Let's Discuss UP Election: Opinions, Exits: Haathi, Haath, Kamal Aur Cycle!

ashishsehrawat9 said:
Amit bhai yeh to baat tik hai ki goverment BSP ki nahi aani is bar.

Lekin yeh bhi sach hai ki SP kai raaj mai crime,violence & corrruption kai alawa janta ko kuch nahi mila.UP public has seen that earlier,no need to explain that.

SP's condition is not like that it will be able to form the goverment on its own.

As per my estimate the number of seats which SP will get in the lection will be equal or +15-20 to the seats which the alliance of congress & RLD alliance will get. So the SP wont be able to act like a ruler which was the case last time when there was the govt of SP in the state.

As far as RLD is concerned,defiantely this time ,it will perfrom much better as the Anuradha choudhary is out of party.Is anuradha nai he party ka naas kiya hua tha................
Ab Ajit singh apne ladke kai kahe par chal raha hai aur apne dimag sai kaam........................

Jayant choudhary has many features of his grandfather...................................Ch. Charan singh............

SP will never want the formation of Western UP .........................He is a typical purabia.........................

JAAT HUMSEHA SAI AJIT SINGH KAI SAAT HAI NA KI ANURADHA CHOUDHARY KAI SAAT.........................
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ashish bhai@ u tell me shud jat touch feet of some chamari????
i mean u also know the ground reality if western up was or is formed it will be muslim land and not jat or yadav land whatever it is......
in western up currently 17 mla r of muslim....12jats,09yadavs,6gujjars,....so which part of western up are we talkin bout......
and let me tell u jats of bulandshar has always voted for mulayam coutesy kirnpal singh dont know bout thi tym though...........
brother this tym S.p wont be supporting any crimnals of ny time coz akhilesh has taken over from amar singh regime he was the scumbag......no party wanna endanger its future.......
the ground reality is tht common man wanna see akhilesh and not rahul gandhi,,,,,,

and bout anuradha let me tell u is tht she is as pure jat as ajit singh,but ajit always promoted himself and not anuradha .........

chaudhary charan singh was succesful coz of AJGR factor ,he got support from these caste and now i dont think so any of these cate support him other thn ours....yadav hv gone with mulayam,gujjars with chamari and rajputs with bjp and congress......

and i dont think so congress is goona get more than 40 seats....rld will be somewhere aroud 20......
s.p i tell u is gooona be somehere in 140-160.....
SO mulayam is becomin c.m for 4 th tym....
 
Bro everybody has different opinion.Why you are treating SC as intocuhables????????????

They also belong to Hindu religion............They are also Hindus.............

Every person do the favour of his community...............They what's wrong if the Mayawati do the favour of her caste?????????????

There is no deny in the fact that Mayawati has 10 times better administrative powers & skills that Mulayam singh yadav.There is no law & order in the govt of Mulayam singh yadav.

Mulayam always try to show the dictatorship when he is the alone in the govt.

SP is not going to get more than 100-110 seats.................

Congress will get 50+ seats..............................

For RLD it will around 20-30...............

for BSP 110-125 seats...................

for BJP -40-50 seats..............

nobody asks Anuradha choudhary.Whatever she is today ,she is only because of Ajit singh..................

Anuradha nai bhi 2 bar party badli thi pehle ,ak baar SP join ki thi aur ak baar BJP ...................2 Mahine mai apni aukad ka ptha lag gaya tha.............

You are talking about Muslims dominancy in the western UP .A muslim can never be the CM of western UP due to so many reasons .We can discuss those as well if u want.

If you like SP ,that's ur personal opinion.........................

There were many MLA's in the BSP govt who never touched the feet of Mayawati.........

For example Ashok rana from Bijnor.He was MLA in the Mayawati govt.He never touched the feet of mayawati.Only the persons who were hungry for Ministry used to do that...................
 
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KuldeepTeotia said:
bhai amit pehli baat to ye ki i m not from bagpat side(how u concluded that?) i m from bhatona(bhatonia/tewatia)..if u r from bulandshahr u must have heard about that place..and i have lived in bulandshahr as well (kaalaam)
and second is that main kisi mayawati ya kisi ki tarif nahi kar rha hoon.. i m just tryin to figure out which party would be more good for west up and jats on the basis of what have they done in past to the region..
and i know kiranpal very well my naniji belongs to his village only.he afcourse is a good and influential jat leader.
and as much police recruitment is concerned u urself have got the point i was tryin to acknowledge that in even in chamar raj chamar can not compete with us nor yadavs.
But in yadav raj it is jats gets down...i have no problem that mulayam spports yadavs..but i find that in maya raj jat gets more benifits of fair procedures...
and please these are just my own opinions as per my knowledge(which i m able to see on ground) i dont favour or against any party...
as if u r living in bulandshar u may have more knowledge abt which one is good.
i m giving my opinion on the absis of what i can see(on ground/practically) and feel ...sitting in delhi ..so plz dont take that any personal
only disscussing these party with each other we can have more clear vision...i could not have seen any thing about mulayam's party which i could see progressive...if u think we should spport him and his being cm would be good for us...please throw some light why and how he will be good for us..not just for polticians but also for every genral jat..
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kuldeep bhai @ i m not xctly from bulandshar but from sikandrabad.....
and here are my reason for all jats to vote for S.P and not B.SP .......
1..jats are on more friendly terms with yadavs thn chamars.....we share our hukka with them, chamars are allowed in our house or marriges of both caste......chamars work in the field of both.....why should our jat mla's should touch feet of some chamari instead y not to support mulayam.......

2..when mayawati govt is in state we jats face problem of sc/st acts ..we hv to think 10 tyms before beating chamars ..i rememer how one of jat borthers family ko maffi magni padi thi ek chamar se ,as he has beaten his son....dont u feel insulting...

3..mayawati hates jats most ...u remember bachhu singh case ...he fired at ambedkar at parliament.....so tht jealousy is always there...

4...what has maywati did for jats??????....ek reservation to dilaya nahi gaya 5 saal mein.....i knw mulayam wont be even supporting jat reservation coz of his own caste will not allow....

5..mayawati ne noida greater noida mein itna kam kara diya y not in merrut,bulandshahr,aligarh,mathura...........jo gujjar bhuke marte the ,ya bhans churaya karte the aj wo apni scorpio/safario par gujjar likhkar humein chidaya karte hai....

6...mulayam singh is from yadav caste ,which hv same culture and occupation as ours....agriculture....so when he makes some policies for farmer than not oly they get benefited we jats also get benefited.....

7..and do u remember kaise maya ne jat yadav police walo ki posting east me kar thi.....

so brother think b4 supporting...
 
amitkumar98 said:
kuldeep bhai @ i m not xctly from bulandshar but from sikandrabad.....
and here are my reason for all jats to vote for S.P and not B.SP .......
1..jats are on more friendly terms with yadavs thn chamars.....we share our hukka with them, chamars are allowed in our house or marriges of both caste......chamars work in the field of both.....why should our jat mla's should touch feet of some chamari instead y not to support mulayam.......
2..when mayawati govt is in state we jats face problem of sc/st acts ..we hv to think 10 tyms before beating chamars ..i remember how one of jat borthers family ko maffi magni padi thi ek chamar se ,as he has beaten his son....dont u feel insulting...
3..mayawati hates jats most ...u remember bachhu singh case ...he fired at ambedkar at parliament.....so tht jealousy is always there...
4...what has maywati did for jats??????....ek reservation to dilaya nahi gaya 5 saal mein.....i knw mulayam wont be even supporting jat reservation coz of his own caste will not allow....
5..mayawati ne noida greater noida mein itna kam kara diya y not in merrut,bulandshahr,aligarh,mathura...........jo gujjar bhuke marte the ,ya bhans churaya karte the aj wo apni scorpio/safario par gujjar likhkar humein chidaya karte hai....
6...mulayam singh is from yadav caste ,which hv same culture and occupation as ours....agriculture....so when he makes some policies for farmer than not oly they get benefited we jats also get benefited.....
7..and do u remember kaise maya ne jat yadav police walo ki posting east me kar thi.....
so brother think b4 supporting...
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Please also consider my points once.
1)As far as tocuhing of feet is concerned,its upto you.nobody can force u too touch his/her feet.There wany MLA's in the BSP goverment who never toched the feet of Mayawati.Sirf chapdus log he per chute thai Mayawati kai.
2)Every person support his/her community.Hooda/Chautala support jats in Haryana............Casteism is everywhere in India.Mulayam singh nai bhi apne time mai yadavo ki he barti karwayi hai chaie vo koi bhi department ho.........Mayawati kai time jaats har k govr departement mai placed hue hai ,mostly in police.Jaats have also abused Mayawati 2 times.Once by tikait & secondly the case of Congess MLA Pankaj Malik.Even then she aggreed to make a compromise with Tikait.
3)Maywati knows the power of jaats & she also knows things depends upon the jat community a lot in Western UP.
4)Mulayam nai bhi Jaato ko reservation nahi dilwaya.Atleast Mayawati sent the proposal for jaats reservation to centre & for the formation of Western UP.atleast Mayawati belongs to western UP.Mulayam ak kattar purabia hai he never wants the wellfare of Western UP.
5)noida Mayawati ka hometown hai islie usne vaha itna developemnt karaya hai.Mulayam nai kaun sai western UP mai development ki lehar la rakhi thi.....................Jo airport Sefai mai banwaya tha usse Meerut mai kyo nahi banwaya.....................bolo bhai...............
6)Its true that yadavs have the similar culture to jaats.no doubt in that.Do the Mulayam have done any favour for the farmers of eastern UP even.If you think ,please share ur point here.
7)I even personally knows many jaats police officiers placed in Western UP.Is baar ki police ki barti fair hui thi ,usme 25-30 % jaats select hue thai.Mulayam singh kai raaj mai jaato kai jo kaam hote thai vo islie hote ki ,RLD bhi saat mai thi goverment mai..................
Even i have listened that the reason of separation of SP & RLD was that the yadav officers dont listen to Ajit singh during the SP goverment.Due to this Ajit singh decided to withdraw his support & after that the goverment was down......................
 
UP election is far more uncertain than it seems. Large poll turnout is one good sign, people are more aware these days. I think voting will be more on the basis on candidate's character instead of which party it belongs to. So it is really tough to say who will come to power.
 
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so you mean Jats should touch feet of some Ahir "mulayam singh"? wo ke jaato kaa fufa lag raha hai.....arr bhai jisne politics main rehna hai usne per to chhune hee padenge..... tell me how many jat leaders SP has, even the congress and BSP has far more numbers than SP. The biggest anti jats in UP is mulayam singh, he only supports those jats in UP, which he thinks can be any harm to Ajit singh.
amitkumar98 said:
ashish bhai@ u tell me shud jat touch feet of some chamari????
i mean u also know the ground reality if western up was or is formed it will be muslim land and not jat or yadav land whatever it is......
in western up currently 17 mla r of muslim....12jats,09yadavs,6gujjars,....so which part of western up are we talkin bout......
and let me tell u jats of bulandshar has always voted for mulayam coutesy kirnpal singh dont know bout thi tym though...........
brother this tym S.p wont be supporting any crimnals of ny time coz akhilesh has taken over from amar singh regime he was the scumbag......no party wanna endanger its future.......
the ground reality is tht common man wanna see akhilesh and not rahul gandhi,,,,,,

and bout anuradha let me tell u is tht she is as pure jat as ajit singh,but ajit always promoted himself and not anuradha .........

chaudhary charan singh was succesful coz of AJGR factor ,he got support from these caste and now i dont think so any of these cate support him other thn ours....yadav hv gone with mulayam,gujjars with chamari and rajputs with bjp and congress......

and i dont think so congress is goona get more than 40 seats....rld will be somewhere aroud 20......
s.p i tell u is gooona be somehere in 140-160.....
SO mulayam is becomin c.m for 4 th tym....
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bishanleo2001 said:
so you mean Jats should touch feet of some Ahir "mulayam singh"? wo ke jaato kaa fufa lag raha hai.....arr bhai jisne politics main rehna hai usne per to chhune hee padenge..... tell me how many jat leaders SP has, even the congress and BSP has far more numbers than SP. The biggest anti jats in UP is mulayam singh, he only supports those jats in UP, which he thinks can be any harm to Ajit singh.
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mulayam has 5 jat mla and thts coz we jats hvnt been faithfull to mulayam, coz we hv had grown enimity with yadavs over time coz they hv dominated the obc tag......its coz we r out numbered by them ......as i told jats of bulandshahr has been voting for s.p in past and they will contiuing tht......do you know y ch.charan singh has a succesful carrier coz we used to get whole hearted support from yadvs,gujjars and rajputs coz he considerd him as there own....so whats wrong in now supporting mulayam singh.......and if evn if we cant do that than y only mayawati ????
y not rld or bjp?????
 
I think an unbiased person should be preferred rather than a person from your caste. We have to come out of this caste politics and should look for candidates who are rational and really good for the society.
 
i m totally agree with u ashish bhai western u.p. ke jaato ko jitna fayda mayawati regime me hua utna kabhi kisi govt. me nahi hua police bharti pehli baar itni fair hui hai aur first time itne jaat boys police me aaye & not only in police in other services also mulayam ke time me to sirf ahirwad aur mullawad havi tha
 
balraaj said:
i m totally agree with u ashish bhai western u.p. ke jaato ko jitna fayda mayawati regime me hua utna kabhi kisi govt. me nahi hua police bharti pehli baar itni fair hui hai aur first time itne jaat boys police me aaye & not only in police in other services also mulayam ke time me to sirf ahirwad aur mullawad havi tha
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bhaio fir yeh batao ki humein mayawati ko vote de????
yaar tumhe bhi pata hai ki sarkar s.p ki hi banegi......coz congress and rld are fighting against mayawati regime...chamari ke against hi to vote maang rahe hai wo????kya wo maya ko hi support karenge c.m bane ke liye?????
and u also know tht congress+rld cnt win enough seats to form govt ..so the only option left is mulayam as bjp is out of option...........so u tell me kal mulayam c.m banega to y shud he support jats when we cant support him coz he is a yadav ,i mean we are makin him anti -jat.....

ground reality is that in rajasthan we are dominated and suppresed by rajputs...
in uttar pradesh by yadavs.....
we hv our say only in harayana as in whole........there two we had some problem initially when there was lack of unity in jats thats y only non-jat c.m in haryana came in to power i guess he was 2nd chief minister of haryana who was from yadav caste.....

i think jats of rajasthan and up are not united even ..........
 
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हरियाणा में देखलो, निर्दलीय व हजंका से आये विधायक मलाई खा रहे हैं इन लोगो ने मौके की नजाकत को सही समझा और कांग्रेस की मज़बूरी का पूरा फायदा उठाया | कांग्रेस के दिग्गज विधायक जो मंत्री की कुर्सी की बाँट देख रहे थे वो सिर्फ विधायक बन कर रह गए और जो निर्दलीय विधायक कभी इन कांग्रेसी विधायको के वर्कर होते थे आज इनके ऊपर मंत्री हैं | ये निर्दलीय विधायक जब चाहे सरकार से अपना हाथ खींच ले | एक मिसाल के तौर पर कांग्रेसी विधायक चौ.धरमवीर सिंह की बता दू जो इस राजनीति के शिकार हुए | संसदीय सचिव चौ.धरमवीर सिंह को पंचायत के साथ-साथ खेल का महकमा भी दिया था पर बाद में उन्होंने खेल वाला महकमा छोड़ दिया क्योंकि उस महकमे का मंत्री चौ. सुखवीर कटारिया था | चौ.धरमवीर सिंह ने कहा की अब मैं इसके नीचे रहूँगा के जो कभी हमारे नारे लगाता था |
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यशपाल मालिक ठीक हांगा ला रया स उसकी मज़बूरी स | यशपाल मालिक को चाहिए जाट आरक्षण का श्र्ये और मलिक साहब को डर हैं के यो श्र्ये अजीत सिंह ले जागा | डर भी साचा स ,श्र्ये अजीत सिंह ले गया तो फिर इनको नेता कौन मानेगा ? यशपाल मलिक कसुता भुताश रहा हैं उसे पता हैं की आरक्षण मिला तो यु.पी में सारा श्र्ये अजीत सिंह को जायेगा , हरियाणा में हुड्डा ले जायेगा | इसलिए वो कहते फिर रहे हैं की कांग्रेस का विरोध करूँगा सभी राज्यों में | अब कोई उनसे पूछे की पंजाब में के कांग्रेस राज स , उड़े तो अकाली राज स उड़े एकली कांग्रेस विरोध का के तुक बने स |
ये साहब शाबाशी के भूखे स ज्या त इसी हरकत कर रहे हैं | शाबाशी , श्र्ये इन सबकी भूख राजनेता को होया करे, जाति समाज के काम करने वालो का इन शाबाशियों श्र्ये से क्या लेना देना ?
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bhai amit kumar for ur kind information rajasthan jaat dominated hai n punjab n haryana bhi....rajasthan mai jat 18% hee...total 200mla seat hai rajasthan mai usmai se 42jaat mla hai n 25mp seat hai usmai se 8jaat mp hai...jaat rajputo ke neeche pehle daabe hue the but ibb ultaa see...ibb rajput jaat n meena ke neeche daabe hue hai...mulayam se zeyada faida jaat ko bsp mai milega.....mulayam raaj mai kitne jaat sarkari naukri mai bartii huee thee...n bsp mai kitne hue hai....doosri baat mulayam saala muslmano ko full support karta hai n tht bastard is a full time anti jaat...mai to jaat cm deekhna chahta hu but thats not possible to jaato ka faida chamari raaj mai hi hai mulayam raj mai nahi...
 
amitkumar98 said:
bhaio fir yeh batao ki humein mayawati ko vote de????
yaar tumhe bhi pata hai ki sarkar s.p ki hi banegi......coz congress and rld are fighting against mayawati regime...chamari ke against hi to vote maang rahe hai wo????kya wo maya ko hi support karenge c.m bane ke liye?????
and u also know tht congress+rld cnt win enough seats to form govt ..so the only option left is mulayam as bjp is out of option...........so u tell me kal mulayam c.m banega to y shud he support jats when we cant support him coz he is a yadav ,i mean we are makin him anti -jat.....

ground reality is that in rajasthan we are dominated and suppresed by rajputs...
in uttar pradesh by yadavs.....
we hv our say only in harayana as in whole........there two we had some problem initially when there was lack of unity in jats thats y only non-jat c.m in haryana came in to power i guess he was 2nd chief minister of haryana who was from yadav caste.....

i think jats of rajasthan and up are not united even ..........
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Bhai kon se up main rehte ho aap...jhaan tak main janta hoon up main jaton k upper kisi ka suppression ya domination nahi hai..
ye khani rajastha main thi pehle jab rajputon ka domiontaion tha..par ab vhaan bhi ulta ho gaya hai..and jats of rajsthan are most united in todays date because they were supressed in history..
or west up,delhi or haryana main socially bhi jaton ko yadvon se uuncha mana jata hai..to kis supression ki baat kar rahe ho aap..
 
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i think bsp+rld+cong.. would be the best case for jats...so we should make rld more strong so that it could have a significant role in govt..

than we wil have
rld(whole from west up and about jats)+mayawati(from west u.p. or kuch bhi khoo she works for progress in west up)+cong(which will be for help from center too , which in turn will be good for whole up )
 
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KuldeepTeotia said:
i think bsp+rld+cong.. would be the best case for jats...so we should make rld more strong so that it could have a significant role in govt..

than we wil have
rld(whole from west up and about jats)+mayawati(from west u.p. or kuch bhi khoo she works for progress in west up)+cong(which will be for help from center too , which in turn will be good for whole up )
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teotia@ sahab congress and rld are fighting and askin 4 votes against mayawati....aur fir usi ko support karenge haan????....
accn to me it will be sp+cong or sp+rld ......

and i too very well know tht we jats are suppresed and are at disadvantage in rajasthan and up....if we are 18 % in rajasthan thn how come we dont hv our chief minister in rajasthan since independence????....bolo???
same case is in up..........
i also feel bad bout such supression of jats by rajputs but thats reality..........
 
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