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Dear Keshav,

I m 100% agree with u, one should proud to be JAT, if not, there is no use of his living, he/she is just like an animal.

keshavdahiya said:
Rekha can you plzz emphasize which Sunday (date) when this article was published and also if you can mention the page # plz.

As for the article and leaving a mark on how Jats (boys/girls) this is when and how we talk on this forum

How about Gujus (mostly chickens, cant say a word upfront) Biharis ( not much diff. from ^$#&**##^) and many more to compare looking at the different traits like life style, personality, eating habits, living standards.

TOI as per my opnion and also Chikara has mentioned....I dont need to say more.....is full of claptrap, errors, no relevant news

I am a proud JAT represnting my community anywhere I go and never heard anyone call me aggressive, foul mouthed, brawn or any issues using/having less gray matter... and I think we all need to prove and falsify the statements like these.

I didnt read all the thread....but browsed a few initial ones, where Bhavna Singh mentions that it goes well with budds in the formal/casual circle who know the dialect, but we shud be careful enough not to use language not understood or mistaken in a diverse gathering......not everybody understand our sense of humorology :) :p


But as Burdak ji said, we can get it clarified by TOI grp as to who/why this has been published !!
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keshavdahiya said:
How about Gujus (mostly chickens, cant say a word upfront) Biharis ( not much diff. from ^$#&**##^) and many more to compare looking at the different traits like life style, personality, eating habits, living standards.

TOI as per my opnion and also Chikara has mentioned....I dont need to say more.....is full of claptrap, errors, no relevant news
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This is a case of pot calling the kettle black. You are using stereotypes for Gujjus and Biharis to show them in a negative light and you have problems with TOI for using stereotypes to describe Jats. Ironic!
 
shweta123 said:
cho maanan ki baat bhi konii .... ya te katti sach hai .... mai jaan ke na boli thi akk kayi be-buddhi aud ne bhi bhej diya kare hain aajkal baahar doosre desh ke loga ke khopda khaa ke aan khaatarr :D ....

par kimme aur kuch na mila achievement bataan ko to bol diya agle ne ... :p
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baat chahae kuch bhi ho...chorra hai katai andyy jaat........majhe laagge ke " raake bhai" ofiice ke aala ki to katai pindi kaampe isne dekhte hi:D....
 
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anilsangwan said:
"They" are right Panney!! "Kudos" to "they"! And they has put very good "latttooo" in subject of your post!! kudos for that too :)

"We" is glad. :rock
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is "they" sticks around like a "lattoo "always to enlighten "we" or "they" wants to embarrass "we" how rude "us" is in manners....kudos to "they"

Rock on all "they"...........
 
well itne saare n itne lambe lambe replies to maine nahin padhe....

but i wil try to ans specifically those ppl who commented on my post....

firstly nishant...m not sayin v need to change ourselves drastically...but v need to make few changes so tht ppl respect us much more...

@ kapil...kabhi aapne delhi ke coll mein jaake dekha hai???
professional life bahut durr ki cheez hai....lekin yeh perceptions coll time se form ho jaate hein.....u know a decent girl cannot cross these guys in coll without inviting some comments frm them....
thr must b some reason y this general perception was formed abt jats....
i'll give u another eg...now this Mr. X is a Phd in chemistry....so then he must b brainy yeah?
jaake co. ke MD ko letter deke aaya ki mujhe VRS de do else i'll commit suicide....VRS scheme khatam ho chuki thi so he was kicked out of the co....n then he went crying bak ki mere chhote chhote bache hein.....
ab aap aise insaan ko kya kahenge?? bahut akal wala ya bewakoof???
n if u want more egs of these kinds then lemme know....
kafi real life egs hein mere pass padhe likhe jaaton ki jo ki aisi hi bewakoofi karte hein

@ rakesh ji....koi nahin jaanta ki mein jat hoon...aur na hi hum yeh poochne mein vishwas rakhte hein ki kaun kis caste ka hai...jiska bhi hai theek hai.....
mujhse aaj tak kisi ne nahin poocha ki meri caste kya hai n mein batana bhi zarrori nahin samajhti.....
mujhe bhi apni mother tongue aati hai...lekin professional life ki probs solve karne ke liye uske use ki zarrorat nahin....mere dad ne to aaj tak apni native tongue mein baat nahin ki office mein....n roz unhe bhi kafi labour class se deal karna padta hai...he does it using the most polite words.......

humare perceptions nahin hein??
mujhe to abhi aise baniye nahin mile jo bahut kanjoos hoon...stil v call all baniyas miser...
v call all punjabis show offs...but personally i dunno ne who r show offs....my frend circle has the most humble n down to earth punjabis....
if v r carrying age old perceptions abt other castes then y r v cryin coz ppl hav age old perceptions abt us?
 
prashantacmet said:
is "they" sticks around like a "lattoo "always to enlighten "we" or "they" wants to embarrass "we" how rude "us" is in manners....kudos to "they"

Rock on all "they"...........
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anilsangwan said:
"They" are right Panney!! "Kudos" to "they"! And they has put very good "latttooo" in subject of your post!! kudos for that too :)

"We" is glad. :rock
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vijay said:
I second your pragmatic thoughts !
Salutations to you !
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WE(becoz Respect to myself) have no clue what you guys are talking about but who so ever "THEY" are I wud really be obliged to pay respect and honored to get some insight about......plz start another thread to give respect to "THEY"
and yeah plz "THEY" shud always remain cool and get some beer, no matter what "WE" have to say
 
keshavdahiya said:
WE(becoz Respect to myself) have no clue what you guys are talking about but who so ever "THEY" are I wud really be obliged to pay respect and honored to get some insight about......plz start another thread to give respect to "THEY"
and yeah plz "THEY" shud always remain cool and get some beer, no matter what "WE" have to say
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hahahahahhahaha daak saaab. 'they' will be mad like a cut snake after all this:tamatar
 
shweta123 said:
That is the crux !

But some people are so adamant that they dont understand this simple thing :cool:

These are the people coz of which this so called image persists.

Nowadays, the Jats who are educated and sensible have come of age. They are refined, talented, polite & at the same time they are obviously a jat when it comes to their wits, un-compromising nature and strength of character ! :)

And they never over do this language thing just to show & prove God knows what :D
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Well Shweta its easy to find flaws and bumps on the long road ahead of us....but the rock gets a rounded off gradually wearing off the chips when eventually it meets the sea along the river flow.
"WE" gotta move on despite what "THEY" have to say.

khudos to your thots and also salutations
 
keshavdahiya said:
WE(becoz Respect to myself) have no clue what you guys are talking about but who so ever "THEY" are I wud really be obliged to pay respect and honored to get some insight about......plz start another thread to give respect to "THEY"
and yeah plz "THEY" shud always remain cool and get some beer, no matter what "WE" have to say
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thank u dr. saab.....aapne mere thoughts prakat kar diye yahan.... :D

mein bhi kafi confused hoon yeh sab posts padhne ke baad:eek:
 
good,,,,actually "They"(for Bhawna ji out of respect) is also right and "They"(For Keshav Bhai) is also right,,,,,so its good to see that both the "Theys" are agreeing on a very difficult points.

bhavnasingh20 said:
thank u dr. saab.....aapne mere thoughts prakat kar diye yahan.... :D

mein bhi kafi confused hoon yeh sab posts padhne ke baad:eek:
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bhavnasingh20 said:
@ kapil...kabhi aapne delhi ke coll mein jaake dekha hai???
professional life bahut durr ki cheez hai....lekin yeh perceptions coll time se form ho jaate hein.....u know a decent girl cannot cross these guys in coll without inviting some comments frm them....
thr must b some reason y this general perception was formed abt jats....
i'll give u another eg...now this Mr. X is a Phd in chemistry....so then he must b brainy yeah?
jaake co. ke MD ko letter deke aaya ki mujhe VRS de do else i'll commit suicide....VRS scheme khatam ho chuki thi so he was kicked out of the co....n then he went crying bak ki mere chhote chhote bache hein.....
ab aap aise insaan ko kya kahenge?? bahut akal wala ya bewakoof???
n if u want more egs of these kinds then lemme know....
kafi real life egs hein mere pass padhe likhe jaaton ki jo ki aisi hi bewakoofi karte hein
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First of all, a clarification- I went through the article. It is not a masterpiece, but it is quite harmless and definitely doesn't target us specifically. There is specific context of stereotypes that the author is talking about. I am sure it would have been TOI's marketing gimmick to highlight provoking comments about communities. Anyways, nothing terribly wrong with that as well. I think the person starting this thread should have clarified the context.

Bhavnaji- aap galat sawaal poochh rahi hain. Khair jawaab yeh hai ki main dilli main padha hoon, par DU main nahin. Par DU waalon se bahut interaction raha hai. Aur chunki main saari umar dilli main raha hoon, mere bahut saare dost DU main padhe hain, meri donon bahanein DU main padhi hain aur ek abhi DU main lecturer hai, to main yeh zaroor keh sakta hoon ki mujhe pata hai ki dilli ke colleges main kya hota hai. But what's the point? The author of that article was actually discussing stereotypes and he atleast made an attempt to show that it was wrong. But you got attracted to the comments on Jats as seemingly you totally believe in those stereotypes. Aapke examples pe aate hue:
1. DU ke sab ladke jo ladkiyon ko chhedte hain woh Jat nahin hote. Bahut Jat honge, par non-Jat bhi honge. Basically, ladkiyon ko chhedne aur Jat hone main koi statistical correlation nahin hai (unless u did a reasearch and can show it to me). Shaayad aapko sab Jat lagte hon, kyunki Dilli main bahut log wannabe Jats hote hain. Bahut conductors chaahe woh koi bhi ho Jat bhasha ka prayog karta hi jisse ki woh macho lage. Usi tarah, college main bahut hawabaaz ladke akkhad bhasha ka prayog karte hain.

2. The second example was totally beyond me. The description of an idiot threatening to commit suicide to get VRS doesn't even fit Jat stereotype. Such a person would be either of a pussy/mentally unstable/emotional blackmailer. None of these fit the existing Jat stereotypes. Just because he happened to be a Jat, you applied that trait to all the Jats? Main aise hi kai examples bana sakta hoon. Virender Sehwag bahut accha batsman hai-aur woh Jat hai- hence, all Jats are good batsmen??? There is something called cause and effect. Agar aapka PhD mitra bewkoofi karr raha tha to uska koi cause hoga. And his being a Jat can't be the cause. It was COINCIDENTAL. I don't want any more examples that try to look at the person's caste to justify his actions. Can you please have a relook and appreciate the huge logical deficiency in that argument?
 
kapil.dalal said:
1. DU ke sab ladke jo ladkiyon ko chhedte hain woh Jat nahin hote. Bahut Jat honge, par non-Jat bhi honge. Basically, ladkiyon ko chhedne aur Jat hone main koi statistical correlation nahin hai (unless u did a reasearch and can show it to me). Shaayad aapko sab Jat lagte hon, kyunki Dilli main bahut log wannabe Jats hote hain. Bahut conductors chaahe woh koi bhi ho Jat bhasha ka prayog karta hi jisse ki woh macho lage. Usi tarah, college main bahut hawabaaz ladke akkhad bhasha ka prayog karte hain.

2. The second example was totally beyond me. The description of an idiot threatening to commit suicide to get VRS doesn't even fit Jat stereotype. Such a person would be either of a pussy/mentally unstable/emotional blackmailer. None of these fit the existing Jat stereotypes. Just because he happened to be a Jat, you applied that trait to all the Jats? Main aise hi kai examples bana sakta hoon. Virender Sehwag bahut accha batsman hai-aur woh Jat hai- hence, all Jats are good batsmen??? There is something called cause and effect. Agar aapka PhD mitra bewkoofi karr raha tha to uska koi cause hoga. And his being a Jat can't be the cause. It was COINCIDENTAL. I don't want any more examples that try to look at the person's caste to justify his actions. Can you please have a relook and appreciate the huge logical deficiency in that argument?
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absolutely right Kapilji......we cant blame the whole community because of some kind of bad people.......we will find every type of person in each community......similarly ....in jats
this is not mean...all jats are criminals, rude.....
 
I feel Jats specially here on JL live up to the stereotype image TOI guys depicted in that very article, particularly a taull here don't miss a chance to manifest the very stereotype!:rolleyes:

Hence its proved ! :)

Keep it up,


Rock on
Jit
 
cooljat said:
I feel Jats specially here on JL live up to the stereotype image TOI guys depicted in that very article, particularly a taull here don't miss a chance to manifest the very stereotype!:rolleyes:

Hence its proved ! :)

Keep it up,


Rock on
Jit
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Agreed Ab to 100% agree hoona padega Lagta hai koi personal Exp. mil gaaya :D
 
bhavnasingh20 said:
well itne saare n itne lambe lambe replies to maine nahin padhe....

but i wil try to ans specifically those ppl who commented on my post....

firstly nishant...m not sayin v need to change ourselves drastically...but v need to make few changes so tht ppl respect us much more...

@ kapil...kabhi aapne delhi ke coll mein jaake dekha hai???
professional life bahut durr ki cheez hai....lekin yeh perceptions coll time se form ho jaate hein.....u know a decent girl cannot cross these guys in coll without inviting some comments frm them....
thr must b some reason y this general perception was formed abt jats....
i'll give u another eg...now this Mr. X is a Phd in chemistry....so then he must b brainy yeah?
jaake co. ke MD ko letter deke aaya ki mujhe VRS de do else i'll commit suicide....VRS scheme khatam ho chuki thi so he was kicked out of the co....n then he went crying bak ki mere chhote chhote bache hein.....
ab aap aise insaan ko kya kahenge?? bahut akal wala ya bewakoof???
n if u want more egs of these kinds then lemme know....
kafi real life egs hein mere pass padhe likhe jaaton ki jo ki aisi hi bewakoofi karte hein

@ rakesh ji....koi nahin jaanta ki mein jat hoon...aur na hi hum yeh poochne mein vishwas rakhte hein ki kaun kis caste ka hai...jiska bhi hai theek hai.....
mujhse aaj tak kisi ne nahin poocha ki meri caste kya hai n mein batana bhi zarrori nahin samajhti.....
mujhe bhi apni mother tongue aati hai...lekin professional life ki probs solve karne ke liye uske use ki zarrorat nahin....mere dad ne to aaj tak apni native tongue mein baat nahin ki office mein....n roz unhe bhi kafi labour class se deal karna padta hai...he does it using the most polite words.......

humare perceptions nahin hein??
mujhe to abhi aise baniye nahin mile jo bahut kanjoos hoon...stil v call all baniyas miser...
v call all punjabis show offs...but personally i dunno ne who r show offs....my frend circle has the most humble n down to earth punjabis....
if v r carrying age old perceptions abt other castes then y r v cryin coz ppl hav age old perceptions abt us?
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Bhavna agree upto some extent but don't you think these type of publicity in newspaper hurt the image of all Jat's. Do you have all those disrepectfull qualities in u mentioned by the Author of article? I don't think u have! That's why these type of statement hurts.
 
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