For Pseudo-Secular Hindus and Modi baiters

I think we are not just talking about terrorism, we are talking of TERRORISM IN THE NAME OF RELIGION

And Maoism started off against state apathy and misgovernance, but on the way the maoists lost track and started targetting the innocent, BUT mind you again, not on the basis of religion.

swaich said:
They have bombed public buses where military personnel were travelling and intimidate villagers who act as police informants. Plus are we saying, some form of violence can be condoned and not termed as terrorism?
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I would disagree to agree on the point that only politicians are the masterminds of violence. In case a community does not want, you can't force it to do violence. You can take a horse to water, but can't make it drink. A particular community even in today's modern times believes in Holy War.

Yes, India is a tolerant country. But my question is - Is it the responsibility of only the so-called majority to be tolerant towards the acts of aggression and violence of the so-called minority? The minority community can do whatever they please and as they please including killing of innocent members of the majority??

The reason I called Sikhism a religion of peace (and also sacrifice) is that it came into being to protect the majority community from the excesses of the Mughal rulers, warlords and general muslim populace. It would be inappropriate if we forget the sacrifice of Sikh gurus and their children in standing up to the tyrannical rule of the mughal sultanate.

My question on the wide-scale flaw (on a global scale) in the interpretation of the Holy Quran still remains unanswered.



swaich said:
I agree with this definition, but I think we need to broaden it to include those who instigate or plan the violence instead of only those who indulge in it. Politicians who sit and plan shouldn't be let off just because they don't actually indulge in it.



I agree, India is a reasonably tolerant place and that is why we have been able to absorb people from different faiths and beliefs over the course of thousands of years. However, our tolerance levels do take a major dip every now and then and we have a lot of room for improvement for being tolerant of others opinions, faith and actions.



You make a fair point that terrorism however small it may be, cannot survive without the active/passive support of local community. So for this reason alone you assume most Muslims to be terrorists.

Here's my question to you. Barely 20 years ago, Sikh militancy was thriving in Punjab and went on for a decade. But you called Sikhism a religion of peace a few posts back. Do you to think Sikh militancy had support of most of the community and does this mean we should call Sikhism as a terrorist religion too?

I think just like we can't accurately count the no of terrorists in a religion, we can't count those who support it. Unless we decide to call all those who are silent as terrorists or collaborators as well.
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People like Mr Digvijay Singh think that 26/11 was a RSS conspiracy. watch him during a book launch at the subject;
 
हिंदुत्व को बचाने के लिए हिन्दुओं को ही अपनी सुरक्षा अपने हाथ में लेकर चलनी पड़ेगी। तभी हिन्दू बच सकते हैं अन्यथा विनाश हर तरफ से घेरते हुए आगे बढ़ रहा है अब भी हिन्दू नहीं जागे तो सदैव के लिए सो जायेंगे।
 
Our community is at crossroads! I am at loss at what to write to support and sympathyse with those who suffered and helpless when everyone including the government, the protector is against them. I see only hope in invoking the prayer and spirit what Guru Gobind Singh taught and lived for, " Shiva Var Mohe Ahe, Shubh Karman Tey Kabhoo Na Taron"
Na Daroon Aur Sauh Jab Jaaye Laroon, Nishchay Kar Apni Jeet Karoon
Aur Sikh Hon Apne Hi Mann Ko, Eh Lalach Hau Gunn Tau Ucharoo
Jab Aav Ki Aundh Nidhan Bane, Att Hi Rann Mein Tab Joojh Maroon

देह शिवा बर मोहे ईहे, शुभ कर्मन ते कभुं न टरूं
न डरौं अरि सौं जब जाय लड़ौं, निश्चय कर अपनी जीत करौं,
अरु सिख हों आपने ही मन कौ इह लालच हउ गुन तउ उचरों,
जब आव की अउध निदान बनै अति ही रन मै तब जूझ मरों

Translation:
O Lord grant me the boon, that I may never deviate from doing a good deed.
That I shall not fear when I go into combat. And with determination I will be victorious.
That I may teach myself this greed alone, to learn only Thy praises.
And when the last days of my life come, I may die in the might of the battlefield.

-- Guru Gobind Singh Jee
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCrHUGGoPAI


So, my humble request to our people living in effected areas to inculcate the spirit in their kids and themselves what the Guru has taught and lived his life in the that manner! There are tears in my eyes when I am writing these lines and thinking of two brave lads who sacrificed their lives for the honor and dignity of their beloved sister! For me their sacrifice was worth for a cause!" Jindgi ka kya bharosa, road par chalte 2 , Raam raam sat" !

May the souls of Gaurav and sachin Rest in peace!
 
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I took at a look at last years: http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/RTGS/PDFs/RTGSFOR2012.pdf

Here is how I look at it, Holi is never a holiday for them seeing last years list and this year Dusshera and Diwali are falling on Sunday thus no mention in the list.

I hope that ends the political/religious implications implied.

rkumar said:
Watch the following link for annual holidays list at RBI website;

http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/RTGS/PDFs/RTGS20122013.pdf

As if Hindus don't exist in India

RK^2
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desijat said:
I took at a look at last years: http://rbidocs.rbi.org.in/rdocs/RTGS/PDFs/RTGSFOR2012.pdf

Here is how I look at it, Holi is never a holiday for them seeing last years list and this year Dusshera and Diwali are falling on Sunday thus no mention in the list.

I hope that ends the political/religious implications implied.
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Any special reason of Holi not being a holiday after including three Islamic holidays and two Christian? Does RBI expect many employees coming to work on the day of Holi if its not on Sunday?
 
rkumar said:
Any special reason of Holi not being a holiday after including three Islamic holidays and two Christian? Does RBI expect many employees coming to work on the day of Holi if its not on Sunday?
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Not sure, every corporate has different rules and regulations and if no one has raised any objection, i.e. employees I am sure there is something we dont know that is offered
 
desijat said:
Not sure, every corporate has different rules and regulations and if no one has raised any objection, i.e. employees I am sure there is something we dont know that is offered
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It is RBI totally governed by Union govt. of India not a company of any corporate house which can make their own holiday calender. The reality is that in terms of no of people Holi is celebrated more than any of the Islamic or Christian festival in India. The most shocking holiday is Muharram which is celebrated only by shitte muslims (20% of entire muslim population in India) .
 
http://india.gov.in/sites/upload_files/npi/files/govt_holiday_list_14.pdf

corporate, or entity they do have a right to decide

RathiJi said:
It is RBI totally governed by Union govt. of India not a company of any corporate house which can make their own holiday calender. The reality is that in terms of no of people Holi is celebrated more than any of the Islamic or Christian festival in India. The most shocking holiday is Muharram which is celebrated only by shitte muslims (20% of entire muslim population in India) .
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desijat said:
http://india.gov.in/sites/upload_files/npi/files/govt_holiday_list_14.pdf

corporate, or entity they do have a right to decide
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1. REPUBLIC DAY
2. INDEPENDENCE DAY
3. MAHATMA GANDHI'S BIRTHDAY
4. BUDDHA PURNIMA
5. CHRISTMAS DAY
6. DUSSEHRA (VIJAY DASHMI)
7. DIWALI (DEEPAVALI)
8. GOOD FRIDAY
9. GURU NANAK'S BIRTHDAY
10. IDU'L FITR
11. IDU'L ZUHA
12. MAHAVIR JAYANTI
13. MUHARRAM
14. PROPHET MOHAMMAD'S BIRTHDAY (ID-E-MILAD)

Compulsary Holiday for Central Govt. offices. 4 Islamic Holidays & Two Hindu holidays.

1. AN ADDITIONAL DAY FOR DUSSEHRA
2. HOLI
3. JANAMASHTAMI (VAISHNAVI)
4. RAM NAVAMI
5. MAHA SHIVRATRI
6. GANESH CHATURTHI / VINAYAK CHATURTHI
7. MAKAR SANKARANTI
8. RATH YATRA
9. ONAM
10. PONGAL
11. SRI PANCHAMI / BASANT PANCHAMI
12. VISHU/ VAISAKHI / VAISAKHADI / BAHAG BIHU / MASHADI UGADI /
CHAITRA SUKLADI / CHETI CHAND / GUDI PADAVA 1sT NAVRATRA /
NAUROZ/CHHATH POOJA/KARVA CHAUTH

Optional Holidays. All biggest Hindu festival are listed here. This clearly signifies the value of Hindu & Muslims in eyes of Central govt. Now leave the corporate and tell me I am giving reference from your list only. Why govt. treats 4 Islamic Holidays compulsory and Hindu holidays as optional. you always like to give links , please provide me link of any country in world where national holidays are more for minority faith and less for majority faith.
 
rkumar said:
People like Mr Digvijay Singh think that 26/11 was a RSS conspiracy. watch him during a book launch at the subject;
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What is more worse is there are some people who find substance in his talks, not to name anyone but take the name that first comes to your mind.
 
mene pichale 20 saal se Bharat Sarkaar kee isee tarah ke holidays dekhe hai...yah kaangres ke den hai.... gaalee denaa banatee hai ....... par dosto 6 saal ke BJP shasan me bhee yahee sab chalata rahaa... Ab jo isame kamee nikaal rahe hai, unako BJP se comitment lena chahiye ki agar vah sarkaar me aaye to minorities kee sbhee chuttiya khatm kar degee nahee to jatland par fir seeng fasaayee hogee....
 
Oh no, how can BJP be wrong of anything?

rskankara said:
mene pichale 20 saal se Bharat Sarkaar kee isee tarah ke holidays dekhe hai...yah kaangres ke den hai.... gaalee denaa banatee hai ....... par dosto 6 saal ke BJP shasan me bhee yahee sab chalata rahaa... Ab jo isame kamee nikaal rahe hai, unako BJP se comitment lena chahiye ki agar vah sarkaar me aaye to minorities kee sbhee chuttiya khatm kar degee nahee to jatland par fir seeng fasaayee hogee....
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rskankara said:
mene pichale 20 saal se Bharat Sarkaar kee isee tarah ke holidays dekhe hai...yah kaangres ke den hai.... gaalee denaa banatee hai ....... par dosto 6 saal ke BJP shasan me bhee yahee sab chalata rahaa... Ab jo isame kamee nikaal rahe hai, unako BJP se comitment lena chahiye ki agar vah sarkaar me aaye to minorities kee sbhee chuttiya khatm kar degee nahee to jatland par fir seeng fasaayee hogee....
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Vo 20 saal ki list hame bhi dikha dijiye. hum bhi thodi gaali BJP ko de lenge. I assure you that Milad-ul-Nabi , birthday of Arab warlord Mohammad was newly introduced.
 
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