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There came the "BADA DIMAG". Like we needed one.
what about intercaste marriage?
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There came the "BADA DIMAG". Like we needed one.
What probably Sumit meant was 'Sankiran or sankuchit'(Narrow) minded.
We need hundreds and thousands of jats having 'Badde dimag'( broad or open minded) with an outlook for tolerance and compassion.
It has happened just yesterday only in Faridabad where parents of Jat girl killed her husband who was a Brahman. They didn't approve the marriage.
Isn't shameful and barbaric act? Is there no place for personal liberty and love for Jat Girls?
And what is happening in Bhopal and other places related to that incident in Bhopal where a Muslim Boy married a Hindu(sindhi) girl.
In this case culprits are These idiots from Bajrangdal and VHP.
IT is shame that the law can't throw the likes of Ashok Singhals befind the bars and not allow them bale under TADA or some other similar laws.
Sateypal
We need hundreds and thousands of jats having 'Badde dimag'( broad or open minded) with an outlook for tolerance and compassion.
It has happened just yesterday only in Faridabad where parents of Jat girl killed her husband who was a Brahman. They didn't approve the marriage.
Isn't shameful and barbaric act? Is there no place for personal liberty and love for Jat Girls?
And what is happening in Bhopal and other places related to that incident in Bhopal where a Muslim Boy married a Hindu(sindhi) girl.
In this case culprits are These idiots from Bajrangdal and VHP.
IT is shame that the law can't throw the likes of Ashok Singhals befind the bars and not allow them bale under TADA or some other similar laws.
Sateypal
A long thread............a strong topic!!!!!
My opnion about this
when you caste and intercaste.it make me to laugh.......
reason for this is that there is no thing like caste or any other such thing .
this castism and other means of diving comunity were done by pandits and ancient kings just to didvide society for a better management of society....
think of time in evolution of man when life just started on earth on earth .when man just came to existence.....(early man).......there was no caste and creed funda at all......think of marraige at that time .. what will u call such marriages.caste or intercaste............
Ultimate we are human being
some of jats have shown concern that now a days its trend that boys are marrying with punjabi girls.......
just look at histroy of few hundred years back........punjabis came into exitence when they started a khalsa pant .khalsa came from a arabic word khalis which means pure...they just made group which wanted to remain aways from normal society .most of people in this group were jats .
punjabi is just a sub section of hindu society with majority of jats.......
some may argue about early man issue ........even if you talk about man after civilizations came into existence we all are one .we all are aryans.
Bande apna mul phachan
likhne me koi galti ho gaye ho toh maf karna
Think about it ...........
i welcome your opinion about this.
My opnion about this
when you caste and intercaste.it make me to laugh.......
reason for this is that there is no thing like caste or any other such thing .
this castism and other means of diving comunity were done by pandits and ancient kings just to didvide society for a better management of society....
think of time in evolution of man when life just started on earth on earth .when man just came to existence.....(early man).......there was no caste and creed funda at all......think of marraige at that time .. what will u call such marriages.caste or intercaste............
Ultimate we are human being
some of jats have shown concern that now a days its trend that boys are marrying with punjabi girls.......
just look at histroy of few hundred years back........punjabis came into exitence when they started a khalsa pant .khalsa came from a arabic word khalis which means pure...they just made group which wanted to remain aways from normal society .most of people in this group were jats .
punjabi is just a sub section of hindu society with majority of jats.......
some may argue about early man issue ........even if you talk about man after civilizations came into existence we all are one .we all are aryans.
Bande apna mul phachan
likhne me koi galti ho gaye ho toh maf karna
Think about it ...........
i welcome your opinion about this.
Imp!
This is not so easy as seems to.
& the topic is endless as relavent to a community website.
My opinion is
"Shaadi chaahe Intercaste ho, Interreligon ho, Interstate ho, International ho, Intercontinental ho ya phir kisi DOOSRE PLANET ke PRANI se ho........PARENTS KE AGAINST NAA HO."
"Phir chahe iske liye tumhe apna balidaan dena ho ya apne pyar ka....doesn't matter."
Bye the way
Can we all give some examples of Intercaste Marriages among JATs.
& most important successful out of them.
This is not so easy as seems to.
& the topic is endless as relavent to a community website.
My opinion is
"Shaadi chaahe Intercaste ho, Interreligon ho, Interstate ho, International ho, Intercontinental ho ya phir kisi DOOSRE PLANET ke PRANI se ho........PARENTS KE AGAINST NAA HO."
"Phir chahe iske liye tumhe apna balidaan dena ho ya apne pyar ka....doesn't matter."
Bye the way
Can we all give some examples of Intercaste Marriages among JATs.
& most important successful out of them.
narenderkharb
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Hi Tony
I think you are confusing between sikh and Punjabi identities one based on religion other on language.So every khalsa may not be a punjabi and ever punjabi is not khalsa or sikh.
Punjabi is one of the oldest language and people speaking punjabi are living for thousans of years not few hundred yeras back.
Jat traditions had never any problem regarding marriage of a sikh and non sikh jat but punjabi here is generally reffered for non jat khatri and arora people ,a majority of which came during partition of India.
Again Sikhism is not a part of hindu religion and these warriors didn't try to remain away from normal society.Just wanted to correct on that point .Though it is true all people are decendants of one couple but if we concentrate on that point we can never marry as all males and females are bothers and sisters.
Hi,
This is very interesting and debatable. Its really nice to see so many people coming up with their views on this particular topic.
I think we all know that marriages are made in heaven. This is a well known saying. When two people meet and their marriage is solemnized, it is believed that this is the wish of god. Marriage may be in the same caste or it may be inter caste. Marriages within the same caste mean that both boy and the girl belong to the same community. Intercaste marriage means girl and boy are from different castes .
But different castes have a different approach to a wedding, especially when it comes to an inter-caste marriage in jat communities its hardly accepted. All of a sudden, the boy and girl announce their undying love for each other, and their intention to get married with or without their parents’ blessings. Tense moments pass through the families. The atmosphere becomes highly charged and inflammable! Explosive! The family members avoid looking at each other. Every one prefers to keep to themselves, silence is a virtue. They whisper to each other. How to respond? How to react? How can he/she do it? None in the family dared to cross the boundary lines before. Never before! Shameful, for the entire family.
After the initial shock waves subside, the elders in the family put their heads together and have a quiet chat. They consider all the pros and cons of the situation.I think the anger should be contained. Instead of throwing them out, accept the inevitable, and like we all have seen a recent example of whatever happened in the case of faridabad is shameful !!Let them get married in the proper way, in the presence of the entire family.
After all its two people who have to understand each other through out.
Its good if one marry withen community but if any how one goes and marry out of community I don’t find anything wrong with it ,because we are after all humans first and we should not discriminate caste.
Atlast…understanding between two people and compatibility is more important for successful marriage where two people comes from different background all together…so its lilttle more in intercaste because culture changes..tradition changes..n at times language also..but at end of day adjustment and compromise is there in both cases…so one should not make issue out of it but rather change accordingly.coz nobody is perfect whether u go for intercaste or withen the caste marriage. People need to be more broad and open minded in this regard.
This is very interesting and debatable. Its really nice to see so many people coming up with their views on this particular topic.
I think we all know that marriages are made in heaven. This is a well known saying. When two people meet and their marriage is solemnized, it is believed that this is the wish of god. Marriage may be in the same caste or it may be inter caste. Marriages within the same caste mean that both boy and the girl belong to the same community. Intercaste marriage means girl and boy are from different castes .
But different castes have a different approach to a wedding, especially when it comes to an inter-caste marriage in jat communities its hardly accepted. All of a sudden, the boy and girl announce their undying love for each other, and their intention to get married with or without their parents’ blessings. Tense moments pass through the families. The atmosphere becomes highly charged and inflammable! Explosive! The family members avoid looking at each other. Every one prefers to keep to themselves, silence is a virtue. They whisper to each other. How to respond? How to react? How can he/she do it? None in the family dared to cross the boundary lines before. Never before! Shameful, for the entire family.
After the initial shock waves subside, the elders in the family put their heads together and have a quiet chat. They consider all the pros and cons of the situation.I think the anger should be contained. Instead of throwing them out, accept the inevitable, and like we all have seen a recent example of whatever happened in the case of faridabad is shameful !!Let them get married in the proper way, in the presence of the entire family.
After all its two people who have to understand each other through out.
Its good if one marry withen community but if any how one goes and marry out of community I don’t find anything wrong with it ,because we are after all humans first and we should not discriminate caste.
Atlast…understanding between two people and compatibility is more important for successful marriage where two people comes from different background all together…so its lilttle more in intercaste because culture changes..tradition changes..n at times language also..but at end of day adjustment and compromise is there in both cases…so one should not make issue out of it but rather change accordingly.coz nobody is perfect whether u go for intercaste or withen the caste marriage. People need to be more broad and open minded in this regard.
sidchhikara
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If you have fun with a person and you know that you will continue to love that person for a long time, then there should be no other considerations. If you feel that you can only have fun with ppl from your own community then there you go!! - you dont need to venture out of your caste. Otherwise the world is full of possibilities - you need to have the balls to snatch one.
I personally dislike the drama surrounding marriage - I think it is totally uncalled for and has a bad vibe.
We are not living living in medieval times - so please drop the thinking as well.
If you have to spend your life with somebody, I think you should be the one to decide. You should not worry about what your neighbor thinks, or the people in the village think. If your parents love you and care for you, they will be on your side, they will have your back, otherwise they are one of those people who run when sh*t hits the fan. I would say go out there - interact, learn, enjoy, talk to people - believe me you dont have to jump on the marriage thing as soon as you hit puberty.
I personally dislike the drama surrounding marriage - I think it is totally uncalled for and has a bad vibe.
We are not living living in medieval times - so please drop the thinking as well.
If you have to spend your life with somebody, I think you should be the one to decide. You should not worry about what your neighbor thinks, or the people in the village think. If your parents love you and care for you, they will be on your side, they will have your back, otherwise they are one of those people who run when sh*t hits the fan. I would say go out there - interact, learn, enjoy, talk to people - believe me you dont have to jump on the marriage thing as soon as you hit puberty.
I'm glad you wrote this....This in itself would be a debatable topic on this site....what else can I say!
narenderkharb
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spdeshwal;135318[B said:
Let us accept the right of such girls who want their sons to be Tuteja ,Miglani ,Singla or pandey, bid them adieu with a heavy heart and ,Live happily afterwards.
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and make them wonder why they were ever born a kharb or a dahiya or malik (no offense to any of these, just symbolic)....your attitude, i'm sorry to say, stinks.....and thats what you are perpetrating here...a totally exclusionary attitude for your daughters and sisters who might just think of having a choice of her own in her life....and then you people talk about female feoticide and gender equality....I have never come across such double talk as here...
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prashantacmet
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U are too younger to understand these intellectual thing 
....... Let's wait until u advance for a single bit maturity......... Grow up fast.......All the Best..................
....... Let's wait until u advance for a single bit maturity......... Grow up fast.......All the Best..................we're probably the same age Prashant, and thanks for just trashing my opinion by your assumptions......
U are too younger to understand these intellectual thing
samarkadian
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Banyan, Eucalyptus and Spring.
Happened to observe few things out of my window yesterday afternoon, Natural and logical .
A banyan tree and another of eucalyptus (dry, inflexible). Eucalyptus tree couldn’t resist wind’s speed and tore down, ironically remains were finding solace under peaceful, flexible and Big tree with various people sitting on pavement. Banyan as usual providing shelter and embracing all heat (of sun as well of people) while on the remains of eucalyptus a dog peed and sit under banyan.
Another is bounce of the spring from a scooter mechanic , which was pressed . Again very natural. One tried to press it hardly, it blowed that face.Some springs are under pressure since centuries and waiting to blow the faces.
Like Navin Gulia say," Power of brain could be beaten easily by a courageous heart".
Happened to observe few things out of my window yesterday afternoon, Natural and logical .
A banyan tree and another of eucalyptus (dry, inflexible). Eucalyptus tree couldn’t resist wind’s speed and tore down, ironically remains were finding solace under peaceful, flexible and Big tree with various people sitting on pavement. Banyan as usual providing shelter and embracing all heat (of sun as well of people) while on the remains of eucalyptus a dog peed and sit under banyan.
Another is bounce of the spring from a scooter mechanic , which was pressed . Again very natural. One tried to press it hardly, it blowed that face.Some springs are under pressure since centuries and waiting to blow the faces.
Like Navin Gulia say," Power of brain could be beaten easily by a courageous heart".
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Why we are supporting intercast marrages ?
I am not agree with these intercast marreges and these are problem for parants as well as for society also. We all who are supporting these marieges are saying the right of love for the girl but what about the love of their parents who thinks every time for the betterment of thier doughter(bitiya,gudiya). They are worried about the happiness and good life of the doughter. When a girl favour a boy known to her by 2-3 year or less then that and leave their parents for the boy, is it love ? no I dont think so, If a person wheather boy or girl not care the love of their parents (those spent their love, blood and hardearned money also to grownup the child) what gurantee they love forever to that lover. This is the only fear of the parents.
We must suport the love of the parents and family first then any individual.
With Regards
I am not agree with these intercast marreges and these are problem for parants as well as for society also. We all who are supporting these marieges are saying the right of love for the girl but what about the love of their parents who thinks every time for the betterment of thier doughter(bitiya,gudiya). They are worried about the happiness and good life of the doughter. When a girl favour a boy known to her by 2-3 year or less then that and leave their parents for the boy, is it love ? no I dont think so, If a person wheather boy or girl not care the love of their parents (those spent their love, blood and hardearned money also to grownup the child) what gurantee they love forever to that lover. This is the only fear of the parents.
We must suport the love of the parents and family first then any individual.
With Regards
Name Game or what!!
I’m with you on this one.
What an irony, nothing but the last name is critical for being a Jat.
Has this thought ever crossed a "Jat" mind that perhaps a Jat woman marrying a non-jat might be able to inculcate more Jat values in her “half”(if you allow) Jat son/daughter as compared to the one marrying within the community?
Mind dissecting it more at the microlevel? Wots the difference between an offspring of a Jat man with a non-Jat woman (which is permitted and acceptable! ) AND a Jat woman with a non-Jat man, if for a moment we forget that it’s a patriarch society and the man’s name is inherited? Both are a mix (actually better scientifically) and what matters is how strong and/ or true a Jat, one of the Jat parent is so that he/she can instill those values in him/her. Rest is insignificant.
I’m with you on this one.
What an irony, nothing but the last name is critical for being a Jat.
Has this thought ever crossed a "Jat" mind that perhaps a Jat woman marrying a non-jat might be able to inculcate more Jat values in her “half”(if you allow) Jat son/daughter as compared to the one marrying within the community?
Mind dissecting it more at the microlevel? Wots the difference between an offspring of a Jat man with a non-Jat woman (which is permitted and acceptable! ) AND a Jat woman with a non-Jat man, if for a moment we forget that it’s a patriarch society and the man’s name is inherited? Both are a mix (actually better scientifically) and what matters is how strong and/ or true a Jat, one of the Jat parent is so that he/she can instill those values in him/her. Rest is insignificant.
deepakdahiya24
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I totally agree what all dolly says....and i also belve that..Intrcaste marr. is fine
I totally agree what all dolly says....and i also belve that..Intrcaste marr. is fine
I totally agree what all dolly says....and i also belve that..Intrcaste marr. is fine
prashantacmet
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Reason is historical....... take a dip in history, hopefully u will get something desirable......
I’m with you on this one.
What an irony, nothing but the last name is critical for being a Jat.
Has this thought ever crossed a "Jat" mind that perhaps a Jat woman marrying a non-jat might be able to inculcate more Jat values in her “half”(if you allow) Jat son/daughter as compared to the one marrying within the community?
Mind dissecting it more at the microlevel? Wots the difference between an offspring of a Jat man with a non-Jat woman (which is permitted and acceptable! ) AND a Jat woman with a non-Jat man, if for a moment we forget that it’s a patriarch society and the man’s name is inherited? Both are a mix (actually better scientifically) and what matters is how strong and/ or true a Jat, one of the Jat parent is so that he/she can instill those values in him/her. Rest is insignificant.
prashantacmet
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Ohhhhhhh..... then discrepancies have been produced by our location Toronto/Baraut....................... It sounds acceptable ? or it's also an assumption.........
prashantacmet
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