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pooja12goyat

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ajkal ladkiyaan har wo kaam kar rahi hain jo ladke...
matlab wo kisi bhi field me agar unse aage nahin to peeche to bilkul bhi nahin hain.
aise me kya ladko.n bhi house hold works me unka barabar saath nahin dena chahiye...?
hamesha se kaha jaata hai ki shhadi ke baad pati patni i gaa di ke do pahiye hote hain jab 1 pahiye ne dusre pahiye ka kuch bojh apne upar le liya hai to kya us pahiye ka bhi yehi farz nahin banta...............?:rolleyes:
 
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pooja12goyat said:
ajkal ladkiyaan har wo kaam kar rahi hain jo ladke...
matlab wo kisi bhi field me agar unse aage nahin to peeche to bilkul bhi nahin hain.
aise me kya ladko.n bhi house hold works me unka barabar saath nahin dena chahiye...?
hamesha se kaha jaata hai ki shhadi ke baad pati patni i gaa di ke do pahiye hote hain jab 1 pahiye ne dusre pahiye ka kuch bojh apne upar le liya hai to kya us pahiye ka bhi yehi farz nahin banta...............?:rolleyes:
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पूजा जी या कोई नई बात नहीं है एक दुसरे का साथ देना , ये तो सदियों से होता आया है
लेकिन असलियत में ये साथ देना,ना देना एक बहम है पर जो ऐसा समझाता है कि पति ने साथ दिया या नहीं दिया ....same ऐसे ही पत्नी ने ,तो समझो उनके मन में खोट है , समझो वो जोड़ा साचा प्रेमी नहीं है ,उनमे सदभाव और परमात्मा का वास नहीं है ,वे सवार्थी है , क्यूंकि साथ देना या ना देना उनके हाथ में नहीं ये सब natural होता है . क्योंकि भगवन कृषण ने भी कहा है तवम केवलम करम करू , फालसे चिंता मा करू . यही सत्य है , इसलिए लड़के पीछे लड़की आगे और इनका उल्टा ,ये सब बकवास है ये सब बाते वही करते है जिनमे हिन् भावनाए होती है ,जो खुदगर्ज होते है .मेरी समझ में तो बस यही ठीक है अपना कम करे जाओ किसी का दिल ना दुखाओ फसे हुवे की मदद करो यही सत्कर्म है यही सब हमारी जिंदगी को सुखद बना सकता है .नहीं तू उलझा रहता है मनुसय अपनी ही उधेड़ बुन में ,और मर जाता है एक जिनावर की भाति बिना किसी की अच्छाई लिए ,जो धरती पर सबसे बुरा है सबके लिए.

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Men and Women are manufactured diffrently in many a ways by the God almighty and we must understand those dynamics correctly and should not try to equate each others as regards to every issue.Yes if we talk of certain things which are feasibly doable by both like cooking,cleaning of house or dishes or washing cloths etc,there is absolutely no doubt with me that both should share these responsibilities voluntarily, if both happen to be working but still there are certain issues which should and can be handled by respective sex.Talking too much equality will certainly hurt the dignity of both sexes.Let them be unique but let them compliment and share duties where ever it is possible without compromising that uniqueness.God created both to love,to share the burdons of huge life together but still he created them so differently.So respect his creation and move on.
 
no competition plz

आज की नारी की समस्या ये है की वो पुरुष से आगे नुकलने की दौड़ मैं अपने आप को भूल गयी है जहाँ वो ये सोचती है की उसे पुरूष के साथ कोई दौड़ जीतनी है बस वहीँ सारी गलती हो जाती है पुरुष और नारी की कोई प्रतिस्पर्धा नहीं है वो तो एक दुसरे के पूरक है , जो गुण एक मैं नहीं हैं वो दुसरे मैं हैं, इस तरह वो एक दुसरे को पूरण बनाते हैं पुरुष और नारी के बीच प्रतिस्पर्धा की मानसिकता गलत है , उनमे कोई प्रतिस्पर्धा , कोई दौड़ हो ही नहीं सकती , होनी भी नहीं चाहिए
जिन कार्यों के लिए प्रकृति (या परमात्मा कह लीजिये) ने पुरुष को नियुक्त किया है, उसे पुरुष को ही करना चाहिए, और जिन कार्य के लिए नारी को उन्हें नारी को ही करना चाहिए . इसे ही गीता मैं स्वधर्म कहा गया है, जिसका काम उसी को साजे वाली बात भी आप जानती होंगी.

वैसे जो सवाल आपने पुछा है उसके उत्तर मैं येही कहने चाहूँगा की अगर दोनों कोई नौकरी आदि करते है तो पुरुष को स्त्री का घर बार के काम मैं जरूर साथ देना चाहिए
 
common concern of today

ladki ki daud ladke ke sath nhi balki time ke sath hai......she knows that time has changed,now she is equally educated,similarly cherished and pampered by her parents as a boy so why not stand on her own feet as an independent and bold lady of today?It is not like defeating other but winning yourself.
Pooja has raised a very genuine and common concern of today which at least deserves a thought. If the girl of today carries an equal load in professional life so is it justified to pour the entire household responsibility on her head?There are so many jobs which only she can do but apart from it,there are so many which both can do.If she cooks the food,the boy can serve it and keep the utensils back.If she washes the clothes,the boy can hang them for drying.If she cleans the house,the boy can at least keep his things organized,if she takes care of the kid all the day,the boy can look in the night.These are the minor contributions that the boy can make easily that would be really helpful for her.If she raises a voice against this,then the common answer of boy is "My mother also used to do this,infact much more than this,so why cant u?" or "Ok,leave everything,I will do all my tasks myself like cooking food for me,washing clothes(in an irritated way) ".So to avoid such arguements she remains quiet.Koi inko jakar btao ki tumhari mmy kya aisi job karti thi 10-12 ghanto vali??It is just a matter of understanding and co operative nature which is missing out.Probably this is ego that they think it is a woman's task.An moreover,if a woman complains about it,they say ki "tumhe to is cheez ke lie prepared hona chhiye as u have ur mother doin all this,i mean ladki ko to aisa hona hi chhaiye" ,sochne vali baat ye hai ki fir yhi log aisa kyun bolte hain ki "main to ajkal ka ladka hun...aaj to ladka ladka sab brabar hain.....muje to ajkal ke time ki ladki chhaiye shadi ke lie.".sidhe hi matrimony me chapva de ki sara din kitchen me kaam kare,brabar ki naukri kre ,meri sewa kare,bache pale,ghar ke faislo me mere age bole na etc etc.....
And last but not the least ye khene vale ki ladko ko pura sath dena chhaiye,inme se kitne aise hain jo sach me aisa karte hain....is a big question??????
 
Yes if both want peace and smooth family life than it is also the duty of the men that they should contribute something in family in terms of household work if both are working.otherwise ladki housewife ho working na ho.fir kharcha na chale.
isliye Bhaiyo agar ghar chalana hai to ye sab bhi karna hi padega, or vaise bhi akeli Ladki ki hi jimewari thodi hai ki sab kuchh wohi kare, ladke ko bhi kuchh karna chahiye.
It all about sharing and caring of each others, which keep them intect.
 
arvind1069 said:
आज की नारी की समस्या ये है की वो पुरुष से आगे नुकलने की दौड़ मैं अपने आप को भूल गयी है जहाँ वो ये सोचती है की उसे पुरूष के साथ कोई दौड़ जीतनी है बस वहीँ सारी गलती हो जाती है पुरुष और नारी की कोई प्रतिस्पर्धा नहीं है वो तो एक दुसरे के पूरक है , जो गुण एक मैं नहीं हैं वो दुसरे मैं हैं, इस तरह वो एक दुसरे को पूरण बनाते हैं पुरुष और नारी के बीच प्रतिस्पर्धा की मानसिकता गलत है , उनमे कोई प्रतिस्पर्धा , कोई दौड़ हो ही नहीं सकती , होनी भी नहीं चाहिए
जिन कार्यों के लिए प्रकृति (या परमात्मा कह लीजिये) ने पुरुष को नियुक्त किया है, उसे पुरुष को ही करना चाहिए, और जिन कार्य के लिए नारी को उन्हें नारी को ही करना चाहिए . इसे ही गीता मैं स्वधर्म कहा गया है, जिसका काम उसी को साजे वाली बात भी आप जानती होंगी.

वैसे जो सवाल आपने पुछा है उसके उत्तर मैं येही कहने चाहूँगा की अगर दोनों कोई नौकरी आदि करते है तो पुरुष को स्त्री का घर बार के काम मैं जरूर साथ देना चाहिए
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well said ............................its truth
 
anusha ji apki kuch chuninda line........

There are so many jobs which only she can do but apart from it,there are so many which both can do.If she cooks the food,the boy can serve it and keep the utensils back.If she washes the clothes,the boy can hang them for drying.If she cleans the house,the boy can at least keep his things organized,if she takes care of the kid all the day,the boy can look in the night.These are the minor contributions that the boy can make easily that would be really helpful for her.If she raises a voice against this,then the common answer of boy is "My mother also used to do this,infact much more than this,so why cant u?" or "Ok,leave everything,I will do all my tasks myself like cooking food for me,washing clothes(in an irritated way) ".So to avoid such arguements she remains quiet.Koi inko jakar btao ki tumhari mmy kya aisi job karti thi 10-12 ghanto vali??It is just a matter of understanding and co operative nature which is missing out.Probably this is ego that they think it is a woman's task.An moreover,if a woman complains about it,they say ki "tumhe to is cheez ke lie prepared hona chhiye as u have ur mother doin all this,i mean ladki ko to aisa hona hi chhaiye" ,sochne vali baat ye hai ki fir yhi log aisa kyun bolte hain ki "main to ajkal ka ladka hun...aaj to ladka ladka sab brabar hain.....muje to ajkal ke time ki ladki chhaiye shadi ke lie.".sidhe hi matrimony me chapva de ki sara din kitchen me kaam kare,brabar ki naukri kre ,meri sewa kare,bache pale,ghar ke faislo me mere age bole na etc etc.....


ha ha anusha ji ap sahi keh rahi hai ....kyunki ye ap nahi apki 10-12 ghante ki job bol rahi hai.
aur ap jin matao se compair kar rahi hai unke sath compair karne ke layak aj ki ladki nahi hai ,
are u know, why ??????/
because firstly
...................we sabse achhi beti banti thi fir
....................achhi patni then
...................achhi mata and then
...................waqt ane par rani of janshi
in sabhi guno ke karan we all the best thi, aur hai ,aur rahengi.


lekin aj ke samaj me selfish ke siwa aur koi jyada gun nahi hai, chahe fir wo ladki ho ya ladka , nisawarth bhaw se kam karne wala koi nahi hai kyonki jo jitni badi post par hai wo utana hi selfish hota hai.
lag jata hai wo apni kamai ka rob dikhane jaise ap 10 -12 ghante??????????????
hahahaha
ye apki galti nahi ye kalyug bil raha hai
kyunki pehli kuch line to apne thik boli but ap fir aaaaaaaaa gai kal ke ghare me aur suru kar diya apna alap
:mad: best of luck and :rock
enjoy ur life with time timeeeeeeeeeeee
 
pooja12goyat said:
ajkal ladkiyaan har wo kaam kar rahi hain jo ladke...
matlab wo kisi bhi field me agar unse aage nahin to peeche to bilkul bhi nahin hain.
aise me kya ladko.n bhi house hold works me unka barabar saath nahin dena chahiye...?
hamesha se kaha jaata hai ki shhadi ke baad pati patni i gaa di ke do pahiye hote hain jab 1 pahiye ne dusre pahiye ka kuch bojh apne upar le liya hai to kya us pahiye ka bhi yehi farz nahin banta...............?:rolleyes:
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ager aap baat sirf kaam karne ki kar rhe ho tho aap ek dam theek ho.kaam kaam hota hai uspe ye nhi likka hota ye ladke karge ye ladkiya karegi. per ladke or ladkiyo main anter hona jaruri hai
ager asia na ho to indian girls bhi goriyo ki trha her roz sutte margi pag margi disco club pub main jan lag jagi......coz un countries main ladke or ladkiya ko bilkul saman samja jata hai. aapne desh main ladkiyo ko kannya or devi ka roop dia gaya hai jabki english people ladkiyo ko bitch khe ke bulate hai .or goriya ye word sunke itni kush hoti jasie 100 $ mil ge ho..ham sab lucky hai ki ham asie desh main hai .....or jab 1 pahiya ne dusre pahiye ka bojh apne upar le lia ho to wo tut jata hai .......
 
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anusha said:
ladki ki daud ladke ke sath nhi balki time ke sath hai......she knows that time has changed,now she is equally educated,similarly cherished and pampered by her parents as a boy so why not stand on her own feet as an independent and bold lady of today?It is not like defeating other but winning yourself.
Pooja has raised a very genuine and common concern of today which at least deserves a thought. If the girl of today carries an equal load in professional life so is it justified to pour the entire household responsibility on her head?There are so many jobs which only she can do but apart from it,there are so many which both can do.If she cooks the food,the boy can serve it and keep the utensils back.If she washes the clothes,the boy can hang them for drying.If she cleans the house,the boy can at least keep his things organized,if she takes care of the kid all the day,the boy can look in the night.These are the minor contributions that the boy can make easily that would be really helpful for her.If she raises a voice against this,then the common answer of boy is "My mother also used to do this,infact much more than this,so why cant u?" or "Ok,leave everything,I will do all my tasks myself like cooking food for me,washing clothes(in an irritated way) ".So to avoid such arguements she remains quiet.Koi inko jakar btao ki tumhari mmy kya aisi job karti thi 10-12 ghanto vali??It is just a matter of understanding and co operative nature which is missing out.Probably this is ego that they think it is a woman's task.An moreover,if a woman complains about it,they say ki "tumhe to is cheez ke lie prepared hona chhiye as u have ur mother doin all this,i mean ladki ko to aisa hona hi chhaiye" ,sochne vali baat ye hai ki fir yhi log aisa kyun bolte hain ki "main to ajkal ka ladka hun...aaj to ladka ladka sab brabar hain.....muje to ajkal ke time ki ladki chhaiye shadi ke lie.".sidhe hi matrimony me chapva de ki sara din kitchen me kaam kare,brabar ki naukri kre ,meri sewa kare,bache pale,ghar ke faislo me mere age bole na etc etc.....
And last but not the least ye khene vale ki ladko ko pura sath dena chhaiye,inme se kitne aise hain jo sach me aisa karte hain....is a big question??????
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90% asie log hai jo faislo main aapni gharwali or baccho ki puri raye lete hai.

rhi baat baki kaam ki

ghar ko chalne wali or sambhalne wali ladki hi hoti
hai

chorra daru pita ho koi baat nhi bhu kaam chala legi
ager uski bhu daru pin lagi na do bhi kaam na chale

or ghar ko sambhalna ko buri baat nhi .............i think sabse muskil kaam hai ...

or ladkiya isse fir bhi acche se handle karti hai

job kyun karte hai for money sirf ....

ladki ka ye bhi farz banta hai aapne baccho ko time de
otherwise aaj kal childcare school bhut hai.

per ghar ka kaam aaj kal ki ladkiyo ko itna bura lagta huh
ham khana bana sakte kapde bhi wash kar sakte or safai bhi kar sakte

per ghar to nhi chala sakte na ?????????????????????????????????????

 
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anusha said:
jakar btao ki tumhari mmy kya aisi job karti thi 10-12 ghanto vali??
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anusha, do u think that working for 10-12 hrs in office is much-much difficult than working at home(i mean household works).......but i say that vice-versa is true.......
ghar sambhalana koi easy kaam nahi hota.......or har kisi ke bas ki baat nahi hoti......
so dont say that a working woman is doing something great than a house wife......
 
daivischahal said:
anusha, do u think that working for 10-12 hrs in office is much-much difficult than working at home(i mean household works).......but i say that vice-versa is true.......
ghar sambhalana koi easy kaam nahi hota.......or har kisi ke bas ki baat nahi hoti......
so dont say that a working woman is doing something great than a house wife......
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i don't think so.............if someone does work at house he/she's doing nothing


i know that everyone loves freedom ..................
its a human right
. its doesn't matter where she works at home or office
 
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sandeep ji what bout doin both???i mean working in office and settling home??i guess that is easiest acc to u:)...and shayd this is what the topic is all bout...naki 1 housewife and working lady ke comparison ka....
10-12 ghanto ki job meri nhi bhut ladkion ki hai ajkal.....n jhan pehle ka time tha jab ladka kheto me kaam karke ata tha ya sara din naukri karke ata tha to biwi uski sewa karti thi ,uske hath paon bhi dbati thi vo islie nhi ki vo apni naukri ka rob dikhata tha ya ghante count krata tha balki understang ke taur par and yhi cheez ajakl ki ladkian expect karti hain..bt afsos ki unhe apna busy routine explain karna padta hai...
jhan tak alap karne ki bat hai to i dnt thnk ki jl par aise issues adress kie jate hain bas sirf apne opinions and thoughts rakhe jate hain shayd tabhi iska nam general talk hai
agar guno ki baat hai usme pehle ki aurton me ya ab ki aurton me comparison karna to shyad is topic ke out of scope hai han bt jhan unke ghar ke kaam karne ki ability ko 1 benchmark samjha jata hai vo shayad galat hoga...kyunki unme se kitni aisi hai jo subeh ghar se nikalkar rat ko ghar ghusti thi....
 
anusha said:
sandeep ji what bout doin both???i mean working in office and settling home??i guess that is easiest acc to u...
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no anusha, acc. to me this is the toughest combination.....
n i am also i favour of working women that there husbands should help them in their household works.....

..jakar btao ki tumhari mmy kya aisi job karti thi 10-12 ghanto vali??
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i just answered ur above SENTENCE........


n jhan pehle ka time tha jab ladka kheto me kaam karke ata tha ya sara din naukri karke ata tha to biwi uski sewa karti thi ,uske hath paon bhi dbati thi vo islie nhi ki vo apni naukri ka rob dikhata tha ya ghante count krata tha balki understang ke taur par
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actually these are the required words....
n i dont think that aajkal ladke, who prefer house wife, apni wife ko ghar aakar rob dikhate hain apni job ka......

bt jhan unke ghar ke kaam karne ki ability ko 1 benchmark samjha jata hai vo shayad galat hoga...kyunki unme se kitni aisi hai jo subeh ghar se nikalkar rat ko ghar ghusti thi....
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ab yahan par aap aisa lagta hai ki job kar ke aap(not you, in general) kisi par ahsaan kar rahi hai......khud ko ek house wife se bada dikhane ki koshish kar rahi hai.........
 
anusha said:
sandeep ji what bout doin both???i mean working in office and settling home??i guess that is easiest acc to u:)...and shayd this is what the topic is all bout...naki 1 housewife and working lady ke comparison ka....
10-12 ghanto ki job meri nhi bhut ladkion ki hai ajkal.....n jhan pehle ka time tha jab ladka kheto me kaam karke ata tha ya sara din naukri karke ata tha to biwi uski sewa karti thi ,uske hath paon bhi dbati thi vo islie nhi ki vo apni naukri ka rob dikhata tha ya ghante count krata tha balki understang ke taur par and yhi cheez ajakl ki ladkian expect karti hain..bt afsos ki unhe apna busy routine explain karna padta hai...
jhan tak alap karne ki bat hai to i dnt thnk ki jl par aise issues adress kie jate hain bas sirf apne opinions and thoughts rakhe jate hain shayd tabhi iska nam general talk hai
agar guno ki baat hai usme pehle ki aurton me ya ab ki aurton me comparison karna to shyad is topic ke out of scope hai han bt jhan unke ghar ke kaam karne ki ability ko 1 benchmark samjha jata hai vo shayad galat hoga...kyunki unme se kitni aisi hai jo subeh ghar se nikalkar rat ko ghar ghusti thi....
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mainly

..bt afsos ki unhe apna busy routine explain karna padta hai...

madam ji bas ham yahi kehna chahte hai ki jab explain tak bat ajati hai to samjho ap thak chuke ho is jindagi ki bhag daud me ,apnekam ko jimewari nahi bas ek sadhan samjha hai bas paise kamane ka , fir apne sadi riste nato ke adhar par nahi ,bonding ke adhar par ki hai
ap samaj ko ye explain karne ki kosis me rahti hai ki dekho mai kitna kamati hoooooooooo
na ki ye ki ap ek jimmedar aurat hai
apni jimedariyo se bachane ke liye hi manushy apne ap ko explain karne ke chakkar me pada rahta hai chahe fir ap ho ya hum .


aur jaha tak topic out of scop ki bat hai , to iska matlab ye hi ki ap jimedariyo ko manna hi nahi chahati


bhawnaye ,riste- nate ghar pariwar ,ijjat bejati ye sab scope nahi hote ......ye sab natural hote hai jab se ye jahan bana hai tab se

now i hope that ...........lagi rahooooooooooo aushi ji
hahahaha
 
Equality?

Dear All,

Another all time popular topic! There can never be a thumb rule in these matters. Comparisons also would not help solve the problem. One can only express his/her opinion and only hope that arguments are based on logic and not egos. It is also difficult to compare women or men who have to deal with different situations and locations. It was always so much more comfortable for everyone in joint families. Problems that couples face now a days existed even then but weren't noticed or were taken care of.

In my view, western societies have always practiced gender equality whereas we have only preached. A man and wife would share most of the household work in western societies without going into the matters of gender equality or ‘my work – your work’ kind of debate. In most parts of our country, including Jatland, certain works are considered to be ‘only for women’. The hypocritical social system has ensured that gender equality is only spoken but seldom practiced. We worship various forms of female power during many festivals but when it comes to giving them equality, most societies here are found to be lacking in the real sense. With increase in education standards we should have seen some improvement in our social behavior pattern but sadly we haven’t. A society that does not practice what it preaches shall always debate these things.

In the race to achieve I don’t know what, we have become engrossed in making money, more and more of it. Earlier a couple would have a number of children and only the father would be working. The mother was satisfied or didn’t feel the need to go out and work. Today, we are having couples who don’t even want to have children because their careers are important. We work for 12 – 14 hours a day, leaving home in great tension and returning totally exhausted and perhaps even tenser! Surely, at that time, when both partners have returned home, it is criminal to expect the woman to then take care of the household chores as though she was at home the whole day. Now comes the conditioning. How can the husband wash utensils when he has always seen woman do that? His male ego doesn’t allow him to share this kind of domestic help. This is the reality and it will take generations to overcome this deeply engraved social evil.

We are lucky in India. We can hire affordable domestic help(s) to take care of the problem. All the irksome household work can be taken care of in about Rs 3000/- per month in a satellite town of Delhi. I am sure a working couple can afford that.

Regards,

JS Malik
 
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