Who do you think is the most eligible candidate for the PM post ?

Who is your preferred choice for PM in next election?

  • Manmohan Singh

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  • Rahul Gandhi

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  • Lalu Yadav

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  • Mamta Benarjee

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  • Mulayam

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  • Mayavati

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  • Total voters
    56
  • Poll closed .
Many times ------things are so confusing specifically to people like me who are current affairs / news illiterate.

I remember reading one post which indicates ----Muslims in Gujarat are in worse situation . Then another post which indicates -----Muslims in Gujarat are in better situation .

Whom should I follow ..............

There can never be 2 facts on one stand, they might be 2 interpretations however, read them deeply and you will know. Also check the source- if it is Pioneer or Niti Central, ignore it
 
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In 2006, Prime Minister Dr. Manmohan Singh appointed a high powered committee headed by Justice Rajinder Sachchar (former PM IK Gujral’s brother-in-law and former Chief Justice of the Delhi High Court.) .....
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2-133721-Modi-emerging-as-popular-leader-of-Muslims-in-Gujarat

Sachchar Commissions report was filed in Indian Parliament on 30 November 2006 and was formed in 2005, you mean Modi's magic worked in 3 years to educate muslims so much? Atleast put some analysis before believing Pakistani news sources
 
Sachchar Commissions report was filed in Indian Parliament on 30 November 2006 and was formed in 2005, you mean Modi's magic worked in 3 years to educate muslims so much? Atleast put some analysis before believing Pakistani news sources

This is why I always maintain that arguing with you is futile because you have strong prejudices for whatever reasons. I even didn't mention Modi's name here. I was just sharing a news and readers are welcome to interpret it. Does it matter if the source is pak or china? You point out if the data is incorrect. You just don't like the fact that news is positive about Gujrat's Muslim which doesn't suit your propaganda. Gujrat has better ratio of Muslims in govt which was a surprise to me as propaganda machinery like you so far were saying Muslims are worse off in Gujrat.
 
Many times ------things are so confusing specifically to people like me who are current affairs / news illiterate.

I remember reading one post which indicates ----Muslims in Gujarat are in worse situation . Then another post which indicates -----Muslims in Gujarat are in better situation .

Whom should I follow ..............

Don't follow anyone. Trust the facts not propaganda and make your own mind.
 
This is why I always maintain that arguing with you is futile because you have strong prejudices for whatever reasons. I even didn't mention Modi's name here. I was just sharing a news and readers are welcome to interpret it. Does it matter if the source is pak or china? You point out if the data is incorrect. You just don't like the fact that news is positive about Gujrat's Muslim which doesn't suit your propaganda. Gujrat has better ratio of Muslims in govt which was a surprise to me as propaganda machinery like you so far were saying Muslims are worse off in Gujrat.

Oh so you just felt like posting muslims doing good in Gujarat figures out of the blue? I am pasting a few links Vir, I hope you will appreciate them and they are from a NYT article:

Gujarat has an urban poverty ratio of almost 18 percent, compared with almost 21 percent for the country as a whole. Yet according to India’s Planning Commission, a government body that draws up five-year plans for the economy, 42.4 percent of the Muslims in urban Gujarat are poor, compared with 33.9 percent of Muslims in urban India overall.

Still, Modi has opposed a national plan from 2007 to set aside 15 percent of development funds for Muslims, claiming it would threaten the “social fabric of the nation.” He also has refused to implement another program that would have provided 53,000 scholarships to Muslim students in Gujarat — a state where 75 percent of school-age Muslims are enrolled in school but only 26 percent go on to finish, while 79 percent of the total school-age population is enrolled and 41 percent go on to finish.

A comprehensive 2011 report of government data by Abusaleh Shariff, who was chief economist of the National Council of Applied Economic Research for more than 15 years, concludes that Muslims in Gujarat “fare poorly on parameters of poverty, hunger, education and vulnerability on security issues — nowhere benefiting from the feel-good growth story” painted by the current government.
 
Oh so you just felt like posting muslims doing good in Gujarat figures out of the blue?


No, I was and am of the opinion that it is very hard to do selective development and by chance I saw this news and thought of sharing it. Muslims will automatically get benifited as the state grow. I find it absurd that some people think he is only doing developement for Hindus.


I only shared concrete data and that data is from committee appointed by UPA. I can produce more data on Muslims being having very high representation in govt as of 2011 and getting more Haj subsidy.


But my point is if Gujrat Muslim has +/- 2% better education rate or poverty rate that doesn't prove absolutely whether he is doing that purposely. Congress claims that she looks after Muslims but then why Sikhs are doing better than Muslims? Is congress doing selective growth?


On some parameters Muslims are better in Gujarat on other they are not. This doesn't prove Modi is an exceptional leader nor does it prove he is doing selective development. Such data is only used for the people to support their propaganda for or against Modi. There are some Muslim businessman who has all praise for Modi but then you will say they are bribed by Modi and the endless debate continues...
 
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No, I was and am of the opinion that it is very hard to do selective development and by chance I saw this news and thought of sharing it. Muslims will automatically get benifited as the state grow. I find it absurd that some people think he is only doing developement for Hindus.

On the bold part, not really that hard and reservation is a classic example of it.

In Gujarat if you may ask, Modi has stopped many grands to muslims, even central govt scholarship schemes have been stopped for muslims. If you go to the complete post it will well you how schools and socio-economic conditions have been kept poor for them. Also, you believe that Gujaratis are doing better than others on human parameters, but my post clearly proves Muslims are not and it endorses the fact that a state can do selective upliftments.
 
Even after 60 years of reservation SC are still poor and you claiming that in 9 years he has done selective development of Hindus without reservation. Data shows Muslims had higher number of representation in Gujrat govt in 2006 and they still had in 2011 and their literary rate is better than many other states (Muslims only).

Now you are saying Gujaratis are doing better on human index parameters but Muslims are not. Days before you guys were showing in bold how Gujrat is behind in human development. Contradiction here ? Overall Muslims are behind in development everywhere. And Earlier I mentioned in Sikhs are doing better than Muslims does that mean congress is doing selective development ?

I can understand your problem that you have to paint Modi in bad color by hook or by crook. Good luck !
 
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Even after 60 years of reservation SC are still poor and you claiming that in 9 years he has done selective development of Hindus without reservation. Data shows Muslims had higher number of representation in Gujrat govt in 2006 and they still had in 2011 and their literary rate is better than many other states (Muslims only).

Bite me! Could you tell me how many muslim MLAs won in last elections and how many of them were from BJP?


By the way, you disagree that reservations has not uplifted SCs and STs?
Now you are saying Gujaratis are doing better on human index parameters but Muslims are not. Days before you guys were showing in bold how Gujrat is behind in human development. Contradiction here ? Overall Muslims are behind in development everywhere. And Earlier I mentioned in Sikhs are doing better than Muslims does that mean congress is doing selective development ?

I can understand your problem that you have to paint Modi in bad color by hook or by crook. Good luck !
No, I am saying muslims are doing bad when you compared to other Gujaratis.
 
Bite me! Could you tell me how many muslim MLAs won in last elections and how many of them were from BJP?


What does Muslim MLA has to do with their representation in Govt services? Why does someone has to give ticket to muslim to prove anything? They gave tickets to muslims in local bodies elections. There are no Muslim minister doesnt prove anything neither good nor bad.

By the way, you disagree that reservations has not uplifted SCs and STs?.

I said overall they are still poor and we are talking about 60 long years. So how come he change things so quickly in 5-6 years without reservation given that you agreed that in 2005-06 muslims had better education. (However you laughed that it is not because of Modi).


No, I am saying muslims are doing bad when you compared to other Gujaratis.

Muslims are doing bad everywhere. By this logic UPA is even worse.

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Do you agree with the sachchar committee data presented above or not?
 
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भाई क्यों खदम - खदा होवे है इस गेल ? इस थ्रेड के हिसाब ते मोदी ने पूर्ण बहुमत हासिल कर लिया है , आर मनमोहन , राहुल गाँधी की जमानत जब्त होगी | :victorious: Landslide victory
 
भाई वा तो मज़ाक की बात थी. जी भाई ने वोट नही डाला वो भी आप की जगह ठीक से.
 
भाई क्यों खदम - खदा होवे है इस गेल ? इस थ्रेड के हिसाब ते मोदी ने पूर्ण बहुमत हासिल कर लिया है , आर मनमोहन , राहुल गाँधी की जमानत जब्त होगी | :victorious: Landslide victory

तो मतलब इब्ब यु रोला ख़तम । क्लोज द "तागा " नाउ ।
 
Bite me! Could you tell me how many muslim MLAs won in last elections and how many of them were from BJP?


By the way, you disagree that reservations has not uplifted SCs and STs?

No, I am saying muslims are doing bad when you compared to other Gujaratis.
I saw it in some thread that muslim population is 7.1% in Gujarat, Bhai ye bta kitne MLA aur MP ban ne chahiye?
 
भाई मसा ए बंद होया हे, ना चाबी भरे पैंडा छुटाना औखा हो जा गा. फेर कदे कह दे बताई कोणी
 
No one has voted for Rahul Gandhi - I see it as the NaMo NaMo factor.
Even those who favor congress openly on Jatland have sensed the potential outcome of GE 2014.

MODI CHAHE HAAR JAAIYO 2014 mein, LEKIN KASOOOTI 'CHIIIII' BAITHAA DEE S CONGRESSSIYAAN KE...............
 
Are you sick man...!!!!

Bite me! Could you tell me how many muslim MLAs won in last elections and how many of them were from BJP?


By the way, you disagree that reservations has not uplifted SCs and STs?

No, I am saying muslims are doing bad when you compared to other Gujaratis.
 
भाई वा तो मज़ाक की बात थी. जी भाई ने वोट नही डाला वो भी आप की जगह ठीक से.


मन्ने भी जब मखोल करया था भाई। स्माइली लाना भूल गया था ;)
 
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