Army toothless: General VK Singh drops letter bomb on government

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ये ठाकर बुढापे में सठिया क्यों जाते हैं ?
1990 -91 में पूर्व प्रधानमंत्री विश्वनाथ प्रताप सिंह ने सठिया कर एक ऐसा कदम उठाया जिसमे बहुत जान माल की हानि हुई , फिर 2004 -5 में अर्जुन सिंह ने सठिया कर इतिहास की किताबो में जाटों को लुटेरा बताया , ऐसे ही भाजापा के जसवंत सिंह सठिया गए थे और अब लगता हैं यह जनरल भी सठिया गया हैं इन्होने पहले तो रक्षा मंत्री को लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल दलबीर सिंह सुहाग के प्रमोशन की सिफारिश कि और अब उसी लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल दलबीर सिंह सुहाग के खिलाफ सी.बी.आई जांच कि सिफारिश कर रहे हैं | तृणमूल कांग्रेस सांसद अम्बिका बनर्जी कि जिस चिट्ठी के आधार पर जनरल साहब ने दलबीर सिंह सुहाग के खिलाफ जांच के लिए सीबीआइ को पत्र लिखा हैं , उस पत्र के लिए सांसद ने साफ़ मना कर दिया कि उन्होंने सेनाध्यक्ष को कोई पत्र नहीं लिखा |
 
In the procurement of Tatras, here are some simple points to think:-
a) The Army is user and ultimately the MOD,
b) The MOD is buyer
c) The MOD is seller.
d) The BEML PURCHASES FROM ABROAD AT RS 40 LAKHS PER VEHICLE, MOD fixes the price of rs 1.10 crores to sell to the Army
e) How can MOD take action on the issue raised by the COAS, when MOD isbuyer, seller and user
f) The Army being real user, has to initiate the purchase order as decided by the MOD, and ofcourse 14 crores is not a big ammount
g)The MOD is conspiretor, the colluder and collaborator
h) Antony should be jailed but like manmohan, he will say that he has no idea.
i) Kapil sibal will say with his arrogent smirk--zero loss as technically funds have moved from one head of account of Mod,(Army & BEML) BOTH UNDER MOD.
J) Ultimately, the legal brain in the congress will find ways and means to transfer the loot to the party fund, I happened to hear debates on many channels, where no one adresses the basic issues but get emotional aout terms like morales, loyalty and integrity. India is a great country and believes in re-conciliation and forgiveness, So nothing will happen.
 
ravinderjeet said:
देश विदेशिओं का गुलाम हो चुका हे | सारे निर्णय सोनिया ,एंथोनी ,अहमद पटेल लेत हें , ये कोण हैं इनके नाम से ही पता चल जाता हे | अब जनरल को टर्मिनेट या रिटायरमेंट तक छुट्टी पर भेजने का प्लान चल रहा ह जो आज शाम तक हो सकता हे | ये ही समय हे जनरल के लिए की सभी सांसदों को गिरफ्तार कर के संसद को जेल में तब्दील कर दो | देश अगले हजार साल इनका गुणगान करेगा |
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You have a point, but you know Indians are most selfish people and so are faujis being Indians, no, atlist no fauji will be able to take over, If Gen singh try, he will be arrested before such order comes out of his mouth. Another belief of mine is that a civillian in some good position with the help of defence services, can become dectator like Indira, but no fauji can take over the country atlist another few years, because I feel, Pap ka ghada, abhi pura bhara nahi hai and public still has some hope,
 
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There is no use to publish a complete article here. If the person is interested to refer than he/she can give a link of that website.

anilsangwan said:
Ghane rule regulations sein bhai tere Gulia saab.... moll le liye tenne to... likhan dega aak nahi?

Mods - kindly delete this post of mine once it is read by Yoginder bhai !
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V K singh is making things difficult for him, day by day he is losing his credibility of the highest post. He seems hapless these days.
 
Hi Prikshit ,

Do we have any proof which proves that he leaked that letter . He is a simple man with very high moral values , he did justice gen rath ( off-course by kicking him) ... which is a rare incident . Our govt is full of rascals and its not easy for an honest person to work peace fully here. I am with him and with every person who has balls to uncover wrong practices in the system .

Thanks and Regards
Sumit Chaudhary
 
Respected members,

There was a report telecasted by a news channel last year and by watching that you will come to know why this govt wants to remove this honest soldier and replacing him with a controversial figure Gen Bikram singh . All the charges may not be correct but their is something wrong with him.

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There is no doubt that General Singh is an honest person. There is lot of information with him which can put lot of influential persons in trouble. Hence an environment is being created to put the credibility of General Singh at stake by releasing the information in bits and pieces.

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Hi Prikshit ,

Do we have any proof which proves that he leaked that letter . He is a simple man with very high moral values , he did justice gen rath ( off-course by kicking him) ... which is a rare incident . Our govt is full of rascals and its not easy for an honest person to work peace fully here. I am with him and with every person who has balls to uncover wrong practices in the system .

Thanks and Regards
Sumit Chaudhary
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Yoginder Sir,

We have one the greatest govt and you said influential people he already surprised MMS and company . There are a lot of examples in which they tried to defame the whistle blowers and those who raised some serious questions against them but now they are trying to ruin one of the most respected org of this country . The best part is General Sahab is getting enormous support from general public and ex service man .

May god bless our country with some more people of his category who have guts to say no to such huge amounts of bribe and save the purity and sanity of their souls .

He proved that Honesty is the best policy .... and this policy forced this government to be on their knees.

Thanks and Regards
Sumit Chaudhary
 
My firend a situation has come where we pray: God bless India!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



SumitJattan said:
Yoginder Sir,

We have one the greatest govt and you said influential people he already surprised MMS and company . There are a lot of examples in which they tried to defame the whistle blowers and those who raised some serious questions against them but now they are trying to ruin one of the most respected org of this country . The best part is General Sahab is getting enormous support from general public and ex service man .

May god bless our country with some more people of his category who have guts to say no to such huge amounts of bribe and save the purity and sanity of their souls .

He proved that Honesty is the best policy .... and this policy forced this government to be on their knees.

Thanks and Regards
Sumit Chaudhary
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SumitJattan said:
Hi Prikshit ,

Do we have any proof which proves that he leaked that letter . He is a simple man with very high moral values , he did justice gen rath ( off-course by kicking him) ... which is a rare incident . Our govt is full of rascals and its not easy for an honest person to work peace fully here. I am with him and with every person who has balls to uncover wrong practices in the system .

Thanks and Regards
Sumit Chaudhary
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My point why all these things are coming out so late? Does his dignity was not in place when it happend ? I am in no support to the govt., present govt. is the worst of all times.
 
Dear friends

This general has gone crazy after loosing his date of birth in court and making baseless allegations. Why did he forward the letter to CBI after a year.A person with high moral would not wait for one year to take action. His only aim is to destroy the carrier of honest officers like Dalbir Singh, who are in line to become Chief of Army Staff. He would have been sacked if there is strong government in center. Antony is too soft to show the way to this general, who is demoralising the army.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-lt-gen-dalbir-suhag/articleshow/12477419.cms



SumitJattan said:
Hi Prikshit ,

Do we have any proof which proves that he leaked that letter . He is a simple man with very high moral values , he did justice gen rath ( off-course by kicking him) ... which is a rare incident . Our govt is full of rascals and its not easy for an honest person to work peace fully here. I am with him and with every person who has balls to uncover wrong practices in the system .

Thanks and Regards
Sumit Chaudhary
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Prikshit said:
V K singh is making things difficult for him, day by day he is losing his credibility of the highest post. He seems hapless these days.
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अगर जनरल वि.के. सिंह गलत लोगों के साथ लड़ रहे हैं ,तो हमें कम से कम उनका मोरल समर्थन तो करना चाहिए | भले ही कुछ जाट अफसर उसकी बलि चढ़ जाएँ | एक जाट के लिए रिश्वतखोरी करना ,अपनी माँ के साथ दुष्कर्म करने जेसा हे | जब हम दूसरों के लिए इमानदारी के व्यवाहर की अपेक्षआ करते हैं , तो उसमे जब अपने फंसें , तो हमारा व्यवाहर नहीं बदलना चाहिए | में राकेश सांगवान की पोस्ट से भी सहमत नहीं हूँ जिसमे उन्होंने जनरल सुहाग के विरुद्ध कार्यवाही पर राजपूत होने के कारण सठियाने का आरोप लगाया था | अगर जनरल सुहाग पाक साफ़ होंगे तोवो भी इस से बाहर निकल आयेंगे , और जनरल सुहाग पर अन्य व्यक्तिओं ने भी आरोप लगाए हैं | लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल हुड्डा ( अब रिटायर्ड ) कारगिल सहिदों के लिए बनने वाली आदर्श इमारत घोटाले में फंशे हुए थे | उनकी बीबी कब विधवा हुई थी कारगिल की लड़ाई में ? १५ करोड़ का घर एन.ओ.सी. देने के बदले में मुफ्त में ले लिया था |
 
SumitJattan said:
Respected members,

There was a report telecasted by a news channel last year and by watching that you will come to know why this govt wants to remove this honest soldier and replacing him with a controversial figure Gen Bikram singh . All the charges may not be correct but their is something wrong with him.

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Wow!! what breaking news..jo log Gen VK singh ko galat bata rahe hai..yeh news unkey muh par kisi chaate se kam nahi hai..Sumit Jattan Brother great JOB by you..
 
ravinderjeet said:
अगर जनरल वि.के. सिंह गलत लोगों के साथ लड़ रहे हैं ,तो हमें कम से कम उनका मोरल समर्थन तो करना चाहिए | भले ही कुछ जाट अफसर उसकी बलि चढ़ जाएँ | एक जाट के लिए रिश्वतखोरी करना ,अपनी माँ के साथ दुष्कर्म करने जेसा हे | जब हम दूसरों के लिए इमानदारी के व्यवाहर की अपेक्षआ करते हैं , तो उसमे जब अपने फंसें , तो हमारा व्यवाहर नहीं बदलना चाहिए | में राकेश सांगवान की पोस्ट से भी सहमत नहीं हूँ जिसमे उन्होंने जनरल सुहाग के विरुद्ध कार्यवाही पर राजपूत होने के कारण सठियाने का आरोप लगाया था | अगर जनरल सुहाग पाक साफ़ होंगे तोवो भी इस से बाहर निकल आयेंगे , और जनरल सुहाग पर अन्य व्यक्तिओं ने भी आरोप लगाए हैं | लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल हुड्डा ( अब रिटायर्ड ) कारगिल सहिदों के लिए बनने वाली आदर्श इमारत घोटाले में फंशे हुए थे | उनकी बीबी कब विधवा हुई थी कारगिल की लड़ाई में ? १५ करोड़ का घर एन.ओ.सी. देने के बदले में मुफ्त में ले लिया था |
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Kya baat kahi hai Ravinder ji .... desh drohi Jaat ....se.... desh Premin thakur humare liye kahi upar hai ....aur yahi rashtr dharam hai .... nice lines by you.
 
dangi said:
Dear friends

This general has gone crazy after loosing his date of birth in court and making baseless allegations. Why did he forward the letter to CBI after a year.A person with high moral would not wait for one year to take action. His only aim is to destroy the carrier of honest officers like Dalbir Singh, who are in line to become Chief of Army Staff. He would have been sacked if there is strong government in center. Antony is too soft to show the way to this general, who is demoralising the army.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-lt-gen-dalbir-suhag/articleshow/12477419.cms
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My dear young man, it seems that you are not in ful picture about the subject and in any case, please donot mind your comments are not at all correct
 
ravinderjeet said:
अगर जनरल वि.के. सिंह गलत लोगों के साथ लड़ रहे हैं ,तो हमें कम से कम उनका मोरल समर्थन तो करना चाहिए | भले ही कुछ जाट अफसर उसकी बलि चढ़ जाएँ | एक जाट के लिए रिश्वतखोरी करना ,अपनी माँ के साथ दुष्कर्म करने जेसा हे | जब हम दूसरों के लिए इमानदारी के व्यवाहर की अपेक्षआ करते हैं , तो उसमे जब अपने फंसें , तो हमारा व्यवाहर नहीं बदलना चाहिए | में राकेश सांगवान की पोस्ट से भी सहमत नहीं हूँ जिसमे उन्होंने जनरल सुहाग के विरुद्ध कार्यवाही पर राजपूत होने के कारण सठियाने का आरोप लगाया था | अगर जनरल सुहाग पाक साफ़ होंगे तोवो भी इस से बाहर निकल आयेंगे , और जनरल सुहाग पर अन्य व्यक्तिओं ने भी आरोप लगाए हैं | लेफ्टिनेंट जनरल हुड्डा ( अब रिटायर्ड ) कारगिल सहिदों के लिए बनने वाली आदर्श इमारत घोटाले में फंशे हुए थे | उनकी बीबी कब विधवा हुई थी कारगिल की लड़ाई में ? १५ करोड़ का घर एन.ओ.सी. देने के बदले में मुफ्त में ले लिया था |
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रविन्द्र्जीत भाई जी मैंने इस ठाकर के लिए सठिया शब्द का प्रयोग इसलिए नहीं किया की इसने सुहाग का नाम लिया हैं | सठिया शब्द इसलिए बरता हैं की पहली बात तो एक तरफ यह सुहाग के प्रमोसन की सिफारिस कर रहा हैं और दूसरी तरफ उसके खिलाफ जांच के आदेश भी दे रहा हैं | दूसरी बात , माना के जांच होनी चाहिए पर इसने जांच के लिए जिस सांसद के पत्र को आधार बनाया उस सांसद ने मना कर दिया की उसने यह पत्र सेनाध्यक्ष को नहीं प्रधानमंत्री को लिखा था |
बाकी मैंने इस देशभक्ति की भावना त किम्मे लेना देना कोणी ..... क्योकि दो काम एक साथ नहीं हो सकते ....... इबे मेरे में जातिवाद की भावना भरी स जिस दिन या मिट जागी उस दिन भगत सिंह बरगी देश भक्ति की बात करूँगा :)
आपना तो एक ऐ उसुल स के '' या तो खेल खिलाओ ना फेर खेल मिटाओ '' :)

 
dangi said:
Dear friends

This general has gone crazy after loosing his date of birth in court and making baseless allegations. Why did he forward the letter to CBI after a year.A person with high moral would not wait for one year to take action. His only aim is to destroy the carrier of honest officers like Dalbir Singh, who are in line to become Chief of Army Staff. He would have been sacked if there is strong government in center. Antony is too soft to show the way to this general, who is demoralising the army.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...-lt-gen-dalbir-suhag/articleshow/12477419.cms
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Respected Dangi Ji,


The word CRAZY for an on duty general is unsuitable .You are just proving the whole system of services as wrong . Its bit awkward for me if any insane person has used this word for him then there is no need for me to comment but as a member of this reputed platform its not expected from you.


Now answering your concern first of all he dint lost case of his DOB as per court he has to abide himself to the letters written by him regarding his DOB between 2008 and 2009 and as per him he wrote those those letters as per commitment from his generals and as per court he could have corrected his DOB in beginning of his Career. Court never said his DOB is 1950.




Your second allegation is regarding the letter forwarded by him to CBI …. Sir Ambika Banerjee wrote this letter to RM , Pm and Gen and RM and PM shown their impotency in order to take any action as SFF is not under army thats why he forwarded the letter to investigation agency and Dalbir Singh was in charge of the procurement of the weapons for SFF.


http://www.indianexpress.com/videos/national/6/ambica-banerjee-over-army-chiefs-new-allegation/8906


You said we have to sack him …… Do you have any solid reason other then your emotion to prove this . If Dalbir sigh did something wrong and if the other two people addressed in the letter didn't take any action in last one year then i think he did the best thing …SFF is not under army so he cant do any thing other then sending the req to appropriate agency . I am not sure about the meantal picture of Army people but i think they are feeling proud to have a man with balls and honor leading them.


Its a humble request please avoid these derogatory words like crazy.


Thanks and Regards
Sumit Chaudhary
 
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Prikshit said:
My point why all these things are coming out so late? Does his dignity was not in place when it happend ? I am in no support to the govt., present govt. is the worst of all times.
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I dont think they all are new things he screwed Gen Rath long back . Played a big role in Adarsh society case and had informed his seniors about the offered bribe and its still not clear who leaked the letter ........ He was doing all this cleaning from a long time .. thats why he is leaving soon .
 
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