Getting married in same caste..

I will explain you with one simple scenario :

Suppose tu college me hai bhai. Your first day.. Tune ek ladki dekhi apni class me. Dekhne me sunder, chehre pe innocence, height bhi thik thak, suit salwar me hai. (You don't know her nature till now). Class me intro hua tujhe uska poora naam bhi pta chal gya. Tera sirname er uska sirname match nahi hua. Wa jaata ki bhi se. Tu raji hoya. Tane wa pasand aayi(pyar me or pasand me farak hai). Lab lagi, wo tere batch me aa gayi. Tu or bhi raji hoya. Tane uste baat karni shuru kari. 2-4 din tane baat kari uste. Uska nature tane badhiya laagya. Tu dheere dheere or attract hoya uski traf (still not love). Tane uska number bhi le liya eeb. Thare msg shuru hoge apas me. Shuru me baat kari "falani file bana li" "dhakdi assignment bana li" "makde ke test ki tayari kar li". She also replies in same vein. Thari baat or faltu hon laagi.. class me katthe baithan laag ge. Tnae wa or badhiya laagen laag gi --> your heart now starts beating for her. usko dekhte hi tere dil ki dhadkan tej hone lag jati hai. wo pass ati hai to dil me ek halki si sursuri hoti hia. If you touch her you feel sensations running all through your body (Kayi to shauk shauk me khoye marte chaalya kare choriya ke, m not talking about those guys here)

Fer tumne phone pe baat shuru kar di. Tane uski sari baat badhiya lage. wa kyukar bole se, kyukar lakhaawe se, kyukar baal bhawe se, kise latte pahre se, kisi baat kare se, caring kitni hai..tere sab janchya uska.

Tera jee karenn laag gya ak tu uste ghane te ghani baat kare. khoob time uske sath lagawe, tera roti khaan ne bhi ghaat jee kare. sove jib wa yaad aave, uthe jib wa yaad aave. Shingar karke tu college me jave ak usne suthra laagu mai. Apne sare aeb lako leve uste baat karti haan..Why??

Becoz now you are in LOVE with that girl and you don't want her to feel bad becoz of you!

You did all these things becoz your heart said all these things to you.

Did i miss somewhere that you din ask her mother's and grandmother's sirname?? I think you missed out this while doing shingar-patti and making yourself a good person in her eyes.

Big question --> What if now one of the sirname matches?? Its a totally different topic to discuss.

All I wanted to make you feel was that love happens just like that. You can't think and love. If you are thinking in your mind if to love this girl or not, then you are not into love.










PS : Ye mere apne vichar hai pyaar ke bare me. aapke vichar bhinn ho sakte hai!

Deepak, yo school kit khol raha hai tu.
 
I think, marriage is not only a knot between two person but it is a knot between two families as well....nowadays many girls thinking of just ki bas mai aur mera husband, which is not good and not fit socially...sirf husband nahi puri family ko sath lekar chalna hota hai..apni caste me adjustement easily hota hai, bcoz both hav almost same upbringing with jat values and culture...aur fir jat to jat hota hai :) ...only a jat guy can handle a jat girl :)
I strongly believe in marriage in same caste...and i dont think ki pyar andha hota hai...i saw many examples in society jaha log pyar-2 chilla kar shaadi kar lete hai aur baad me realize hota hai ki pyar to kahi tha hi nahi...
 
At last, Something to cheer for JAT Guys.
Jaat ladka ho ya ladki use koi aur cast wala jhel bhi ni sakta.........
dusri caste wlo ko to neend bhi ni aati agar kisi jaat se relation ( shadi type) ho jye to.......hahhahahhahahhahahha

gaam me e dekh lo agay 4-5 chamar ya chude ladai karte honge aur koi ek jaat khali hath ja k 2-3 gaal bak de to sare chup chap ghar chale ja se nu bolte bolte ki JAAT chad ra se.........hahahahahha
 
Jaat ladka ho ya ladki use koi aur cast wala jhel bhi ni sakta.........
dusri caste wlo ko to neend bhi ni aati agar kisi jaat se relation ( shadi type) ho jye to.......hahhahahhahahhahahha

gaam me e dekh lo agay 4-5 chamar ya chude ladai karte honge aur koi ek jaat khali hath ja k 2-3 gaal bak de to sare chup chap ghar chale ja se nu bolte bolte ki JAAT chad ra se.........hahahahahha

Kati sahi kaha bhai Vikas. Na to jat ki chhori doosra koi sambhal sakta arr naa jaat ka chhora kisi pe sambhalta.
Chhori te doosre ke naak me dum kar de se, arr doosra ke naak me nakel ye chhore ghal de sain.
par ya baat sab ke thodi vaari samajh me aave se.
Jib phans le se naa, jib!
 
No Easy Answers...

Dear All,

Let me begin by admitting that it is actually very difficult for the present generation to handle the institution of marriage. The reasons are many; education, awareness, competition, peer pressure, social pressures, ‘rat race’, so called equality of the fairer sex, immigration to areas away from home for work and education and the thought of being ‘liberalized’. I think all of us who are over 50 really had it easy at least when it came to the issue of marriage. I think we were brought up in a manner wherein for us to accept whatever our parents decided or did was nothing but the gospel truth. We didn’t do too badly either! See the number of young JAT Gold Medalist. It would be worthwhile for someone to carryout a little research on the parents of these Gold Medalists and find out how many of them have married outside the caste or within the same GOTRA.

Another major change is the different pulls and pressures exerted in a joint family versus a single family structure. I have absolutely no doubt that it is hugely advantageous to marry within the same caste (JAT must marry a JAT) and also avoid at least Two GOTRAS (self and mother’s) if not three (self, mother’s and grandmother’s). Some would argue as to why? The counter argument is why not? And if some say they don’t believe in all this ‘GOTRA’ business, then there is absolutely no argument thereafter. Go marry your brothers / sisters. I don’t know what would be the reaction of a present day JAT family towards a child who marries say within mother’s GOTRA. I believe even single families, leave alone joint ones, would not take very kindly to this.

Is the JAT society capable of accepting few cases of exceptions? I think yes. I have seen cases wherein people have accepted those who have married outside the caste. When it comes to acceptance, I think it is easier to accept those who have married outside the caste then those who marry within the same or mother’s GOTRA.

I believe there is also a yearning in our younger generation to know and understand what JAT actually stands for and why we are what we are. Progress of any kind should not take us away from our roots. When society gets educated, deeper should be the pursuit for its roots; culture and traditions.

Best regards,

JS Malik
 
Dear All,

..of being ‘liberalized’. I think all of us who are over 50 really had it easy at least when it came to the issue of marriage. I think we were brought up in a manner wherein for us to accept whatever our parents decided or did was nothing but the gospel truth. We didn’t do too badly either! See the number of young JAT Gold Medalist.

I believe there is also a yearning in our younger generation to know and understand what JAT actually stands for and why we are what we are. Progress of any kind should not take us away from our roots. When society gets educated, deeper should be the pursuit for its roots; culture and traditions.

Best regards,

JS Malik

Malik Sir,

A very well put post i must say. But would like to mention that the ease you had at the time of marrigae in your times was precisely because of the less "liberalised" world then. Hardly anyone except a few, was working in a cross-cultural environment like the army and some other services. Jaats were even late to arrive on the service sector scene because of their agricultural background. So less of mingling with the outside castes and the world. Those who have had the exposure in the earlier times are even more accepting in their behaviour to the present day trends.

Also to the inter caste marriages scenario and your own logic of leaving two-three gotras, i think the cross breeding in case of inter caste marriages should produce even superior offsprings genetically. I would comment more later on your post .
 
marriage shall be an indivisual choice. and intercaste marriage is great to know that we are human first and later from any caste nationality or religion.
there are certain charather attributes in being a jat caste. we shall respect our culture though not be blindfolded in custom to hinder the growth for future generation. any kind of violence is non progressive towards the betterment of humanity. while we respect our culture we must reaspect the indivisuality of our friends and family members. it is the fear inside us that takes us to resist things.
 
What I think is, Parents should remove castism from there mind, and make there children marry with the person they want, only if they think they are compatible to each other, i am not saying that, Parents should make there children free to marry anyone but atleast once they should try to know what there children want!
 
What I think is, Parents should remove castism from there mind, and make there children marry with the person they want, only if they think they are compatible to each other, i am not saying that, Parents should make there children free to marry anyone but atleast once they should try to know what there children want!

Interesting thinking but जाति वो चीज़ है जो कभी नहीं जाती

Further lets assume if girl finds a Dhed i.e chuda/chamar/Dhanak enough compatible and head to toe in love with girl [ and girl too ] . Shall that girl go to marry him and convey the same to her parents?
 
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people should marry in their caste only but if someone didn't get girl in own caste then he may marry some keralite or bangla girl who cares
 
same or inter caste marriage.it depends upon 2 person who are going to marry.depend karta hai ki girl and boy kya sochte hai apni family ka.
agar kisi ko lagta hai ki uski family ko samaj mai koi prblm nahi hogi ya fir kahi jaye family hume kya karna.then it is easy to marry a girl/boy of other caste.
rahi baat love ki to love shadi ka mohtaaj nahi hota.love is to inse bahut aage badhkar hai.haa acha rahta hai ki jis boy/girl se love karo usse shadi ho jaye.
bahut baate matter karti hai.kisi ke liye family,kisi ke liye kuchh.apni family ke views ke baare mai sab jaante hai.so acha rahta hai ki agar pahle hi us level tak na jao jaha family ka oppose karna pade.
 
Some how i agree to all the above answers, culture is important, but the thing is we made culture, not culture made us, our ancestors years ago have settled the caste system, why still that concepts are in progress, we all adopted many things with time than why peoples haven't change their mind for love and relationships.
 
Some how i agree to all the above answers, culture is important, but the thing is we made culture, not culture made us, our ancestors years ago have settled the caste system, why still that concepts are in progress, we all adopted many things with time than why peoples haven't change their mind for love and relationships.

Why they shall NOT be in progress? Equality does exist but in cemetry,cremation grounds where all are dead.

Further, see the divorce rates in western counteries[Google it] and get your answer yourself. A bit further, there are 70-80% failed marrages out of 100. Lets move a bit further and out of these 80% divorce more than 50% divorces are initiated by your own gender.

For love and marriages it was Goethe who put it decades ago :-

Love is an ideal thing while marriage is a real thing.

People dwell in confusion, often, about real and ideal in love,marriage,relationships; educated, uneducated irrespectively.
 
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Love is an ideal thing while marriage is a real thing.

I have experienced it! and i am agree to you, Life without morals is nothing,All in all Love marriages are not as successful as Arrange ones..At last i want to say let parents decide your partners!
 
For love and marriages it was Goethe who put it decades ago :-

Love is an ideal thing while marriage is a real thing.

Goethe was wrong in saying so. love is something real and natural which spurts spontaneously out of one's heart while marriage is premeditated thought crafted by the crafty brains.
 
so you finally gave up. nice!!

No, i didn't, I just accepted what was real and true! I respect my parents. AND BTW here is answer..
Goethe was wrong in saying so. love is something real and natural which spurts spontaneously out of one's heart while marriage is premeditated thought crafted by the crafty brains.
 
Heart is an animal.

Anatomically, the humans are also animals driven by their animal instincts viz. hunger, thirst, sensuousness, pain, joy, greed, jealousy, etc. It is only the brain which makes them distinct from other animals. But basic instincts of human beings remain as animal as in other living beings and love is a basic instinct. It is a different thing that by virtue of our being blessed with a superior brain, we are able to control some of our basic instincts like love to a great extent as and when necessitated by our surroundings but can not kill the same. We can never stop the emotions of love emanating from our heart, we usually curb the same out of compulsion to suit parental or societal conveniences.
 
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