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Anti-Naxal ops: Govt planning redeployment of central forces

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ent-of-central-forces/articleshow/6116058.cms

NEW DELHI: In the wake of repeated attacks by Maoists on CRPF, the government is working out a plan for the redeployment of paramilitary forces engaged in anti-Naxal operations in states.

A plan is being worked out for reconfiguration, redeployment and strengthening of the paramilitary forces in Chhattisgarh, Jharkhand, Orissa and West Bengal phasewise in consultation with the state governments.

"It has become necessary to review the deployment of forces and a suitable decision will be taken according to the operational requirement and developmental reasons," a home ministry official said.

However, no central forces deployed in a particular state will be moved out from that state.

According to the plan, which will be implemented first in Chhattisgarh where CRPF has faced maximum casualties in the recent past, the distances of troop posts will be reduced and in some cases the number of personnel will be increased while in other cases the posts will be relocated.

After Chhattisgarh, the plan will be implemented in Jharkhand, Orissa and West Bengal.

Home minister P Chidambaram had on Wednesday said that "relocation and reconfiguration" of paramilitary forces in Chhattisgarh may be required as some of them were not operationally viable.

"These deployments have been made in 2007 and 2008. So, I have asked the Chhattisgarh government to examine the deployments in 2010," he had said.

It is good that govt has realised the need of improving the state of the force, beside we have discussed earlier, I think the govt should improve following immediately as far as the CRPF is concern
a) No IPS Officer be posted to the force, initially Army ( INFANTRY Officers) should take the responsibility of heading the organisation & subsiquently officers from the force itself be given the command of the CRPF.
B) THE THINKING, CULTURE, TRAINING, WEAPONS, COMMUNICATION SYSTEM, INTELLIGENCE SYSTEM, LIAISION WITH CIVIL ADMINISTRATION, FREEDOM OF ACTION WITH REQUIRED LEGAL POWERS & OFCOURSE RESPONSIBILITY OF ACTION, NEEDS LOT OF IMPROVEMENT.
 
Agree with you on the pro and cons. Some (not all) of the princely states were no better then British.



The govement should first focus on the governance. Give the triables rights to their land and forest. Stop illegal minings. Make tribals a stakeholder in the forest resources, mines and dams. Ensure their fundamental rights re not voilated. Give more powers to the local bodies of the triables. There are lots of things that can be done without money also. What is needed is intent. Without the proper governance in place, the monetary package is just another trick to fool people and pocket most of the money.

I dont think there is any problem with governance. India is world's largest democracy. Why tribals need stakes in the forest resources, mines. Do you think their fundamental rights are voilated. Don't they have reservation in jobs? Why would they need power? Don't we have elected panchayats to govern the system. What Governance panchayat provides? Why panchayats were introduced?
 

They already have control over the state and enjoying their exploit .. Why would they raise war against the state?
NO they don't have control over the state,State is controlled by govt, at most they are influencing the same...If they would have controled the state, Anil ambani ka Dadri plant na latakta!!!!

Nope. There are enough statistics available to show that over the years, in general, rich have become richer and poor have become poorer. When a child is born, he/she should have equal opportunities in the world. The rest of life's journey may dependent upon the path that one chooses. However, at the beginning, all should have the same starting point.
Ya i agree that social unequality is present.But it is present in every society.Do they stop the govt bring social equality???? In fact they are creating Jobs for all sections of the society i.e. skilled & unskilled workers.They do there share of coorporate social resp .... see tatanagar is one of the best town in country developed by TAta's.Of course they can do more....I think many of us would not have been employed if everything was controlled & done by govt,,Hal jaut rahe hoote apne apne kheta mein....

See where we were in 90 , where we are now......if i can recollect 89 mein gold bhi girwi rakhna pada tha govt ko.


Of course people invest to make money.So what if they are making money!!!So many enterprenurs have came up & doing well...


Nope, Most of this is black money and is either spent lavishly, (endangering the life on this plant) or stacked outside the country.
Dont they give tax to govt???? Black money is present even in socialist economies also.
...because of the illusions of the disillusioned society.
Who stops society to be enlightened????
May be, may be not. I don’t know. I do not even consider myself as an ideologist.

Well it was my observation that u have leftist mindset, it is for you to decide whether you are leftist, centrist , rightist OR no idealogist.....
 
Chalo ek toh mara...Hope many more to come!!!!

Top Maoist leader gunned down in Andhra Pradesh

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...own-in-Andhra-Pradesh/articleshow/6118592.cms


HYDERABAD: In a major blow to the Maoists, their top leader and spokesperson Cherukuri Rajkumar alias Azad was killed in a gunfight with police in Andhra Pradesh Friday, police claimed.

The shootout took place near Jogapur in Adilabad district, about 300 km from here.

Another Maoist guerrilla, who is yet to be identified, was also killed. Police also recovered an AK-47, a 9mm pistol and two kit bags from the scene of the gunfight.

Azad, who carried a reward of Rs.12 lakh on his head, was a member of the central committee of the outlawed Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist). Hailing from Krishna district, he was associated with the Maoist movement for four decades.

Following the killing of Azad, security agencies have sounded a high alert in Andhra Pradesh, Orissa, Chhatttisgarh, Madhya Pradesh, Jharkhand and West Bengal.

Azad was gunned down by police two days after Maoists killed 27 Central Reserve Police Force (CRPF) personnel in Chhattisgarh.
 
If you take a step back, and take a look at the picture, you will find that the names of the 'naxals' , ' maoists' are not foreign or islmaic fundmentalists.

They are hindu.

The question people should be asking themselves, is why are Hindus taking up arms against their nation ?

Why are ordinary citizens taking up arms?

If that is not addressed, we will, not may, will see the problem grow.

Ravi Chaudhary
 
If you take a step back, and take a look at the picture, you will find that the names of the 'naxals' , ' maoists' are not foreign or islmaic fundmentalists.

They are those people who don't want to come to Punjab, Haryana, Delhi or Mumbai to work hard and paved better future for their kids. Majority of places have acute shortage of unskilled labour.

They are hindu.

The question people should be asking themselves, is why are Hindus taking up arms against their nation ?

Misguided youth and they are finding it easy to raise arms for struggle because law and order situation is so week and they know that they can't be harmed or killed.

Why are ordinary citizens taking up arms?

Lack governance and sign of failed state and people are not willing to take extra step.

If that is not addressed, we will, not may, will see the problem grow.

It has to addressed by using big guns and polite words.

Ravi Chaudhary

My 2 Cents
 
Well it was my observation that u have leftist mindset, it is for you to decide whether you are leftist, centrist , rightist OR no idealogist.....

The Indian Maoists have been at loggerheads with the mainstream leftist parties (CPM & CPI) and have been kidnapping and killing their cadre too. They are blind followers of the Maoist dogmas on behest of the powers inimical to India. May be in the past the troubled areas have been neglected, but now Government seems to be all sincere to resolve the problem and for development of the area. A chance should be given to peace otherwise the tribals will be missing the bus. LTTE saga may be replicated on the Indian soil if the situation is mis-handled by both the parties (govt. as well as militants). Hope good sense will dawn upon the comrades. The tragedy is that in both the camps it is only the proletariat who is bearing the brunt of this mindless movement. By killing poor CRPF guys, the Maoists are neither annihilating the "Bourgeoisie" nor their "capitalism". Similarly, it is the poor Adivasis who are taking the bullets and not the leadership. However, today one leader in Andhara has been killed after 20 years of his operation.
 
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The Indian Maoists have been at loggerheads with the mainstream leftist parties (CPM & CPI) and have been kidnapping and killing their cadre too. They are blind followers of the Maoist dogmas on behest of the powers inimical to India. May be in the past the troubled areas have been neglected, but now Government seems to be all sincere to resolve the problem and for development of the area. A chance should be given to peace otherwise the tribals will be missing the bus. LTTE saga may be replicated on the Indian soil if the situation is mis-handled by both the parties (govt. as well as militants). Hope good sense will dawn upon the comrades. The tragedy is that in both the camps it is only the proletariat who is bearing the brunt of this mindless movement. By killing poor CRPF guys, the Maoists are neither annihilating the "Bourgeoisie" nor their "capitalism". Similarly, it is the poor Adivasis who are taking the bullets and not the leadership. However, today one leader in Andhara has been killed after 20 years of his operation.


The sincerity of the government is just eyewash. It has announced an economic package (money) and not the reforms which are fundamental and core of the issue. The money, whose large chunk would be eaten by the greedy in the line of authority and the left over, would be used for the lobbyist interests.

Money is not an answer to all the problems. However, money is the cause of almost all problems.
 
The Trophies Of Operation Green Hunt -When rape is routine & there’s a paucity of..

The Trophies Of Operation Green Hunt
When rape is routine and there’s a paucity of condemning voices
Nandini Sundar

Link: - http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?265964 - Also worth reading are the comments from the public

If the security forces can treat dead women like hunting trophies, not only trussing their bodies to poles, but taking pride in displaying their kill, is it surprising that their behaviour towards the living is so atrocious? After every deadly attack by the Maoists, ‘civil society actors’ are summoned by TV channels to condemn the incident, substituting moral indignation for news analysis. And yet, the same media is strangely silent on police or paramilitary atrocities against civilians. On June 9, The Hindu published stories of rapes in and around Chintalnar in Dantewada by special police officers (SPOs) of the Chhattisgarh government. To my knowledge, no one’s asked P. Chidambaram, Raman Singh or the Chhattisgarh DGP to condemn these incidents or even asked what they are going to do about it. These are people in positions of power, who are elected or paid to uphold the Constitution, and the ‘buck stops with them’, not with ordinary citizens.
If channels can run all-day programmes on justice for Ruchika Girhotra, why not for the adivasi girls who were raped and assaulted in and around Chintalnar between May 26-28? Is it because they are not middle class and their plight will not raise TRP ratings? Or because they are considered ‘collateral damage’ in the war between “India” and the “Maoists”—who, not being part of “India”, are presumably from outer space—that TV commentators advocate?
While rape is often described as a weapon of war, it is not uniformly practised, and indeed nothing distinguishes the two parties in a guerrilla war more than their attitude to rape. In her careful analysis of sexual violence during civil war, the political scientist Elizabeth Woods points out that while it was common in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Rwanda and Sierra Leone, sexual assault was less frequent in El Salvador, Sri Lanka and Peru. In the latter cases, the vast majority of rapes were committed by the government or paramilitaries, this also being a primary reason why women were motivated to join the insurgents. The rebel armies—who carried out other violent acts, including the killing of civilians—almost never committed sexual violence, including against female combatants in their own ranks. In Mizoram, women recalling the regrouping and search operations of the 1960s described only rapes by Indian soldiers and none by the Mizo National Front. One said to me, “It is as if the vai (outsider) army was hungry for women.” Today, despite government claims that the Maoists sexually exploit young women, the distinction between insurgent and counter-insurgent is clear for the women of Dantewada. They are safe from one army (the PLGA) but not from the other (the Indian paramilitary and SPOs/police). And in any war to win hearts and minds (‘WHAM’), surely this is not an unimportant distinction.
 
Maoists vow to avenge Azad's killing

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Maoists-vow-to-avenge-Azads-killing/articleshow/6127298.cms

HYDERABAD: The CPI (Maoist) on Sunday vowed to avenge the death of its top leader Cherukuri Rajkumar alias Azad in an encounter with police in Adilabad district of Andhra Pradesh.

"Azad was murdered brutally by Intelligence Bureau of the Central Government and Special Intelligence Bureau (SIB) of Andhra Pradesh with complete knowledge of Union home minister P Chidambaram," a statement issued by the CPI (Maoist) said.

Hailing Azad, it said he has become the "mind and soul of Indian revolution through his consistent and efficient work" and vowed to avenge his death.

Azad, a senior member of CPI (Maoist) Central Committee as well as its spokesman, was killed along with another suspected Naxalite on July 2.

Azad, who carried a reward of Rs 12 lakh on his head, was allegedly involved in attempts on the lives of two former Andhra chief ministers N Chandrababu Naidu and N Janardhan Reddy.
 
The Trophies Of Operation Green Hunt
When rape is routine and there’s a paucity of condemning voices
Nandini Sundar

Link: - http://www.outlookindia.com/article.aspx?265964 - Also worth reading are the comments from the public

If the security forces can treat dead women like hunting trophies, not only trussing their bodies to poles, but taking pride in displaying their kill, is it surprising that their behaviour towards the living is so atrocious? After every deadly attack by the Maoists, ‘civil society actors’ are summoned by TV channels to condemn the incident, substituting moral indignation for news analysis. And yet, the same media is strangely silent on police or paramilitary atrocities against civilians. On June 9, The Hindu published stories of rapes in and around Chintalnar in Dantewada by special police officers (SPOs) of the Chhattisgarh government. To my knowledge, no one’s asked P. Chidambaram, Raman Singh or the Chhattisgarh DGP to condemn these incidents or even asked what they are going to do about it. These are people in positions of power, who are elected or paid to uphold the Constitution, and the ‘buck stops with them’, not with ordinary citizens.
If channels can run all-day programmes on justice for Ruchika Girhotra, why not for the adivasi girls who were raped and assaulted in and around Chintalnar between May 26-28? Is it because they are not middle class and their plight will not raise TRP ratings? Or because they are considered ‘collateral damage’ in the war between “India” and the “Maoists”—who, not being part of “India”, are presumably from outer space—that TV commentators advocate?
While rape is often described as a weapon of war, it is not uniformly practised, and indeed nothing distinguishes the two parties in a guerrilla war more than their attitude to rape. In her careful analysis of sexual violence during civil war, the political scientist Elizabeth Woods points out that while it was common in Bosnia-Herzegovina, Rwanda and Sierra Leone, sexual assault was less frequent in El Salvador, Sri Lanka and Peru. In the latter cases, the vast majority of rapes were committed by the government or paramilitaries, this also being a primary reason why women were motivated to join the insurgents. The rebel armies—who carried out other violent acts, including the killing of civilians—almost never committed sexual violence, including against female combatants in their own ranks. In Mizoram, women recalling the regrouping and search operations of the 1960s described only rapes by Indian soldiers and none by the Mizo National Front. One said to me, “It is as if the vai (outsider) army was hungry for women.” Today, despite government claims that the Maoists sexually exploit young women, the distinction between insurgent and counter-insurgent is clear for the women of Dantewada. They are safe from one army (the PLGA) but not from the other (the Indian paramilitary and SPOs/police). And in any war to win hearts and minds (‘WHAM’), surely this is not an unimportant distinction.

Atrocity on women whether by Security forces or Maoists is highly condemnable ....but our tribal brother are just a mean used by Maoist to reach their ultimate objective i.e. to capture power..... I agree that security forces need to do more to win heart of tribals!!!
 
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To do more? What? To do more of what they had been doing ...killing people and raping women?

I am damn sure that by killing & raping innocent people, no army/force had won people's heart.If you have any example then pl quote...

Tribal support can be won by using soft tactics like medical aid,support in education , giving ration etc...

But i again reiterate that Maoist must be dealt with Iron Fist, sooner the govt realizes it is better!!!
 
Hemant

As an analogy.


There was a time when the islamic invaders ruled Delhi and surounding areas.

They created much injustice

The Jats rose up,under their Khaps, rebelled and took up arms, against the Government of the day.

According to yours( and others' logic) the then government , the Islamic rulers at Delhi, should have used more force, to crush the Jats.

That would have resolved the problem!


I wonder if you see the parallels?
Ravi Chaudhary
 
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Hemant

As an analogy.


There was a time when the islamic invaders ruled Delhi and surounding areas.

They created much injustice

The Jats rose up,under their Khaps, rebelled and took up arms, against the Government of the day.

According to yours( and others' logic) the then government , the Islamic rulers at Delhi, should have used more force, to crush the Jats.

That would have resolved the problem!


I wonder if you see the parallels?
Ravi Chaudhary

Ravi,

I don't see any parallels here.Today's govt is democratically elected but Islamic ruler weren't.We have a option of voting govt out of power today but it was not possible at that time.

we should not see Maoist issue as only underdevelopment problem , use of brutal force against state must dealt with force.we should not forget that ultimate aim of Maoist is not upliftment of tribals , but to capture power by force.

If they are progressive people why they blow up towers, schools , roads & other infrastructure.If they have so much support , who stops them to contest elections & bring the change they want to see.

regards
Hemant Hooda
 
k there is any problem with governance. India is world's largest democracy. Why tribals need stakes in the forest resources, mines. Do you think their fundamental rights are voilated. Don't they have reservation in jobs?I dont think there is any problem with governance. India is world's largest democracy. Why tribals need stakes in the forest resources, mines. Do you think their fundamental rights are voilated. Don't they have reservation in jobs?

They are fighting for their fundamental rights only. As we are living in gangatic plains since centuries so the agricultural land belongs to us.
If someone find hidden treasure in his land it will be taken up by that individual. And a person will resist if not get his fair share from govt.

Similarly, tribal people are staying in forests. It is there source of income. There ancestor living in forests since centuries and protecting the forests. If they have mines in there region, why they should not get share in it. Ultimately someone is going to earn from it. May be TATA, AMBANI's, MITTAL.

And again politics will start over it. Let there be flow of money. Tribals did no wrong...they have ability to work hard and smart to earn. They need govt. support not of industrialists.

ye te un ne hatiyar tha liye nu tyahi limelight mae aa re se...na ta sarkar en ne bhed bakriya ki tariya bhaja deti.

At the end, Power and money behind the green hunt politics.
 
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Ravi,

I don't see any parallels here.Today's govt is democratically elected but Islamic ruler weren't.We have a option of voting govt out of power today but it was not possible at that time.

Hemant Hooda

That is true. No parallel can be drawn between the Muslim rulers and the democratically elected indigenous government which is of the people, for the people and by the people. Muslim rulers were the invaders and their basic aim, initially, was to plunder India's wealth and go back to their land. Also, after settling down in India, their motive to rule was not altruistic. They subjugated the indigenous people, tortured and exploited them for their luxuries and perpetuate their kingdoms for the their coming generations. In spite of some fallacies and shortfalls of democracy, there is world of difference between the two systems.
 
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