all of us here
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I do not want to part of this unreasonable discussion any more. I don't know how old some of you people were at that time but I was a Captain in Indian Army during that time and posted very close to Delhi. Some of my Army Course mates were in Delhi. So I know What exactly happnded.
 
Hi Friends

by nature "i think" i am pro BJP

but i had voted for sh. Sajjan Kumar also.

Now he is not consider to be the JAT leaders here in Delhi although he is more on the side of a leader of jhuggi jhopdi (JJ Colony) colony
earlier area like Mangol Puri,SultanPuri,MadiPur JJ Clny were his main strong hold And ch. Sahib Singh Verma used to be the leader of rural area including JAT.

As far as the need of Senior JAT parlimentarian is concern do we need some senior member or we need some one serious towards JATS this we have to decide and keep this in mind that delimitation has not left any seat except Bijnor(earlier a reserve constituencey) which can be win on purely JATS vote although JATS can effect the results of many many infact too many seats in Indian Parliment but again the question is taking for granted as it has been done by most of the party.

Once i heared this thing that no JAT can ever be the supreme chief of Indian army same way they wont allow unity amongs JATS because Jat have an history of changing the coming history and they can do it thats why they " "




i think my post is still not complete

vijay
 
No Jat can be Chief of the Armed forces is a big farce. The same farce used to be prevalent for Sikhs till the time one them proved it wrong (Gen JJ Singh). The selection criteria till the rank of Vice Admiral, Lt General and Air Vice Marshal is based on one's merit and thereafter it is time-and-space which automatically decides who is going to be the Chief based on the date of retirement of the incumbent and senior most second-in-line officer at that time. This second in line to be chief criteria has never been disturbed, unless in extreme cases. Would be Chiefs are known even for next three waiting positions.

Regards,
 
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Interesting discussion!!!

Dear Friends,
It is an interesting discussion going on. Based on my views on the subject, you would alraedy know my stand on this issue.
To me, it is a political move, but the fact of the matter is "Do Jagdish Tytler and Mr. Sajjan Kumar" should be representing any one in the parliament? By the way, they are not alone, who have some kind of criminal back ground, be it 84 Riots or some thing else. To me Md. Azharuddin, Mr. Sanjay Dutt and so on, should not be even considered for contesting elections till the time they are cleared of all the charges against them.
Again, we blame every one else for castism, and politics of religion. What are we propogating here. Why can't we have a leader who represents all sects of the society of his constituency. Why can't issues be the main subject of voting?
It was interesting to read the article about Indian Democracy. 35% people are young voters, do we have 35% young people contesting elections. These Old horses are tired of ideas, and probably can't keep pace with the time. Experience is a good thing, but of what? Politics of Castism and religion or knowledge of world economy, international relations, governance, and capability of adminsitration.
Let us change our thinking and come out of the hole of Caste base politics. The world is much better then.
Leadership of Juggi Jhopri is another scar in our social shystem. Who brings them, why they bring them, why they make them settle in your parks, are the issues we should be asking them. Do we know that these so called leaders make money from Juggi Jhopri walas by giving your community land to them for building these Jhuggis.
 
ram said:
I do not want to part of this unreasonable discussion any more. I don't know how old some of you people were at that time but I was a Captain in Indian Army during that time and posted very close to Delhi. Some of my Army Course mates were in Delhi. So I know What exactly happnded.
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if you did not want to be part of discussion anymore then you should have at least left no further comments, that's common sense to all now back to ur reply -

dear why are they hiding behind the lines and educating people like you about the massacre, if anything at all happened then one should come up and place himself before the law so that the justice is delivered, if i were in your place i would never believe the words of such cowards and then post the views on a public platform, it is a free country you can say anything about anybody, tarnish the image without any worry and get away with the same easily, but morally we should avoid commenting so seriously about an individual and that too when he/she is our own brother/blood

i/we may not be as old as you are, but for sure i "can" be more politically aware/connected than you, and i hope u get what i wanted to convey
 
raj2rif said:
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sir agreed, but let me tell you the sorry state of delhi jat today

we are feeling highly neglected by both BJP & Congress
we have been sidelined from main line politics
no ones seems to be caring for the jat factor anymore
the feeling is more like - jatton ka dilli mei aek tarah sei wajood hi khatam hogaya

is it sufficient to be disturbed ??? or we need more ?? more depressing is the fact that our own brothers are not understanding this fact and are using their free will to criticize ..... its actually bad
 
well another piece of authantic rumor doing round in top level politics is that the current state of jat politicians is due to sheila aunty ji, the one we have praised a lot here, if we go into depth there are substantial reasons to belive the same, will eleborate it in due course if time though
 
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