Women empowerment Solution or Problem?

[anilsinghd]

Over thinking, over analysis, over proving/justifying is a good way to empower each other, You know, what I mean, heh?

Samar , can you also tell over thinking , analysis , proving/justifying of WHAT?

Samar not sure if what you said is correct , over thinking , over analysis , over proving/justifying ( please note it might be over for you but not "over" for some one else , i hope you are respecting the individualities of different people) can surely lead to empowering of self and that to me is not BAD.

Be it mathematically inclined or not.



PS: I deliberately tried not to read the sarcasm (if any) in your post with emphasis on "over".

 

[sudeepdular]

It seems you have got issues everywhere...

No one liners please, If you do not have any inputs, you may refrain from replying.

Cheers

तपुन की बात अपुन को अच्छी लगी ...Though samar's comment was sarcastic bt relevant & meaningful.... let the show goes on....dont take the fizz out of coke....apun en-joy kar rela hai.....

 

[rakeshsehrawat]

दोस्तों मुझे नहीं लगता ये बात गलत है की जो Female नौकरी करती है वो बेरोजगार से शादी करे ! एम्पोवेर्मेंट भीख में नहीं मिलती उसके लिए आपको जीतने का जिगर चाहिए ! डॉक्टर नर्स से शादी करता है क्योंकि फिर वो मेन लीड में रहता है अगर लेडी डॉक्टर वर्ड बॉय से शादी करे तो वो लीड करेगी ! विडम्बना तो येही है की लड़कियां शादी में अपने से बड़े Status का लड़का चाहती है और फिर ये भी चाहती हैं की वो लीड करे !

 

[vicky84]

दोस्तों मुझे नहीं लगता ये बात गलत है की जो Female नौकरी करती है वो बेरोजगार से शादी करे ! एम्पोवेर्मेंट भीख में नहीं मिलती उसके लिए आपको जीतने का जिगर चाहिए ! डॉक्टर नर्स से शादी करता है क्योंकि फिर वो मेन लीड में रहता है अगर लेडी डॉक्टर वर्ड बॉय से शादी करे तो वो लीड करेगी ! विडम्बना तो येही है की लड़कियां शादी में अपने से बड़े Status का लड़का चाहती है और फिर ये भी चाहती हैं की वो लीड करे !

Bhai Hindustan/Bharat/India change(Westernized) honnn laag rehya sai...Ibbe poorani generation chal ri sai...dattt ja nayi generation mai saab kimme ho jaga..ibbe empowerment poori koni hoyi sai..

 

[bhaskar]

Sir Ji,

Just wanted to know why all appreciation goes to women only? Its not just women who work, men also work hard for their carrier (infact nowadays we can see clearly the edge given to girls in almost all the fields compared to men; so more hard work for men).

Only women don't leave their homes, its men also. Again in today's world there are more n more nuclear families and men and women get equal chance to meet their parents.

Only women don't work in kitchen. If women is working men have to do thier share of house chores else you know the big fight.... (Main kamati hun, main kaam nai karungi, though men never say this thing that I earn so I wont take you out to women).

If women are mothers, sisters, wives, etc... then men also are fathers, brothers, husbands (but I never have never seen or heard such good things about men and why??? I dont know)

In which world is the writer of that mail living? Its long time back when women were treated like servants.

If men work 15 hours a day, its nothing but if a women work 15 hours a day, different knid of mails start coming look how much she is working.

If 100 men clear IAS, IITs, IIMs exams thats no news but if even a single girl come even in top 1000, thats breaking news.

If men shout on or hit women, 100s of organisations comes forward to rescue her but if women hit men, men is wrong.

Women want empowerement, equality in every field but want a separte queue in railway station counter, separate quota in LS everything separte.

Last but not least, I am not against women empowerment, but I am against special treatment given to them. When men 1st started working nobody was there to treat them nicely or show them the path. Let women also do that. I will never stop them to do something. Its equal world, women are equal and so please show them equality.

PS: These are my personal views and are not meant to hear anybody's sentiments especially girls.

Hey - hold on ! How many girls eat gutkha, khaini, daaru and do late night ghooma-firi etc etc give me a percentage & compare it with the percentage of men doing the same.

Now, the crux : men resort to many many things to take out their stress/fatigue & women usually dont take shelter under these superficial umbrellas - they are strong mentally, though they are physically much less strong as compared to men, dont you know? And in case u do, why this stupid comparison

 

[choudharyneelam]

Hey - hold on ! How many girls eat gutkha, khaini, daaru and do late night ghooma-firi etc etc give me a percentage & compare it with the percentage of men doing the same.

Now, the crux : men resort to many many things to take out their stress/fatigue & women usually dont take shelter under these superficial umbrellas - they are strong mentally, though they are physically much less strong as compared to men, dont you know? And in case u do, why this stupid comparison

Good reply

 

[rohitmalik8]

Hey - hold on ! How many girls eat gutkha, khaini, daaru and do late night ghooma-firi etc etc give me a percentage & compare it with the percentage of men doing the same.

Now, the crux : men resort to many many things to take out their stress/fatigue & women usually dont take shelter under these superficial umbrellas - they are strong mentally, though they are physically much less strong as compared to men, dont you know? And in case u do, why this stupid comparison

Mr Bhaskar,

Dont you think that your views are contradicting???

You dont want to have or listen the percentage of men having positive attributes/success with their lives etc. But you surely want to hear the percentage of men having negative qualities. Great!!!!

Secondly I havent made any comparsion between the the physical or mental ability of men and women? Women are and will be more mentally strong than men. For physical aspect women are more strong than men in many cases e.g. sports women than people like me.

If you kindly read my post again I am against the special treatment given to women. I just wanted to know why this discrimination against men?

My brothers who have studied in Engineering Colleges (as I am an engineer, I can tell about engineering colloges only), know about the viva that we have given in 4 years. They usually call a group of students consisting 4-5 students. In my case I had 2 female and 3 male in my group. In our college usually teachers asked same question from all the students. Now even if we all male and female havent answered any of the question the number given to females were always more.

I think all my brothers who have seen this can jump in to validate this point.

Again why this discrimination???? Just because we are men and ladkon ko sab chalta hai!!!!

Bhai Saab,

Please I want equality in every field. I dont care if some women is having more success than me if she is working hard enough for it. But I do have problem when women get promotion/higher marks/appreciation just because they are women and not on the merit basis.

I hope I have cleared myself here.

Thanks a lot!!!!!

 

[akshaymalik84]

Mr Bhaskar,

Dont you think that your views are contradicting???



My brothers who have studied in Engineering Colleges (as I am an engineer, I can tell about engineering colloges only), know about the viva that we have given in 4 years. They usually call a group of students consisting 4-5 students. In my case I had 2 female and 3 male in my group. In our college usually teachers asked same question from all the students. Now even if we all male and female havent answered any of the question the number given to females were always more.

I think all my brothers who have seen this can jump in to validate this point.

Again why this discrimination???? Just because we are men and ladkon ko sab chalta hai!!!!

!

Validated bhai.....

 

[choudharyneelam]

First of all, I wud like to say sorry to u as I interrupted your talk with other person. But I could not resist..that's why I wrote it down.

My brothers who have studied in Engineering Colleges (as I am an engineer, I can tell about engineering colloges only), know about the viva that we have given in 4 years. They usually call a group of students consisting 4-5 students. In my case I had 2 female and 3 male in my group. In our college usually teachers asked same question from all the students. Now even if we all male and female havent answered any of the question the number given to females were always more.

As I remember, during our school days we also had little vivas n female teachers were all biased towards boys....but we never felt like that you complaining. As we're satisfied with our marks. Hum dusron ke numberon mein nahin jhaankte the...we only were concerned that we just have to perform.

I think all my brothers who have seen this can jump in to validate this point.

hehehe....I always wonder why guys look for others' support to clarify their point. Anyways, we also enjoy when guys make such kind jumps

Please I want equality in every field. I dont care if some women is having more success than me if she is working hard enough for it. But I do have problem when women get promotion/higher marks/appreciation just because they are women and not on the merit basis.

Your false belief n jealous nature makes you think like that.

Last but not the least....aap ladke ladkiyon ki khushiyon se jalte ho....wo dukh sahe to koi itna nahin bolta.

 

[akshaymalik84]

First of all, I wud like to say sorry to u as I interrupted your talk with other person. But I could not resist..that's why I wrote it down.(you have every right to speak...that's what equality is?)



As I remember, during our school days we also had little vivas n female teachers were all biased towards boys....but we never felt like that you complaining. As we're satisfied with our marks. Hum dusron ke numberon mein nahin jhaankte the...we only were concerned that we just have to perform.(Its not about school days, it common behavior of human being to favour opposite sex!.....but girls have greater favour because of more Male teachers)

hehehe....I always wonder why guys look for others' support to clarify their point. Anyways, we also enjoy when guys make such kind jumps ( As per my experiance, Men have more friends .....so why shouldn't they help each other(unlike other species)........)

Your false belief n jealous nature makes you think like that. (Only God knows who is more jealous.....)

Last but not the least....aap ladke ladkiyon ki khushiyon se jalte ho....wo dukh sahe to koi itna nahin bolta.(I never wants girls or ladies to Cherish more pain....as both men and women are incomplete without each other)

My intent was not to hurt any one.......it was just an instinctive response.

 

[dskadyan]

Empowerment toh theek par Roti kaun dega?

Par issue kya hai
1. Roti nahi milti.
2. Women are not leading and they will hardly in future and all knows why?

 

[vineetaenator]

Devender ji

It would be nice if you elaborate on ur points

have happiness and joy
Vineeta..

Par issue kya hai
1. Roti nahi milti.
2. Women are not leading and they will hardly in future and all knows why?

 

[anilsinghd]

My intent was not to hurt any one.......it was just an instinctive response.

Not to be off topic but Tom and Jerry chal rhaa kya ?

It is not so bad to see a lil bit of healthy teasing !

 

[akshaymalik84]

Not to be off topic but Tom and Jerry chal rhaa kya ?

It is not so bad to see a lil bit of healthy teasing !

Hahahaha.........Bhai...Log bura maan ja hai......

 

[bhaskar]

Mr Bhaskar,

Dont you think that your views are contradicting???

You dont want to have or listen the percentage of men having positive attributes/success with their lives etc. But you surely want to hear the percentage of men having negative qualities. Great!!!!

Secondly I havent made any comparsion between the the physical or mental ability of men and women? Women are and will be more mentally strong than men. For physical aspect women are more strong than men in many cases e.g. sports women than people like me.

If you kindly read my post again I am against the special treatment given to women. I just wanted to know why this discrimination against men?

My brothers who have studied in Engineering Colleges (as I am an engineer, I can tell about engineering colloges only), know about the viva that we have given in 4 years. They usually call a group of students consisting 4-5 students. In my case I had 2 female and 3 male in my group. In our college usually teachers asked same question from all the students. Now even if we all male and female havent answered any of the question the number given to females were always more.

I think all my brothers who have seen this can jump in to validate this point.

Again why this discrimination???? Just because we are men and ladkon ko sab chalta hai!!!!

Bhai Saab,

Please I want equality in every field. I dont care if some women is having more success than me if she is working hard enough for it. But I do have problem when women get promotion/higher marks/appreciation just because they are women and not on the merit basis.

I hope I have cleared myself here.

Thanks a lot!!!!!

No my views arent contradicting i am ever ready to listen abt the good qualities of men ! Donno wat made u feel so

Anyways, can u tell us who told you women are mentally stronger? Does it means that they can work like machines without complaining ? or is it yet another cushion to protect your stand by categorising the men specie a less stronger one?

And the viva & impartial thing - its just cooked up or may be an individual case - it cant be generalised so easily !

Regarding the preferential treatment to women - now why do we have reservations for SC, ST etc ? - just coz some learned people felt that by giving them an extra edge, they will progress at an enhenced pace & may come upto the level of the non-reserved ones some day (reservation is viable or not or to wat extent is another big question, so cant be dealt in detail here). So, it the reason for preferential treatment of women at some places, and mind me at 'SOME' places. You dont have any compulsion to get influenced by it. But neither can you stop people from doing so or for anything for that matter ! You cant even stop people from emotionally depriving a woman of her basic requirement of love & compassion, or depriving a girl of equality, or stop them from loading the girls with the list of extra rules & regulations as compared to men. So, why u wish to stop this or feel it unjustified.

Dude, thr r many other unjustified things being done to women, why to get jealous of an inch of 'over-praise' for them!

Hey, dont feel offended. Inspite of myself being a male, I am witness of many a wrong dones, unheard evils, emotional harrasments, atrocities etc being done on women in one form or the other in most of the households. Women are emotionally much more soft than men, the only thing i feel is that they carry the burden of the same for longer just because they are full of more love & warmth as compared to the men.

And about the women who are seemingly aggressive & more prone to compete with them - they often carry a heavy burden of mental harrassment, male chauvenism & societal discrimination somewhere down the lanes of her heart. And thus, appear more aggressive & adamant !

 

[choudharyneelam]

My intent was not to hurt any one.......

So you r another funny guy.....I liked ur responses

but aap apni likhi baaton ko bhi dhyan mein rakha karein....if you can talk about ur college days..then why can't a girl talk abt her school days .....n u think na ki male teachers are more biased towards girls......I don't agree.....humare yahan to equal weightage milti thi....I really feel bad abt the bad experience u had .....warna aapke vichar bhi hum ladkiyon jaise hote....koi baat nahin....jo beet gayi so baat gayi....don't turn back..look ahead....kahin koi ladki promotion na le jaaye

The best sensible reply of yours is the last statement abt togetherness. I appreciate ur beautiful thought.

 

[choudharyneelam]

thr r many unjustified things being done to women, why to get jealous of an inch of 'over-praise' for them!

Women are emotionally much more soft than men, the only thing i feel is that they carry the burden of the same for longer just because they are full of more love & warmth as compared to the men.

U r a person with sound thoughts.

I hope other guys too start thinking n accepting like that.

 

[rohitmalik8]

First of all, I wud like to say sorry to u as I interrupted your talk with other person. But I could not resist..that's why I wrote it down.

Last but not the least....aap ladke ladkiyon ki khushiyon se jalte ho....wo dukh sahe to koi itna nahin bolta.

No problem mam if you intrude!!!

For second comment, I m not jealous!!!!

Just 1 question for you and Mr Bhaskar before I write any more: what do you mean by equality?? (Please answer in context to thread's viewpoint).

 

[choudharyneelam]

No problem mam if you intrude!!!

For second comment, I m not jealous!!!!

Just 1 question for you and Mr Bhaskar before I write any more: what do you mean by equality?? (Please answer in context to thread's viewpoint).

Nice to hear from u

I don't know how you all taking ahead this thread, but in my personal opinion 'God has made Man & Woman in a way that they can never be weighed equally.....differences are there...somewhere more in men n somewhere more in women...'

The only thing I want to highlight is...learn to respect each other's qualities, specialities, n the purpose being here.

That's it!

 

[dskadyan]

Yahi toh kah raha tha!!!

Nice to hear from u

I don't know how you all taking ahead this thread, but in my personal opinion 'God has made Man & Woman in a way that they can never be weighed equally.....differences are there...somewhere more in men n somewhere more in women...'

The only thing I want to highlight is...learn to respect each other's qualities, specialities, n the purpose being here.

That's it!

Thats what i want to say that we are unbalancing the thing and wehave to think about it. Women were used to Make home and take care of childs and also other work they like to do but absolutely not bread earner, except in some cases. But now they are becoming bread earner and you know what is the disadvantages to that

1. Stress full life.
2. Competition at both Work and home.
3. Degrading child care.
4. Many cases sub standard results at work and home both places.

But then i though that may be not due to women empowerment but life style. So may be our ife style is changing way it shouldnt.

Not inviting any critics. Please.