Destroyed in Love 2!!

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prashantacmet said:
Let us change the name of this site as "Loveland"......................ROOOKKA@ LOVELAND......... aaye kahi tai chaal ke Laila-majnu............. pehlam ke main aapne latte paad lyo.....................fer laagoge laila -majnu.............hahahahahahhahahaha........

Bhai Prashant ji,

Agar kisi ko kuch bata nahi sakte... to mazak udane ka bhi koi adhikar nahi hai.. naa aapko na mujhe.. na kisi aur ko...... Jispe guzar rahi hai us se pooch ke dekho.....ki kaisa lagta hai.... zindagi ko bina kisi khushi ke jeena....
So I would strongly recommend you to either edit your post or to feel sorry for writing such derogatory remarks!!! I am moved!!!
 
Hemant sahab ji....... why don't u meet personally to the parents of Girl & boy......& try to convince them with ur precious suggestions......sure they will accept ur suggestions & will decide accordingly....... yes , it is avery serious discussion.....someone is revealing about his personal life...........He is not aware of the surroundings & is confused....... not able to take a decision .......looking for suggestions ..................great???????....................
choudharysaaab said:
Bhai Prashant ji,

Agar kisi ko kuch bata nahi sakte... to mazak udane ka bhi koi adhikar nahi hai.. naa aapko na mujhe.. na kisi aur ko...... Jispe guzar rahi hai us se pooch ke dekho.....ki kaisa lagta hai.... zindagi ko bina kisi khushi ke jeena....
So I would strongly recommend you to either edit your post or to feel sorry for writing such derogatory remarks!!! I am moved!!!
 
prashantacmet said:
Hemant sahab ji....... why don't u meet personally to the parents of Girl & boy......& try to convince them with ur precious suggestions......sure they will accept ur suggestions & will decide accordingly....... yes , it is avery serious discussion.....someone is revealing about his personal life...........He is not aware of the surroundings & is confused....... not able to take a decision .......looking for suggestions ..................great???????....................

Prashant bhai hai to tu Des ka ar baat kare bawli??
True.. this is a very serious discussion and one takes such steps to know the situations better and to act accordingly.... We are so close as brothers here, and brothers.... if they dont come for rescue of fellow men..... what else could be the use of their being or said brothers???

Hemant can, as well move in to talk with the parents of the biy and the girl, I too can, and so can you, but the motive of this discussion is to know the psyche better, and to act in a very stable manner, so as to help someone achieve their loves of life... And yes, I do believe in love... Love it was that made us and it was love that saved us, Love was God's plan, when he made man, God's devine nature is love........

Kal shaadi ke baad.. apni wife se bhi pyar karega banda aur bandi apne husband se..... kya voh pyar nahi?? hai to why put such a bad taste in the love which is eternal??? With the world defying the existence.,..... it goes on and on and on... and their are n number of such cases where in... a man or a lady just give in... and live life happily with the consent of their paresnts ever after... happily... I said sarcastically... As the happiness then limites to some.... simple smiles when the world smiles.. but not the eternal happiness....

We.. shall talk it in open.. so that others.. who are under the similar conditions... get something out of it.. and I DONT FEEL THIS IS WRONG!!!

bata.. chaalega ladki ke babbu ke dhore?? main bhi hun gail arr Hemant ne bhi le lenge... bata diye mann ho tera to!~!

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal
 
Hmmmmm ......Shobit Bhai.... as far as my view is concerned, if two are fallen in love , they know better about their relationship,their parents & the circumstances . They can decide better instead of us.....& no one should give suggestions for these critical & sensitive(love affairs) issues...... Do u think they need our suggestions & they will take teh action accordingly??..... The persons who are willing to go against their parents's desire. They will not accept our views.. I am not saying that they are wrong but it will be better if they decide about their life instead of observing other persons's suggestions..... But if u are interested to get know the psyche of the ppls about this issue.....then it's really a nice thread.........................
Arrr rahi baat Babbu dhorre jaan ki..... issi panchayat main panchoien ke bhi joot laagya kare..... aayi simajh main........ke kahenge jaa ke chorri ke babbu tai .....ek tu aapni chorrri ka byaah iske ashiq gailla kar dey ..... yeh donoo ghani mohabbat kare aapas main............arr fer we jo haamne moondh ke peetan laagye to koi chutaan bhi na aawe....padde padde chaskenge wahi... hemant bhai ne le jaaye tu...... mera byoont kona pittan ka.................
shobhitdeshwal said:
Prashant bhai hai to tu Des ka ar baat kare bawli??
True.. this is a very serious discussion and one takes such steps to know the situations better and to act accordingly.... We are so close as brothers here, and brothers.... if they dont come for rescue of fellow men..... what else could be the use of their being or said brothers???

Hemant can, as well move in to talk with the parents of the biy and the girl, I too can, and so can you, but the motive of this discussion is to know the psyche better, and to act in a very stable manner, so as to help someone achieve their loves of life... And yes, I do believe in love... Love it was that made us and it was love that saved us, Love was God's plan, when he made man, God's devine nature is love........

Kal shaadi ke baad.. apni wife se bhi pyar karega banda aur bandi apne husband se..... kya voh pyar nahi?? hai to why put such a bad taste in the love which is eternal??? With the world defying the existence.,..... it goes on and on and on... and their are n number of such cases where in... a man or a lady just give in... and live life happily with the consent of their paresnts ever after... happily... I said sarcastically... As the happiness then limites to some.... simple smiles when the world smiles.. but not the eternal happiness....

We.. shall talk it in open.. so that others.. who are under the similar conditions... get something out of it.. and I DONT FEEL THIS IS WRONG!!!

bata.. chaalega ladki ke babbu ke dhore?? main bhi hun gail arr Hemant ne bhi le lenge... bata diye mann ho tera to!~!

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal
 
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agred ponam!

word 2 word.
poonam said:

“Just a Marriage or no Marriage” should not then shake someone’s love for his/her beloved either.


FACT: People do change with time.

So, there is no assurance for a ‘happy’ life with that chosen one.

On a lighter note: In fact, its better not to marry the one you love! Don’t ask me why..LOL..:D

I wish I could convince the two souls to take it easy, there is much more in Life beyond that. Sorry guys I'm kind of firm non-believer in the so called "Love"...;) :D

PS. Must confess, did not read the entire thread but got an idea looking at the posts…:)
 
hmmmmm......i totally agree here with Vikas Rathee's points.....all sounds very sensible but only few jat parents can understand all this......lakin kucch kiya bhi nahin jaa sakta.....so those who can't get their love are left with tears only and parents don't bother about that also.....they only say, ki sab rahna seekh jaayegne.....who tries to look inside??....nobody.....but in actual that was their only luck which was written when they were born.....and this is called the bad luck....may noone else suffer like this....i wish everyone should get their share of true happiness
 
Shobhit bhai & Vikas bhai, -

I felt gud to see that aap dono ke mann mein auraton ke liye kaafi izat hai, thats admirable! Lekin samaj abhi bhi male-dominated hi hai isliye partility aur discrimnation to abhi bhi jaari hai jaisa ki aapne likha hai, that is very much true.

Nikitaji, -

ur right that Parents always come first aur yeh hamara farz banta hai ki hum unki seva kare aur une khush rakhe lekin do u agree that girls always care their parents more then their brothers but still they often favor their sons, why?

Waise yahan par muje lagta hai ki us ladki ki family wale kaafi orthodox aur conservative khayalat ke hein aur so called samaj mein izzat ke liye they're simply spoilin her life, why cant be this marrage, luv become arrange. Aur ek baat ye samaj hai na woh hamesa critcize hi karta hai, yeh samaj ke thekedar hamesa doosron mein galtiyan dhoondte hein khud ki girebaan mein kabi nahi jhaankte. U cant just sacrifice ur family's happiness for so called society.

Anyways, muje ish problem ka ek hi solution nazar aata hai ki that girl must stand for her rights aur rather she should take bold decision & should marry to that guy.

I wish them all the best!

Bhai Shobhit agar unka byah ho jaaye to hame jaroor bata dena, best wishes dene aa jaayenge :) :)

thanks!

Regards,
Kiran.



nikitadhaiya said:
Well i strongly feel tht once a person is born in a family he/she has a duty to follow the norms of the family and one must not be selfish. Its not the Q of 'my life', its abt everybodys life. In India there is nothing as such 'my life' , its associated with many lives. So just for the sake of one life many cannot be left ignored. and wat ur calling ' samaj ki izzat' or 'nak ka sawal' is not a SMALL THING , its earned through generations. When we r born in a family we r given the family name, identity, so many relationships, place in society so we OWE a lot to the family and some sacrifices for all this makes no big deal. if one cannot upgrade the name of the family one has no right to degrade it as well. one should never do anysuch thing tht makes ur parents or ur family embarressed in there own society coz tht RESPECT in society is all tht they have earned in there entire life. I may be sounding somebody frm 1950's but just once try to think frm parents point of view and u will feel the difference.
 
getting more interesting.l.....

Okay.. This is becoming more interesting, any script writer, please..... ha ha...

people take no responsibilty of the world they made on their own!!!!!! And... things are left for the time to heal..... I see this friend of mine.... a jolly and smiling ever.... person..... who was a mentor for many around him, who has the confidence to shake the Prime minister of the country with his logic and his words.... Today take respite in a bottle of whisky....... As.... his life... which was leaded by an ILLUSION..... has left nothing to feel happy about!!!!!
The illusion made him leave a lot... and at last.. the girl.. herself says... that she is not interested!!! ha ha ha ha... Ever seen such a movie??? I wonder if someone of us tomorrow want to produce one, the script would be ready instantly!!!!!

Even I, being a very optimist person now feel that the boy.... is lost... and whatever be done... could not get him back to what he was years before... A courtship, a word of mouth, a commitment.... failed him... failed his life.....

But.. I feel strongly for him..... that.... we can talk it over and can make things work again... as they seem to work at certain point in time.... At our end... as brothers.. what can we do for the two of them?? Where the girl is falling short of strength... and the boy is falling short of life????

I wish we could collect and produce ourselves as testimony to the families... and make two lives blossom with full bloom......

Any Bhai, bebe with me???

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal
 
shobhitdeshwal said:
Okay.. This is becoming more interesting, any script writer, please..... ha ha...

people take no responsibilty of the world they made on their own!!!!!! And... things are left for the time to heal..... I see this friend of mine.... a jolly and smiling ever.... person..... who was a mentor for many around him, who has the confidence to shake the Prime minister of the country with his logic and his words.... Today take respite in a bottle of whisky....... As.... his life... which was leaded by an ILLUSION..... has left nothing to feel happy about!!!!!
The illusion made him leave a lot... and at last.. the girl.. herself says... that she is not interested!!! ha ha ha ha... Ever seen such a movie??? I wonder if someone of us tomorrow want to produce one, the script would be ready instantly!!!!!

Even I, being a very optimist person now feel that the boy.... is lost... and whatever be done... could not get him back to what he was years before... A courtship, a word of mouth, a commitment.... failed him... failed his life.....

But.. I feel strongly for him..... that.... we can talk it over and can make things work again... as they seem to work at certain point in time.... At our end... as brothers.. what can we do for the two of them?? Where the girl is falling short of strength... and the boy is falling short of life????

I wish we could collect and produce ourselves as testimony to the families... and make two lives blossom with full bloom......

Any Bhai, bebe with me???

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal

Bhai Shobhit,

Tera dost kuch jiada hi kamjar najar aata hai. bhala yeh kiya ki larkee ne ek baar mana kiya aur tera dost devdas ban gaya...ask him to be brave... piar karna kamjor logon ke baski baat nahi...larkiyon ki naa aur haan to pata nahi kitne baar chalenge ess kahani me... Let this love become the driving force of his life and not the destroying force.....

RK^2
 
Rajendra ji,

Strength bahut hai... shayad isme.... par.... jab koi bahut andar basa hua manushya... Maa, Baap, Bhai, behen, Muhabbat... yeh keh de.. ki Main kahin aur ja raha hun/rahi hun..... And main BURAI nahi karna chahta/chahti tumhari.... kuch pata chal gaya mujhe... tab jo dukh hota hai.. voh tod deta hai andar tak.... Aur... phir.. shayad kisi aadmi ke vash me kuch nahi hota!!!!! Bas yeh ki aisa kaise hua??? kyun hua?? And in this speculative mode... a person sinks in deep!!!!

He is trying his level best to come up.. and to get his lady love in his life.. I say him daily... GO GET HER... She is your Girl... and she shall not leave.... but!! The hardships are many!!!!!

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal
 
Shobit bhai.........Don't worry..... memories will be faided after some days.............Hopefully he will be living his life with full enthusiasm after some time...........SAMAY SAARRE GHAAV BHAR DETTA HAI..................................................
shobhitdeshwal said:
Rajendra ji,

Strength bahut hai... shayad isme.... par.... jab koi bahut andar basa hua manushya... Maa, Baap, Bhai, behen, Muhabbat... yeh keh de.. ki Main kahin aur ja raha hun/rahi hun..... And main BURAI nahi karna chahta/chahti tumhari.... kuch pata chal gaya mujhe... tab jo dukh hota hai.. voh tod deta hai andar tak.... Aur... phir.. shayad kisi aadmi ke vash me kuch nahi hota!!!!! Bas yeh ki aisa kaise hua??? kyun hua?? And in this speculative mode... a person sinks in deep!!!!

He is trying his level best to come up.. and to get his lady love in his life.. I say him daily... GO GET HER... She is your Girl... and she shall not leave.... but!! The hardships are many!!!!!

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal
 
We all are expecting something from our loved one's then only these type of veiw's occured. Give your dear one what ever reasonable to give and dont expect anything from him/her. Then only you find the meaning of love. I am sorry, if you feel I am wrong.
Karmveer
 
shobhitdeshwal said:
Rajendra ji,

Strength bahut hai... shayad isme.... par.... jab koi bahut andar basa hua manushya... Maa, Baap, Bhai, behen, Muhabbat... yeh keh de.. ki Main kahin aur ja raha hun/rahi hun..... And main BURAI nahi karna chahta/chahti tumhari.... kuch pata chal gaya mujhe... tab jo dukh hota hai.. voh tod deta hai andar tak.... Aur... phir.. shayad kisi aadmi ke vash me kuch nahi hota!!!!! Bas yeh ki aisa kaise hua??? kyun hua?? And in this speculative mode... a person sinks in deep!!!!

He is trying his level best to come up.. and to get his lady love in his life.. I say him daily... GO GET HER... She is your Girl... and she shall not leave.... but!! The hardships are many!!!!!

Cheers!!

Shobhit Deshwal

Let us not forget that in life all encounters are a matter of pure chance and nothing more should be attached to them. Had your friend not met her, life would still have been going. Life has to go on, come what may and this should be the motto. This is what a brave person would be doing and not sinking deep into grief of loosing someone who has to act according to circumstances.

RK^2
 
hmmmm......

HAM JAT LOG ITNE JIDDI KYON HOTE HE...KIS BAAT KA AUR KAISA "EGO" HAM LOG RAKHA KARTE HE...??? at the end of the day "kisko khushi mili"... :mad:
 
shobhit kahi vo ladka tu hi to nahi.....aur ladki shayad priya.....is kahani ke facts teri love story se kaafi match karte hai:)......
 
@shobhit

bahut logo ko bewakoof bana liya.....kaafi sympathy gain kar li....ab kisi aur ko pakadne ki bajay thoda kaam dhaam kar le....
 
oooo vARUNeee naas ki jadd............. kulang ne saarri poll padd di..tajhe kissne kaha tha issi baat disclose karan ku................ tu bhi nerrak-neeri
baawli poonch hi reh gya........ "kar di ne unki mohabbat ruswaaa.......... aabb tynjhe 2 premeyon ki badduyian kabhi chain se jeene nahi dengi"................................. tajhe aapne burre karamoien ka phal to bhohgna hi padegga........ par tu nu bata bhai konsee gaam ka hai tu....................................
varuntomar said:
bahut logo ko bewakoof bana liya.....kaafi sympathy gain kar li....ab kisi aur ko pakadne ki bajay thoda kaam dhaam kar le....
 
monikadahiya said:
How can anyone forget their love for parents?? That is the biggest love ever. how can someone forget their love for parents and for that matter parents love for them if he/ she falls for someone. One must never get married against parents consent. I dont think any parent can ever think bad for their kid. If parents are against the marriage, i feel there must be something more than just the so called "samaaj".

Age plays a major role too. That puppy love or love at first sight is never love. Is it love or infatuation??
It's no hidden fact that many so called lovers are not actually in love but are just infatuated and cant diifferentiate between love and infatuation. And infatuation only causes havoc in many lives...i feel logon ka deemag kaam karna band kar deta hai in infatuation. On the other hand, love helps people think rationally about one's present and future.

Bohot dekhe hain jo parents ke against jaakar shaadi karte and and later in their lives they do nothing but sulk. Parents ka 45-50 saal ka experience faaltu ka nahi hota. they can make out if their kid is talking sense or not.

If the guy and girl think they are made for each other, they should wait and not give in. This is the testing time and will prove to the parents that they are actually serious about the relationship. This will also give the couple time to think about their future and decide if they are going in the right direction and if it's worth at all. ladki ko ghar par batana chahiye ki ladka jat hai ( if they are concerned about caste). she should tell them that he;s educated from a reputed institute and is in a stable job and is earning enough ( har parents ka wish yahi hota hai ki educated ladka ho aur accha job karta ho) and she can talk about the guy's family too ( for eg. agar ladke ke ghar mein aur educated log hain toh unko highlight kare aur bataaye). Finally, she should stress that ki woh us ladke ke saath khush rahegi. parents just need the surety that their kid has made the right choice aur woh khush rahegi / rahega after marriage ( believe it or not, they actually look at all the aspects from all the angles before saying yes).

And parents just need some time to digest the fact that their kid has grown up and that kid can make the right choice. Afterall parents hain woh, dushman naheen hain. hamesha accha hee chahenge woh. They just need time.


there are lines in movie matrix revolution where Neo is told that love is just another word what is important is the connection it implies, neo is further asked as to( as he seems to be in love) what he can give to hold on to that connection-----------NEO says----------------ANYTHING!!

what is love-its state of being when u lower all ur guards of ego and self interests, so many times one says so much to his mother but even then she comes to u back, to please u, though she could have taken ego in between---thts love! Boy does all sort of bad things, is in bad company but even then at the end of day Father will come for his son--thts love!
There is this girl--whom u protect as most dear of ur child, whom u look upon when u seem to lose all hope, whom u expect to play role of mother at ur time of distress-not even tinch of ego in between-no ones ever came close enough to feel that breath of yours, time comes to stand still!! EVEN THIS IS LOVE! In all meditative course u are told tht mind can be controlled only through breath and u can go in tht meditative state through breath manipulations---when u are so close to one u love--u hear and feel every bit of air going in and out, like u never do in life unless u go for some meditation!
LOWER ur false walls of ego and self and u will go beyond infatuation--- rteal problem is that when men lowers his ego, he unwillingly came to knows pleasure of being so pure and unable to control energy that comes with it and thus when that girl leaves him for pleasing egos of his family and parents---u cry for those moments of selfless being--- another problem is that u start loving girl as a child and u dont want to expect anything frm CHILD and takes suffering for urself while girl moves on with her life without even giving thought about u.
I read somewhere tht god shld be worshipped as CHILD then u wont expect anything frm him!
u look for sympathies from people who are yet to lower their walls of ego and selfishness--and then becomes ball in between their opinions!
then u have that hope of some miracle tht could turn the things back to gud old days-----but hope is a dangerous thing, it can drive a man insane!!
U look for tht saviour who could take u out of this mess---but where is LORD KRISHNA!!
Shobhit Deshwal????
 
rohitkaliyer said:
there are lines in movie matrix revolution where Neo is told that love is just another word what is important is the connection it implies, neo is further asked as to( as he seems to be in love) what he can give to hold on to that connection-----------NEO says----------------ANYTHING!!

what is love-its state of being when u lower all ur guards of ego and self interests, so many times one says so much to his mother but even then she comes to u back, to please u, though she could have taken ego in between---thts love! Boy does all sort of bad things, is in bad company but even then at the end of day Father will come for his son--thts love!
There is this girl--whom u protect as most dear of ur child, whom u look upon when u seem to lose all hope, whom u expect to play role of mother at ur time of distress-not even tinch of ego in between-no ones ever came close enough to feel that breath of yours, time comes to stand still!! EVEN THIS IS LOVE! In all meditative course u are told tht mind can be controlled only through breath and u can go in tht meditative state through breath manipulations---when u are so close to one u love--u hear and feel every bit of air going in and out, like u never do in life unless u go for some meditation!
LOWER ur false walls of ego and self and u will go beyond infatuation--- rteal problem is that when men lowers his ego, he unwillingly came to knows pleasure of being so pure and unable to control energy that comes with it and thus when that girl leaves him for pleasing egos of his family and parents---u cry for those moments of selfless being--- another problem is that u start loving girl as a child and u dont want to expect anything frm CHILD and takes suffering for urself while girl moves on with her life without even giving thought about u.
I read somewhere tht god shld be worshipped as CHILD then u wont expect anything frm him!
u look for sympathies from people who are yet to lower their walls of ego and selfishness--and then becomes ball in between their opinions!
then u have that hope of some miracle tht could turn the things back to gud old days-----but hope is a dangerous thing, it can drive a man insane!!
U look for tht saviour who could take u out of this mess---but where is LORD KRISHNA!!
Shobhit Deshwal????

No human emotion can be understood in isolation. Love, ego, desire, pride, lust etc they all exist in every human being and very much part of our normal biology. Each of these emotion is very important for our normal being. Its very hard to say which one is less important and which one is more. No doubt they compete with each other at times and one has to understand interplay. It requires great skills to keep them all tuned in right amount and its almost like dealing with a differential equaition to find the optimum answer. Extreme variations of any of these variables can menifest itself into something very unique,which can be called abnormal or exceptional depending upon how one wants to look at..

RK^2
 
@prashant

kishanpur baral ka hu bhai...tu kaun se gaam ka hai?

yaar manne to poori koshish ki dono premiyo ko milwaane ki....kayi beri samjhaya kungar ku ak jaa ke kar le court mai bhyaa jo ladki tayyar ho to...par na usme dum nikla na us ladki mai....byaahh hue pichchee thode din chuuu chapat karke sab chup baith jaange.....end mai sab maa baap accept kar liya kare baalko ke decision....arrr jyada dikkat hui to bhai is system ne policewaalo ko agar power di hai to limit bhi ki hai dekh lete unhe bhi....

@ the moral police

i expect that there would be many who would jump at me trying to take my case for showing this brazen disregard for customs, parental bonds, society, etc. etc.... with all due respect to them everybody is entitled to lead his/her life the way he/she wants.....

ibbbe isme meri koi galti na hai...desh waale hoya hi kare aise....jo karna hai so karna hai.....
 
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