1. Tamilnadu ka case different hai. Wahaan reservation Dravidian movement ka ek chhota sa part tha. This started before independence. The number of "backward castes" in Tamilnadu are much higher. The Dravidian movement was led by Periyar and it was directed against Brahmins. The level of discrimination in Tamilnadu against these backward castes (and not only SC/STs) was unmatched. These guys couldn't go inside temples, couldn't drink from the same source, etc. etc. So Periyar (who was an accomplished businessman) led the Dravidian movement, which included self-respect marriages (not marrying Hindu style with a pandit but with a unique style), fought against imposition of Hindi, reservations for bacward classes and many other such steps (again emphasising that it was not only reservations). So reservations were a part of a much larger social movement. Are you arguing that ONLY the reservations led to development in Tamilnadu. I'd beg to differ. Firstly, the reverse discrimination against Brahmins had many negative effects as well. Tamilians were a force to reckon with (probably the most influential after Bengalis) before independence. But this marginalization of Tamil Brahmins weakened Tamilnadu's influence in India significantly post-independence. Many of the brilliant Tam-Brams just migrate overseas as they have no interest left in either Tamilnadu or India. Secondly, the middle or backward castes who reaped the benefits of reservations in Tamilnadu were not under-developed in the economically like SC/STs. The movement gave them social and political power (and not just reservations). Tamilnadu was a leading state at the time of independence and economically, these castes were already a part of it (though Brahmins enjoyed the most dominant status). It is not as if the development process was started or even sustained by reservations. Thirdly, most of the development in Tamilnadu is recent and a part of a general trend in the last 2 decades because of setting of IT/BPO industries in the south. If reservations led to development, why are the titans of the same industries opposing it? And between Chennai, Hyderabad and Bangalore, it is no secret which is the least preferred destination for setting up an industry. Fourthly, the 70% reservation in TN is on paper. Because of SC directive, in practise it amounts to 51% only (like anywhere else). I found it out recently only courtesy wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reservation_in_India#Reservation_policy_in_Tamil_Nadu
Finally, these castes in Tamilnadu atleast had a genuine grouse that they had been discriminated against by Brahmins. Who has discriminated against you? Can any Brahmin stop a Jat from entering any temple or drinking from any well?
2. Are you suggesting that reservations stop criminalization? If that's the case, then let's first reserve seats for jihadis. There are several reasons which leads to criminalization and unemployment is only one of them. There are several educated and employed people who also turn to crime. So first of all it is a bogus argument. In any case, let's assume that one of the significant reasons for criminalization is unemployment. But then reservation DOES NOT create any new jobs. So it does not solve the issue of unemployment and hence of crime. If someone gets a reserved job, someone else loses it. It is a zero sum game. The number of unemployed youth remain the same as earlier. Toh agar ek aadha jat kam banega criminal to koi aur ban jaayega. Khair, ab aap khaoge ki humain jaaton se matlab hai, chaahe baaki saari duniya bane criminal (It is an assumption and I don't agree with it as we are a part of India and we should always look at the complete picture). Fir bhi, reservation didn't solve unemployment. The number of unemployed jats would go down only marginally. Baaki kya ghar baith ke khush honge ki chalo kuchh hamaare dhabbi ban gaye sarkaari naukar, ab hum criminal na bante.
3. Tumhain ismain zyada interest hai ki gujjaron ko aarakshan kyun chaahiye ki ismain ki humein kyun chaahiye? Two wrongs don't make a right. We don't need to look at others' stupid excuses. If you think that we need reservations then tell me what do we lack? Is there some genetic problem with us that makes us inferior? Is there some inherent handicap in us that we can't compete fair and square?
4. Postgraduate institutes main reservation waalon ka kya hashr hota hai, yeh main pehle bata chuka hoon. I have seen this during both my engg. and MBA days, so if nothing else, I'd know atleast this much.
5. Amrika waale gujjuon main bhagwaan dekhte hain kya ki jo unhain utha ke le gaye the? Unmain kuchh khaas baat hogi na which makes them excel everywhere? Do they have a hidden immigrant quota in US? Why do you not want to see even the most obvious? These guys excel everywhere as they are hard working and confident. They back themselves instead of begging for favors like reservations (There are even better examples like Jews in Israel). If you think Meenas are worth exemplifying, then please join them. I don't see any success in filling government jobs because of reservations, even if it is IAS. That is khairaat. Name me a Meena IAS who is considered to be an excellent administrator. Wahaan to unki monopoly hai, koi to example hoga. Aur baaki fields ka kya- name a single one who has done anything of note in sports, science, journalism, academics, private sector or any field. It is not a coincidence. Why would someone strive for excellence, when there are easy default options available. Nehru had said this about reservations: “So these external props, as I may call them, the reservations of seats and the rest, may possibly be helpful occasionally, but they produce a false sense of political relation, a false sense of strength, and, ultimately therefore, they are not so nearly important as real educational, cultural and economic advance which gives them inner strength to face any difficulty or opponent.”
