Will Chautala return to power? (With Poll)

[rkumar]

Are ooo Chachaji aapne mere do sawalon ke jawab naa diye ab tak.

Baki I think Kuldeep Bishnoi has tried to get more compensation for land aquired in Gurgoan...may be due to any reason...something good for Jats.

Secondly if Bhajanlal leaves congress then Hooda cannot win at all and thats why they are tolerating them...it's Bhajan Lals vote base keeping him in congress otherwise he would have been shown the door.

So donot under estimate the power of Bhajan and his Lals.

Baaki aap boora mat manna aap kati 100% congressi ho or aap ko congress ki buraye yaa haar ki baaten achhi nahin lagti. Ab ese aap chahe yahan mano yaa naa mano...but it's evident.

Bhai Shamsher,

1. I tried to answer most of your questions. Since there is a percetable difference in our views on some matters, I decided to leave it there.

2. Jats are known to fight like cats thereby leaving the field open for monkeys. We all know how Bhajan Lal snatched power from Devilal. Wish Jats had some shame left after that.. Jats will be fools again if they trust Bhajan and his Lals. Jaton ko aadat hai upna muh nochne ki... aur doosron ke sur pe pagree bandhnee ki... I will call it stupidity of Jats if they are ruled by 1% Bisnois..

3. May be I am more inclined towards Congress in Haryana. However, that does not make me blind towards truth and ground reality.

RK^2

 

[gsvijay1]

I find it very starange that lot of educated people, on this website, are ready to accept a crroupt person in power again.

My vote is always for a non-corrupt person even though they never win.

 

[rajmalhooda]

Are ooo Chachaji aapne mere do sawalon ke jawab naa diye ab tak.

Baki I think Kuldeep Bishnoi has tried to get more compensation for land aquired in Gurgoan...may be due to any reason...something good for Jats.

Secondly if Bhajanlal leaves congress then Hooda cannot win at all and thats why they are tolerating them...it's Bhajan Lals vote base keeping him in congress otherwise he would have been shown the door.

So donot under estimate the power of Bhajan and his Lals.

Baaki aap boora mat manna aap kati 100% congressi ho or aap ko congress ki buraye yaa haar ki baaten achhi nahin lagti. Ab ese aap chahe yahan mano yaa naa mano...but it's evident.

Beta Malik
I totally disagree with you, Bhajan is not out because "Congreee didnot want to disrespect the old guy" As far as Kuldeep is concerned "bacho ko sudharne ka moka dena chaiya"

Raj Mal Hooda

 

[shamshermalik]

Beta Malik
I totally disagree with you, Bhajan is not out because "Congreee didnot want to disrespect the old guy" As far as Kuldeep is concerned "bacho ko sudharne ka moka dena chaiya"

Raj Mal Hooda

First of all I welcome you on Jatland, we need some learned members here who can talk about the state's progress and who can condemn any corrupt activity of govt without thinking of own political affiliation.

Are Chachaji we know how much respect Bhajan is getting in congress. Congress knows that once Bhajan is out then congress is out from Haryana. And you also know that what Kuldeep is saying is Bhajan's voice.

Do not take me anti Hooda, I appriciate whatever good he is doing but this Bhajan reality everyone knows. If Bhajan Lal is not in congress in next election then congress is sure to loose by big margin.

What you say?

regards,
Shamsher.

 

[rkumar]

Are Chachaji we know how much respect Bhajan is getting in congress. Congress knows that once Bhajan is out then congress is out from Haryana. And you also know that what Kuldeep is saying is Bhajan's voice.

Do not take me anti Hooda, I appriciate whatever good he is doing but this Bhajan reality everyone knows. If Bhajan Lal is not in congress in next election then congress is sure to loose by big margin.

What you say?

regards,
Shamsher.

Whole world knows how opportunist Bhajan Lal has been. Do you think Bhajan Lal will stay in congress if he is capable of racking the government ? If you know the compulsons of congress, please tell me the same about Bhajan Lal and his sons ? If they are so great and control the fortunes of congress, why can't they make their own party and pull government ? Hope you know how Bhajan Lal came in Congress in 1980 ? Wish we Jats are blessed with some better momory..

RK^2

 

[shamshermalik]

Bhai Shamsher,

1. I tried to answer most of your questions. Since there is a percetable difference in our views on some matters, I decided to leave it there.

2. Jats are known to fight like cats thereby leaving the field open for monkeys. We all know how Bhajan Lal snatched power from Devilal. Wish Jats had some shame left after that.. Jats will be fools again if they trust Bhajan and his Lals. Jaton ko aadat hai upna muh nochne ki... aur doosron ke sur pe pagree bandhnee ki... I will call it stupidity of Jats if they are ruled by 1% Bisnois..

3. May be I am more inclined towards Congress in Haryana. However, that does not make me blind towards truth and ground reality.

RK^2

RK Sir..I never liked Bhajan Lal personally but we cannot shut our eyes if we want a jat CM then we have to think about how to maitain it. We cannot ignore Bhajan Lal/s vote base now the qustion before congress should be how to moove that vote base in favour of Hooda. If they want to survive they have to play the vote politics to some extent, they just cannot ignore this fact. Infact Kuldeep is making hole in Hooda stronghold in Gurgoan by fighting for more compensation.


I undestand that we have some difference of openion but my two questions were really simple and if you want then you can answer them now. I am repeating them below..option is yours...

1. Has govt declared any incentives for the businesses to operate in the areas of Bhiwani, Mahendargh etc.

2.Do you think govt needs to give subsidies and tax breaks to SEZs in an area which is highly preferred and developing at its own.


Regards,
Shamsher

 

[rajmalhooda]

Why people want change?

He will be back. Theres no doubt about it. I am not his admirer though. Its just because people want change. And Chautala's reign wasnt too bad.
Errr manne dikkhe yu Rathee kayi bogus vote ger ke aawega ibke ne hehehehe!!!

Definately change leads the society to progress, but for a change the alternate must be kept in mind and why people wants a change only in the political parties, there can be changes in the policies to copup with the changing world & circumstances. If the govt. thinks separately about each section of people, in a way of specialization than in my views the time frame for the change in power can also be incresed for another 5 years, with out wasting huge money in elections. More over the wastage of precious time in election code.

RaJ Mal Hooda

 

[shamshermalik]

Whole world knows how opportunist Bhajan Lal has been. Do you think Bhajan Lal will stay in congress if he is capable of racking the government ? If you know the compulsons of congress, please tell me the same about Bhajan Lal and his sons ? If they are so great and control the fortunes of congress, why can't they make their own party and pull government ? Hope you know how Bhajan Lal came in Congress in 1980 ? Wish we Jats are blessed with some better momory..

RK^2

RK Sir,
I never liked Bhajan Lal and I never want to see him or his sons as CM again. But donot you think Kuldeep is getting some sympathy in Gurgaon and affecting Hoda vote base while nothing is changing in Bhajan stronghold. I am not talking about dangers to present govt but in next election even a 2-3% votes to Bhajan's party combined with anti establishment will cost Mr Hooda dear. In my openion congress or Hooda should not tolerate the anti party activities but by tolerating these Hooda is showing weakness. Bhajan has nothing to gain bu leaving the party at his own and that way he will even loose excess to govt files and system which he has now through his sons.

 

[shamshermalik]

Definately change leads the society to progress, but for a change the alternate must be kept in mind and why people wants a change only in the political parties, there can be changes in the policies to copup with the changing world & circumstances. If the govt. thinks separately about each section of people, in a way of specialization than in my views the time frame for the change in power can also be incresed for another 5 years, with out wasting huge money in elections. More over the wastage of precious time in election code.

RaJ Mal Hooda

I donot agree to give a ten year term...that will bring more corruption..rather I would favour a one year cut on present term of five years...it should be four so that the politicians know that if they donot work fine then soon the door is to be shown.

 

[rkumar]

.. Infact Kuldeep is making hole in Hooda stronghold in Gurgoan by fighting for more compensation.

Kuldeep is not fighting for farmers. He is fighting for himself and for his friends including Chautalas who have benami land in 100s of acres there. How come this sudden love for farmers otherwise ? Coming to your two questions, as told earlier, I won't go any further and I suppose I am entitled to my freedom not to get any further. As far as making holes is concerned, that every politician is doing. This is why we have so many holes in India...and these holes are occupied by rats..

RK^2

 

[shamshermalik]

Whole world knows how opportunist Bhajan Lal has been. Do you think Bhajan Lal will stay in congress if he is capable of racking the government ? If you know the compulsons of congress, please tell me the same about Bhajan Lal and his sons ? If they are so great and control the fortunes of congress, why can't they make their own party and pull government ? Hope you know how Bhajan Lal came in Congress in 1980 ? Wish we Jats are blessed with some better momory..

RK^2

No offences but politics is a game of opportunistic people. There are many in congress today who are like Bhajan Lal and there are few who become politicians because they got the opportunity...everything given on a platter. So Sir, opportunistic or opportunities they all go together Politicians do what they blame others for and behave like paranoid personalities and defence machanism is projection.

 

[rkumar]

No offences but politics is a game of opportunistic people. There are many in congress today who are like Bhajan Lal and there are few who become politicians because they got the opportunity...everything given on a platter. So Sir, oportunistic or opportunities they all go together Politicians do what they blame others for and behave like paranoid personalities and defence machanism is projection.

So ?????? Should we campaign here on Jatland for Bisnois ? Fight among ourselves ? What are wer trying to prove ? Any way to me this debate has reached to point where we are just trying to win our arguments and nothing more... I withdraw now...I will be very happy till any Jat is CM of Haryana..and that will be possible when all Jats are united..

RK^2

 

[shamshermalik]

May be I am more inclined towards congress in Haryana. However, that does not make me blind towards truth and ground reality.

YES, You turned a blind eye towrds truth by declining to answer the questions even though you knew them.

Coming to your two questions, as told earlier, I won't go any further and I suppose I am entitled to my freedom not to get any further.

RK^2

I respect your freedom and liberty and I got the answer too, moreover I already know them. But I am disappointed because I thought highly of you, a person who will speak the truth when its a matter of national interest. But now, I am sorry and it looks like I was arguing with a person who only speaks good for the govt and preffers silence when its time to criticise the wrong doing of the govt. But its life and you also have some limitations and self interest.

No offences, and I respect your freedom of silence


I would like to add onething whatever motives of Kuldeep might be but Jats are going to benifit from it by getting more money than currently offered...and considering this I would support Kuldeep rather than the govt.

You must have read the news few days ago that central govt has issued notice to Haryana govt and condemed the inadequate compensation given to farmers and further advised that the prime agriculture land should not be more than 10% of the total SEZ area..given this notification brakes have been applied on both SEZs and CM might have to change hios plans to visit five countries regarding this.

 

[shamshermalik]

So ?????? Should we campaign here on Jatland for Bisnois ?
RK^2

Who ever it might be..if what the person is doing, is good for Jats then we should support that act.Period.

Because of all this by Kuldeep the center govt has directed state govt to give adrquate compensation. Do you want to condenm Kuldeep if few Jats who lost their land are going to get some extra money because it was a Bishnoi who protested and the benifit went to Jats.

 

[shamshermalik]

I withdraw now...I will be very happy till any Jat is CM of Haryana..and that will be possible when all Jats are united..

RK^2

Do I have to remind you that Chautala is JAT too...then how come you were not happy if you are happy just by seeing a JAT CM.

RK SIR, If Mr Hooda can deliver even 70% of what he has promised then I will be there to actively compaign for him, but lets see the progress and donot stop scrutinising and donot ignore the interests of state public.

If we will not look for development getting above the boundaries of religion, region and cast, we can never progress whether its a Jat CM or non Jat CM.

 

[rajmalhooda]

I would like to add onething whatever motives of Kuldeep might be but Jats are going to benifit from it by getting more money than currently offered...and considering this I would support Kuldeep rather than the govt.


Bata Malik
You are expressing that is open to every one, this is just a political stunt to make the community feel good. Dont you know the biased attitude of Mr. Bhajan towards bisnois and there ignorance to our Jat community during his tenures?
Raj Mal Hooda
These are hard facts, be united

 

[vijay]

Bata Malik
Dont you know the biased attitude of Mr. Bhajan towards bisnois and there ignorance to our Jat community during his tenures?
Raj Mal Hooda
These are hard facts, be united

Namaste Uncle,

I know Bhajan Lal since he was nothing but just used to smuggle grains from Rajasthan to Haryana as prices were better in Haryana as compared to Rajasthan. My grandfather ( Ex-MLA ) brought him into politics in 1967 and rest is history How he climbed up in politics that everybody knows.

Regards
Vijay

 

[biotechnology]

Bata Malik
You are expressing that is open to every one, this is just a political stunt to make the community feel good. Dont you know the biased attitude of Mr. Bhajan towards bisnois and there ignorance to our Jat community during his tenures?
Raj Mal Hooda
These are hard facts, be united

I too agree with you, Can any one tell what Bhajan Lal has done for the Jats when he was in power. He has just worked for the upliftment of bisnois and supressed THE JATS.

Vikas

 

[rajmalhooda]

You must have read the news few days ago that central govt has issued notice to Haryana govt and condemed the inadequate compensation given to farmers and further advised that the prime agriculture land should not be more than 10% of the total SEZ area..given this notification brakes have been applied on both SEZs and CM might have to change hios plans to visit five countries regarding this.

This notification has been send for all proposed SEZs in India and these are nothing but the new guideline for the SCZs setup. It doesnot mean that at haryana any thing is going wrong.
Raj Mal Hooda

 

[biotechnology]

Definately change leads the society to progress, but for a change the alternate must be kept in mind and why people wants a change only in the political parties, there can be changes in the policies to copup with the changing world & circumstances. If the govt. thinks separately about each section of people, in a way of specialization than in my views the time frame for the change in power can also be incresed for another 5 years, with out wasting huge money in elections. More over the wastage of precious time in election code.

RaJ Mal Hooda

Yes, People wants a change when the govt. channels the potentials in one direction & biased atitude for some sections. Policies need to be refined/ changed accordingly.

Vikas