Do we Jat really need Reservation ?

[deepika]

1)If you meant that among those few teachers from RC lets add a few more Jats from RC then think again....well to be precise less number of incompetents(teachers from RC) will harm in lesser quantity....more will haram more....so if because of such incompetent teachers 30 percent of students dont get good education then lets not make it say 40 percent or 50 percent by giving more incompetent(Jats in RC)
2)Same is the case with doctors....lets not add more numbers of incompetent doctors keeping the life of patients at stake....aapke kehne ka yeh matlab hai ki agar dusre log gandgi machaye toh hum log peeche kyu rahe....we should also help them and mess up in better way
3)In such positions where one doesn't need to have specific skills or knowledge there we can have more candidates from RC....but ofcourse demanding for RC for jats is not the right solution.

1) Will we deny to study in govt. schools as there are teachers from reserved categories?
2) Will we deny to doctors from reserved categories in PGI rohtak as they will be the doctors ultimatly getting reservation again at PG level and then in jobs at the same PGI?
3) Will we deny to process our works in govt depts as there are reserved category officers?
4) Will we deny to take help from police as the officers there are too from reserved categories?
5) Will we deny to travel in a bus with reserved category driver?

I appreciate yours positive attitude. But what does the increasing seats for general quota means? How will you acheive this, please put your thoughts as what for common general category man should fight for thinking practically?

 

[rakeshsehrawat]

Ek baat samajh nahi aati mere haam kaan ne ghuma ke kyun pakdan lag rahe hain????

Hum kehte hein hume CHUDA,CHAMAAR, DHANAK Whatever kaho. kyon? hum ye kyon nahi kehte ki dhanak ko dhanak mat kaho chamaar ko chamaar mat kaho. Gandhi shyana tha naam de gaya HARIJAN bhagwan ke aadmi .. Kunsa koni? sab hain . Congress humesha angrezo ke kaanoon chalati hai aur unka sabse bada hathiyar tha FOOT DALO RAAZ KARO yehi ye kar rahi hai. Arakshan de diya .. aur badha diya aur badha diya... Logo ke man mein harijan ke khilaf nafrat ho gayee aur agar ye chalta raha to ye jatiwad ki deewar sabko apne neeche dafan kar degi. 20 saal se upar ho chuke hain arakshan ko lagu hue . Ab hume sarkaar se gujarish karni chahiye ki arakshan kam karo . Har saal agar 2% bhi arakshit seate kam hoti hain to 25 saal aur lagenge arakshan ko khatam hone mein . Sayad tab tak SC/ST/BC na rahe lekin congress yehi karegi ki arakshan ka % badhayegi. Mera congress se khilafat ka siraf ek yehi karan hai. Har saal arakshan ko badhane ke bahane ye logo ko bantne ka kaam kar rahi hai. Rohtak mein ek jat baitha hai jiske pass adhikar hai takat hai lekin jise ye nahi pata ki adhikar aur takat ko apne samaj ki bhalai ke liye istemal kiya ja sakta hai. Magar sahab karenge nahi agar kar diya to log vote nahi denge. Sayad hum hi jat se jyada umeed kar lete hain . is se aacha Bhajanlal hai apne logo ke liye khul ke kaam karta hai.

 

[jitendershooda]

1)If you meant that among those few teachers from RC lets add a few more Jats from RC then think again....well to be precise less number of incompetents(teachers from RC) will harm in lesser quantity....more will haram more....so if because of such incompetent teachers 30 percent of students dont get good education then lets not make it say 40 percent or 50 percent by giving more incompetent(Jats in RC)
2)Same is the case with doctors....lets not add more numbers of incompetent doctors keeping the life of patients at stake....aapke kehne ka yeh matlab hai ki agar dusre log gandgi machaye toh hum log peeche kyu rahe....we should also help them and mess up in better way

Deepika it will be better if we first go through the rules and process of seat allocations under reservation in india.

Just an example,

What happens if some caste is included in a presently undergoing category and percentage allocated for reservation?

Ans. We take example of Yadav's.

1) Yadav's got included in BC-B category.
2) BC-B category have 11% reservation.
3) Now this means Yadav's will fight for 50% of general seats as well as 11% of BC-B seats.
4) A Yadav candidate securing enough marks to make selection in general category will be first considered in open. Like this year Medical list that I put across contains 19 BC-B category students who have secured enough marks that they will get admission in general list rather than BC-B.
5) Now from rank no 20 in BC-B list till 33 rank in bc-B list. The candidates will be considered as BC-B and they will get MBBS.
6) Now from rank no 33 till 38-39 will be consumed in BDS.
7) Important point to be looked is that out of the ranks 20-38-39 the positions captured by Yadavs is 14/19. Which comes out to be 73.6%.
This shows that the benefit of BC-B which was availed by other castes earlier is now majorly taken by Yadav's.

What are the impacts:

a) Competition within BC-B RAISED due to Yadav's.
You can compare previous years results and you will find that the ranking verces marks ratio is increasing.

So it is evident that the quality of candidates being selected is increased by putting more castes under BC-B and same will be for others.

b) Now people will argue that this is not good as this way we are snatching the real benefits from other castes who were there in that category.
So, thing should be noted that earlier too it was not availed by the real needy ones in majority. As people well off from those castes were the ones who were getting benefitted, which was itself not morally or logically good.

8) This way putting jats under any other category will only increase the competition and hence quality of overall candidates. Also there will be 11% only and not like what you have said 40 instead of 30. Resultant will be 30 candidates with more capability than candidates who were there earlier.
9) Indirectly this is the way of nullifying reservation and increasing quality.

 

[jitendershooda]

Jitender, still you are taking it on a different track. A doctor saves a life.So lets be specific here about reservation in medical studies at graduate and post graduate level. My point is on quality and yours on quantity.You are emphasing on increasing quantity based on reservation and I'm up for increasing infrastructure for General seats without compromising with quality.

It shall be fought the same way as the Jat reservation but if it is for greater common good then other communities are going to join and support it.

Samar,

It might be the case of different composition of chemicals in our minds by which I and you are looking at the same thing differently. Like you are finding my approach quantitative, I am finding yours.

I am not emphasizing of quantity instead I am emphasizing on quality. Please go through my post to deepika.

See, PGIMS Rohtak is the place where majority of patients go from across haryana. Now each year doctors will increase in the same proportion 11% BC-B etc. there. Means each year there will be less quality and people like you would say NO but a common man will not be able to do so.

This way we are increasing risk to his life selecting less competitive doctors under reservation. On the other hand if more castes will be included in the existing pools of reservations it will increase the competition and thus quality. Hence, looking at overall quality perhaps some day you will also recommend somebody to avail facilities as quality will be better then.

Yes, on the other side point of yours to increase institutions is good and will take place gradually. There is a need of quality check there too. Like few new IITs are opened and last year one of my known didnt opt for new IIT instead he chosen established REC. So increasing institutions shouldnt mean to dilute quality instead they should maintain them as per world wide standards.

Now if we look at the medical side. More institutions will have same reservation and thus there too less competitive candidates will be selected and serve. On the other hand the brilliant candidates will be drained to other countries for greener pastures. You can have a look at the record of doctors drained from AIIMS in past years leaving patients behind at risk.

 

[deepika]

Its a shame that we jats have to go through rules and process for RC seats....and we call ourselves jats after that.....such an irony....but anyways some hardcore RC seeker like you have to do it.....so that jat younger generation can stop studying hard and can have fun as lot of uncles like Jitender hooda jee are putting lot of efforts in making their dreams come true without much of hard work

Deepika it will be better if we first go through the rules and process of seat allocations under reservation in india.

Just an example,

What happens if some caste is included in a presently undergoing category and percentage allocated for reservation?

Ans. We take example of Yadav's.

1) Yadav's got included in BC-B category.
2) BC-B category have 11% reservation.
3) Now this means Yadav's will fight for 50% of general seats as well as 11% of BC-B seats.
4) A Yadav candidate securing enough marks to make selection in general category will be first considered in open. Like this year Medical list that I put across contains 19 BC-B category students who have secured enough marks that they will get admission in general list rather than BC-B.
5) Now from rank no 20 in BC-B list till 33 rank in bc-B list. The candidates will be considered as BC-B and they will get MBBS.
6) Now from rank no 33 till 38-39 will be consumed in BDS.
7) Important point to be looked is that out of the ranks 20-38-39 the positions captured by Yadavs is 14/19. Which comes out to be 73.6%.
This shows that the benefit of BC-B which was availed by other castes earlier is now majorly taken by Yadav's.

What are the impacts:

a) Competition within BC-B RAISED due to Yadav's.
You can compare previous years results and you will find that the ranking verces marks ratio is increasing.

So it is evident that the quality of candidates being selected is increased by putting more castes under BC-B and same will be for others.

b) Now people will argue that this is not good as this way we are snatching the real benefits from other castes who were there in that category.
So, thing should be noted that earlier too it was not availed by the real needy ones in majority. As people well off from those castes were the ones who were getting benefitted, which was itself not morally or logically good.

8) This way putting jats under any other category will only increase the competition and hence quality of overall candidates. Also there will be 11% only and not like what you have said 40 instead of 30. Resultant will be 30 candidates with more capability than candidates who were there earlier.
9) Indirectly this is the way of nullifying reservation and increasing quality.

 

[jitendershooda]

Its a shame that we jats have to go through rules and process for RC seats....and we call ourselves jats after that.....such an irony....but anyways some hardcore RC seeker like you have to do it.....so that jat younger generation can stop studying hard and can have fun as lot of uncles like Jitender hooda jee are putting lot of efforts in making their dreams come true without much of hard work

Only the bold words needs to be addressed in your post.

What is evident from the Yadav's percentage in PMT is that their children are making more and more efforts (perhaps looking more seats and scope). You yourself can look and compare their success percentage than previous years.

A feeling or illusion that their wards will stop working hard after getting into any category is false according to statistics.

 

[anilsangwan]

जाट आरक्षण का विरोध करने वाले लोगों को ये समझने की आवशयकता है की आरक्षण एक "Added Advantage" है .... ना कि कुछ छीन रहा है आप से .....विरोधी भाई .... एक नुक्सान तो गिनवा दयो ....आक आरक्षण मिले पाछे योह नुक्सान हो जागा ?? जीतू भाई ने उदाहरण और आंकडो के साथ समझाया है कि कैसे आरक्षण के बल पर अपनी कौम का भला हो सकता है ....

मान लिया कि जाटलैंड पे बहुत से मेम्बेर्स को आरक्षण कि आवशयकता नहीं है.... लेकिन यह मत भूलो कि आप सब ही पूरी जाट कौम नहीं हो...... बहुत से जाट मध्यम और उस से नीचे कि श्रेणी में हैं..... जिनको जरुरत है..... गाँव के लोगों को जरुरत है.... शायद मैंने और जीतू ने ऐसे लोगों को नजदीक से देखा है ....शायद कुछ और भाइयो ने भी देखा हो......


भाई बात साफ़ सी स ...... जब यादव आरक्षण का लाभ ले सकते हैं ......तो फेर जाटों ने के मोरडी के डला मार दिया भाई ....? आरक्षण को या तो बिलकुल हटा दयो .... या फेर इसको जाटों को भी दयो .... बात ख़तम !!!

मुख्यमंत्री श्री हूडा साब..... और सांसद साब .... कहाँ हो ?? थम भी तो जाट सो.........आवाज उठाओ संसद और विधानसभा में ...........आक जाट कौम ने छोड़ कि....."छतीस बिरादरी" के हो लिए थम...वोट के चक्कर में ,? ??




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[satyenderdeswal]

Waise bhai arakshan ka to pata nahi , per POLL results ek cheese dikha rahey hai ki Adhiktar JAT ya to STRONGLY AGREE hai ya phir STRONGLY DISAGREE:rock

जाट आरक्षण का विरोध करने वाले लोगों को ये समझने की आवशयकता है की आरक्षण एक "Added Advantage" है .... ना कि कुछ छीन रहा है आप से .....विरोधी भाई .... एक नुक्सान तो गिनवा दयो ....आक आरक्षण मिले पाछे योह नुक्सान हो जागा ?? जीतू भाई ने उदाहरण और आंकडो के साथ समझाया है कि कैसे आरक्षण के बल पर अपनी कौम का भला हो सकता है ....

मान लिया कि जाटलैंड पे बहुत से मेम्बेर्स को आरक्षण कि आवशयकता नहीं है.... लेकिन यह मत भूलो कि आप सब ही पूरी जाट कौम नहीं हो...... बहुत से जाट मध्यम और उस से नीचे कि श्रेणी में हैं..... जिनको जरुरत है..... गाँव के लोगों को जरुरत है.... शायद मैंने और जीतू ने ऐसे लोगों को नजदीक से देखा है ....शायद कुछ और भाइयो ने भी देखा हो......


भाई बात साफ़ सी स ...... जब यादव आरक्षण का लाभ ले सकते हैं ......तो फेर जाटों ने के मोरडी के डला मार दिया भाई ....? आरक्षण को या तो बिलकुल हटा दयो .... या फेर इसको जाटों को भी दयो .... बात ख़तम !!!

मुख्यमंत्री श्री हूडा साब..... और सांसद साब .... कहाँ हो ?? थम भी तो जाट सो.........आवाज उठाओ संसद और विधानसभा में ...........आक जाट कौम ने छोड़ कि....."छतीस बिरादरी" के हो लिए थम...वोट के चक्कर में ,? ??




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[deepika]

aapke kehne ka matlab hai ki Yadavo wali category me apne aap ko count karvana bade garv ki baat hai.....Itihaas saakshi hai ki Jato nae kabhi bhikh nahi maangi....par abb woh bhi ho jayega RC me jaane ke liye.......all thanks to RC seekers

जाट आरक्षण का विरोध करने वाले लोगों को ये समझने की आवशयकता है की आरक्षण एक "Added Advantage" है .... ना कि कुछ छीन रहा है आप से .....विरोधी भाई .... एक नुक्सान तो गिनवा दयो ....आक आरक्षण मिले पाछे योह नुक्सान हो जागा ?? जीतू भाई ने उदाहरण और आंकडो के साथ समझाया है कि कैसे आरक्षण के बल पर अपनी कौम का भला हो सकता है ....

मान लिया कि जाटलैंड पे बहुत से मेम्बेर्स को आरक्षण कि आवशयकता नहीं है.... लेकिन यह मत भूलो कि आप सब ही पूरी जाट कौम नहीं हो...... बहुत से जाट मध्यम और उस से नीचे कि श्रेणी में हैं..... जिनको जरुरत है..... गाँव के लोगों को जरुरत है.... शायद मैंने और जीतू ने ऐसे लोगों को नजदीक से देखा है ....शायद कुछ और भाइयो ने भी देखा हो......


भाई बात साफ़ सी स ...... जब यादव आरक्षण का लाभ ले सकते हैं ......तो फेर जाटों ने के मोरडी के डला मार दिया भाई ....? आरक्षण को या तो बिलकुल हटा दयो .... या फेर इसको जाटों को भी दयो .... बात ख़तम !!!

मुख्यमंत्री श्री हूडा साब..... और सांसद साब .... कहाँ हो ?? थम भी तो जाट सो.........आवाज उठाओ संसद और विधानसभा में ...........आक जाट कौम ने छोड़ कि....."छतीस बिरादरी" के हो लिए थम...वोट के चक्कर में ,? ??




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[deepika]

Only weak people look for such alternatives rather than working hard...but anyways everyone has individual views....Do u mean to say that Yadav's percentage in PMT is increasing bacuse they r in RC?Its their determination to improve the quality of life and to strengthen the community so they are working hard towards it....Statistics dont hold good always....and its not illusion but obvious fact that if we get RC at this point of time it will make younger generation take things for granted....Even you have this illusion that things will be great if we get RC.....Ghee toh andhere mai bhi shamak jaaya karai.....koyle pai kitni e light maar kyo pher bhi na chamkai....So if one is brilliant one doesn't need bullshit called"Reserved Category"...only weak paeople think of holding u=such pillars which can help them from the blows of wind....RC leke apni jaat ki beizzati karvani mujhe nahi pata aap logo ko kaunsa sukh degi...but anyways best of luck......lets see what happens next....kal phir koi aur community jato ko dekh ke reservation maangegi....and will lead to bad consequences ofcourse.

Only the bold words needs to be addressed in your post.

What is evident from the Yadav's percentage in PMT is that their children are making more and more efforts (perhaps looking more seats and scope). You yourself can look and compare their success percentage than previous years.

A feeling or illusion that their wards will stop working hard after getting into any category is false according to statistics.

 

[deepika]

mai kuch aise jat logo ko jaanti hu jinhone apni higher secondary gaon se ki aur phir shahar me padh kar abb bahot prestigious companies me kaam kar rahe hai...and here i mean in every field including IT....jisko kuch banne ka irada ho aur mehnati ho usske liye financial crisis bhi koi jyada badi baat nahi rahti,bhagwan sab aap theek karte hai....aur jo log kaam karke raaji nahi aur bina padhe reh jaate hai gaon me unko toh aap chahe RC dilva dyo they will never be successful beings in their lives

Only the bold words needs to be addressed in your post.

What is evident from the Yadav's percentage in PMT is that their children are making more and more efforts (perhaps looking more seats and scope). You yourself can look and compare their success percentage than previous years.

A feeling or illusion that their wards will stop working hard after getting into any category is false according to statistics.

 

[vikassingh1]

Ideally there should be no reservation, whether for yadavs or jats or ghoodas or ghadaas...can that realistically happen?

No....

If reservation is here to stay for yadavs etc, then I guess jats should also make full use of it, if possible

brandishing one's ego (whether by claiming to be a proud jat or claiming superirority over yadavs or other SCs) is not going to give anyone a job or bring food to the table.

eventually working hard will ofcourse be important, but claiming pride over an opportunity would be foolish in my opinion.

 

[brainspeak]

Ideally there should be no reservation, whether for yadavs or jats or ghoodas or ghadaas...can that realistically happen?

No....

If reservation is here to stay for yadavs etc, then I guess jats should also make full use of it, if possible

brandishing one's ego (whether by claiming to be a proud jat or claiming superirority over yadavs or other SCs) is not going to give anyone a job or bring food to the table.

eventually working hard will ofcourse be important, but claiming pride over an opportunity would be foolish in my opinion.

correctly summed...

i am all for jat reservation...and wish it happens...as for those who r not interested...they can fill their forms as general category students...there is no stopping them..

 

[anilsangwan]

जी नहीं मैडम जी .... मुझे और आप को शायद जरुरत नहीं है रिज़र्वेशन की ..... लेकिन मेरे जाट भाइयों को है ........ यादवों की Category में खडा होना इतनी शर्म की बात भी नहीं है ....आज क दिन रिज़र्वेशन आज एक जातिसूचक शब्द नहीं बल्कि एक कौम की तरक्की का हथियार है ...... राजस्थान यह हजारो मीणा आज IAS officers हैं.... aur bahut si civil services mein hain..... तो क्या उनकी कम्युनिटी डूब गयी ? या फिर उनकी इज्जत घाट हो गयी.......अब यह मत कहना की आईएस बन गए तो क्या तीर मार लिया .... मीणा रहे तो जाटों से नीची जात के ही तो मैडम जी ....

आज यह जमाने में सिर्फ "जात" ke नाम पर आदमी का STATUS नहीं होता .... आदमी के पास अछी नौकरी और पैसा भी जरूरी है ताकि वोह अपने परिवार का पालन पोषण कर सके .... उनको अछी शिक्षा दे सके ...... तरक्की कर सके .........जिस दिन जाट यह नाटक छोड़ देगा की उसकी "बेइज्जती" हो जागी रिज़र्वेशन मिला तो ..... उस दिन से ही जाटों को आरक्षण मिलना आसान हो जाएगा ...... बात यह है की हमने अपनी झूठी शान यह चक्कर में इस तरफ आवशयकता अनुसार कार्येवाही नहीं की है ..... .



गाँव में जा कर किसी बीएः एम्एः बीएड आदि पास किये हुए बेरोजगार जाट लड़के से आप पूछना की नौकरी की जरुरत क्या चीज़ होती है .... और रिज़र्वेशन की उनको कितनी जरुरत है ..... और Kya अगर उनको यादवों यह लेवल पे जा कर अगर नौकरी मिल जाए तो क्या वोह लेगा ..... मेरा यकीन मानो .... 99 परसेंट लोग राजी होंगे .......



या फिर उस लड़के / लड़की से पूछना जो की MBBS या BDS में इस साल सिर्फ इस लिए नहीं लिए गए की वो जनरल Category में आते थे.... और यादव होते तो ADMISSION हो जाता ......Unse poochna ki Reservation se woh kaise prabhavit huye hain........aur unke liye kitna jaroori hai......शायद तभी अछे से समझ पाओ............. राम राम ......


मेरा ये पोस्ट सिर्फ आप यह लिए नहीं है .... ना ही आप पोस्ट को जवाब में लिखा है ,,,... यह मेरे विचार है की आरक्षण कितना जरूरी है .... शायद में गलत हूँ .....

aapke kehne ka matlab hai ki Yadavo wali category me apne aap ko count karvana bade garv ki baat hai.....Itihaas saakshi hai ki Jato nae kabhi bhikh nahi maangi....par abb woh bhi ho jayega RC me jaane ke liye.......all thanks to RC seekers

 

[mittu]

Looking for reasons and logics in highly absurd caste based reservation system does not make sense. we cannot argue over any stats/data as its a bad idea on the first place.
Although it would be very nice if Haryana government which does have full support from people cancels all caste based reservation and starts afresh with giving reservation or financial help to people below poverty line.

PS: We cannot remove reservation but we can negate the effects of reservation by including all castes under reservation

 

[deepika]

Its not about ego but about the self respect of the whole community... FYI only RC itself will not bring food on the table unless one works a little.....What do you mean by 'Opportunity" by the way?...Govt servants also get opportunity to take bribe to feed the family with the black money....So should they take it as that can also bring more food to their tables....Rajputs dont ask for reservation...Does it mean they are not concerned about the upliftment of their community?And if everyone wants to go and kiss the sh*t...does it mean we should also do it?Such hypocrites people are when they talk about yadav and other SC/ST category people they consider them inferior but when it comes to RC they want to be their brothers in arms...Being opportunist is not a good thing always....because everyday one comes across so many good and bad oppotunities....I pity RC seekers

Ideally there should be no reservation, whether for yadavs or jats or ghoodas or ghadaas...can that realistically happen?

No....

If reservation is here to stay for yadavs etc, then I guess jats should also make full use of it, if possible

brandishing one's ego (whether by claiming to be a proud jat or claiming superirority over yadavs or other SCs) is not going to give anyone a job or bring food to the table.

eventually working hard will ofcourse be important, but claiming pride over an opportunity would be foolish in my opinion.

 

[deepika]

I understand that it hurts when one doesn't get admission in desired course because of quota and to your surprise it happened with me also....despite securing distinction i couldn't get admission...but believe me i will never wish to be in that reservation category making others(those who are in general cateroy)feel bad for not getting admission despite scoring more marks than me....How can we just underestimate one's hard work for year/years?
Infatc this bloody reservation system should be abolished and as suggested by one member there should be reservation only for the people who are below poverty....Ho sakta hai mai galat hu par mere hisab se kewal apne hitt ka soch ke dusro ka nuksaan karni achi baat nahi...i have suffered so i know how it feels

जी नहीं मैडम जी .... मुझे और आप को शायद जरुरत नहीं है रिज़र्वेशन की ..... लेकिन मेरे जाट भाइयों को है ........ यादवों की Category में खडा होना इतनी शर्म की बात भी नहीं है ....आज क दिन रिज़र्वेशन आज एक जातिसूचक शब्द नहीं बल्कि एक कौम की तरक्की का हथियार है ...... राजस्थान यह हजारो मीणा आज IAS officers हैं.... aur bahut si civil services mein hain..... तो क्या उनकी कम्युनिटी डूब गयी ? या फिर उनकी इज्जत घाट हो गयी.......अब यह मत कहना की आईएस बन गए तो क्या तीर मार लिया .... मीणा रहे तो जाटों से नीची जात के ही तो मैडम जी ....

आज यह जमाने में सिर्फ "जात" ke नाम पर आदमी का STATUS नहीं होता .... आदमी के पास अछी नौकरी और पैसा भी जरूरी है ताकि वोह अपने परिवार का पालन पोषण कर सके .... उनको अछी शिक्षा दे सके ...... तरक्की कर सके .........जिस दिन जाट यह नाटक छोड़ देगा की उसकी "बेइज्जती" हो जागी रिज़र्वेशन मिला तो ..... उस दिन से ही जाटों को आरक्षण मिलना आसान हो जाएगा ...... बात यह है की हमने अपनी झूठी शान यह चक्कर में इस तरफ आवशयकता अनुसार कार्येवाही नहीं की है ..... .



गाँव में जा कर किसी बीएः एम्एः बीएड आदि पास किये हुए बेरोजगार जाट लड़के से आप पूछना की नौकरी की जरुरत क्या चीज़ होती है .... और रिज़र्वेशन की उनको कितनी जरुरत है ..... और Kya अगर उनको यादवों यह लेवल पे जा कर अगर नौकरी मिल जाए तो क्या वोह लेगा ..... मेरा यकीन मानो .... 99 परसेंट लोग राजी होंगे .......



या फिर उस लड़के / लड़की से पूछना जो की MBBS या BDS में इस साल सिर्फ इस लिए नहीं लिए गए की वो जनरल Category में आते थे.... और यादव होते तो ADMISSION हो जाता ......Unse poochna ki Reservation se woh kaise prabhavit huye hain........aur unke liye kitna jaroori hai......शायद तभी अछे से समझ पाओ............. राम राम ......


मेरा ये पोस्ट सिर्फ आप यह लिए नहीं है .... ना ही आप पोस्ट को जवाब में लिखा है ,,,... यह मेरे विचार है की आरक्षण कितना जरूरी है .... शायद में गलत हूँ .....

 

[suneet_rana]

UP me Jat ke liye jab reservation ke ek din pahle bhi hum JAT hi the or next day jab ami so kar utha to JAT hi tha................

or jo JAT shabad ka bajan pahle tha wo abhi tak hai..............

agar iska sab fayda utha rahe hai to hum kyu nahi................

kam se kam isi ke bahane Jat kuch age badhne ki to sochenge

baat agar reservation hatane ki hai to jad se khatam hona chahiye nai to bahti gange me haath dhone me koi burai nahi hai

 

[brainspeak]

UP me Jat ke liye jab reservation ke ek din pahle bhi hum JAT hi the or next day jab ami so kar utha to JAT hi tha................

or jo JAT shabad ka bajan pahle tha wo abhi tak hai..............

agar iska sab fayda utha rahe hai to hum kyu nahi................

kam se kam isi ke bahane Jat kuch age badhne ki to sochenge

baat agar reservation hatane ki hai to jad se khatam hona chahiye nai to bahti gange me haath dhone me koi burai nahi hai

sat vachan!!

 

[vikassingh1]

I was not addressing the post to you. (Did you see me quoting you? NO!)
As I had said earlier once, I do not talk to imbeciles like you.

Conversation happens only between 2 or more well meaning people who have open minds to both listen and atleast try to understand what the other person is saying. In your case that is not present.

You just start firing wildly and your points never have any gravity in them. All you end up in proving is your own immaturity and poor communication skills.

So kindly excuse.

PS: I would recommend you should take some courses in effective communication skills and anger/ temper management. The manner in which you write your posts are horrendous for the lack of a better word. You get over excited and start firing away and attack a person instead of trying to attack a problem or situation that is being discussed. I have answers to what you have asked me, but I will not bother to say them as they will be followed by one more immature attack as always and as with all others here.

Keep in mind that just because you are a lady, does not give you the passport to travel to the land of rudeness. Behave with people in a manner in which you want people to behave with you.

Its not about ego but about the self respect of the whole community... FYI only RC itself will not bring food on the table unless one works a little.....What do you mean by 'Opportunity" by the way?...Govt servants also get opportunity to take bribe to feed the family with the black money....So should they take it as that can also bring more food to their tables....Rajputs dont ask for reservation...Does it mean they are not concerned about the upliftment of their community?And if everyone wants to go and kiss the sh*t...does it mean we should also do it?Such hypocrites people are when they talk about yadav and other SC/ST category people they consider them inferior but when it comes to RC they want to be their brothers in arms...Being opportunist is not a good thing always....because everyday one comes across so many good and bad oppotunities....I pity RC seekers