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Now my openion,

The professor is ruining the image and respect of the profession and shame on him that he still thinks that he is right. What moral he will teach to his students i still wonder that ?

Totally shameful !
 
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Now my openion,

The professor is ruining the image and respect of the profession and shame on him that he still thinks that he is right. What moral he will teach to his students i still wonder that ?

Totally shameful !

Lets castrate the immoral prick!!! Off with his head! Latka do usse
beech chorhaye pay. How dare he !

And while at it, lets hang the 21 year old whore as well. Send her to a
brothel. And lets go there to punish her ! And then off with her head too!
...neah..lets just keep her around and punish her more frequently... :p

Jesus Christ!!! Have some respect for the free human spirit!!


;) :eek:


Anyways, some quotes on Morality for your reading pleasure:


Morality is always the product of terror; its chains and strait-waistcoats are fashioned by those who dare not trust others, because they dare not trust themselves, to walk in liberty.

Morality is a burglar’s tool whose merit lies in never being left behind at the scene of the crime.

Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike.

Morality, a muzzle for the will; logic, a climbing iron for the mind.

Morality is the custom of one’s country and the current feeling of one’s peers. Cannibalism is moral in a cannibal country.

All morality depends upon our sentiments; and when any action or quality of the mind pleases us after a certain manner we say it is virtuous; and when the neglect or nonperformance of it displeases us after a like manner, we say that we lie under an obligation to perform it.

Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely conceives it, wants it, and loves it.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

Subordination to morality can be slavish or vain or self- interested or resigned or gloomily enthusiastic or thoughtless or an act of despair, just as subordination to a prince can be: in itself it is nothing moral.

A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.

Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last. To pluck the mask from the face of the Pharisee is not to lift an impious hand to the Crown of Thorns.
 
Lets castrate the immoral prick!!! Off with his head! Latka do usse
beech chorhaye pay. How dare he !

And while at it, lets hang the 21 year old whore as well. Send her to a
brothel. And lets go there to punish her ! And then off with her head too!
...neah..lets just keep her around and punish her more frequently... :p

Jesus Christ!!! Have some respect for the free human spirit!!


;) :eek:


Anyways, some quotes on Morality for your reading pleasure:


Morality is always the product of terror; its chains and strait-waistcoats are fashioned by those who dare not trust others, because they dare not trust themselves, to walk in liberty.

Morality is a burglar’s tool whose merit lies in never being left behind at the scene of the crime.

Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike.

Morality, a muzzle for the will; logic, a climbing iron for the mind.

Morality is the custom of one’s country and the current feeling of one’s peers. Cannibalism is moral in a cannibal country.

All morality depends upon our sentiments; and when any action or quality of the mind pleases us after a certain manner we say it is virtuous; and when the neglect or nonperformance of it displeases us after a like manner, we say that we lie under an obligation to perform it.

Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely conceives it, wants it, and loves it.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

Subordination to morality can be slavish or vain or self- interested or resigned or gloomily enthusiastic or thoughtless or an act of despair, just as subordination to a prince can be: in itself it is nothing moral.

A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.

Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last. To pluck the mask from the face of the Pharisee is not to lift an impious hand to the Crown of Thorns.


Well quotes are fine and i admire your hard work for searching these quotes. But i think we are discussing a real situation here but not an imaginary situation so we should be practical but not go through these moral quotations.

Are you ready to marry ur close relative who is 25 years old with an about 60 years old prof. if yes ur GREAT and show that attitude here.
So, in ideal situation, you are ready to marry ur 25 years daughter or close relative with a 60 years old professor and telling here that you are proud of that about your family and that relatives.

GREAT !
 
Well quotes are fine and i admire your hard work for searching these quotes. But i think we are discussing a real situation here but not an imaginary situation so we should be practical but not go through these moral quotations.

Are you ready to marry ur close relative who is 25 years old with an about 60 years old prof. if yes ur GREAT and show that attitude here.
So, in ideal situation, you are ready to marry ur 25 years daughter or close relative with a 60 years old professor and telling here that you are proud of that about your family and that relatives.

GREAT !

What an illogical argument !!!

The point here is that the 21 year old girl wants that. Not whether
her relatives want it. Unka ji karta hoga tae woh bhi
kar lo. Na karta ho tae na karo. Baat na acchi laagti ho
tae apni beti nae samja lo. And I bet they've done all that.

Its not a question of what I would want for my relative. You missing the
point or what ?????

All that is besides the point. She wants it. And, for all practical purposes
(and legal age issues and such) is free to do so. That's the point!!!!

The guy at this stage can't. He needs to get a divorce based on law (right
or wrong). ANd sleeping around with another woman is already a good basis
for divorce. (Note that adultary is not somethng you can be thrown
in jail for, as far as I know).

But that is really a formality...isn't it...now that they have already gone
down that path.

Got it ??? It is a question of the choices adults make. Not what
others around them want. Its not a question of whether I or you think
it is a good idea for these folks.
 
What an illogical argument !!!

The point here is that the 21 year old girl wants that. Not whether
her relatives want it. Unka ji karta hoga tae woh bhi
kar lo. Na karta ho tae na karo. Baat na acchi laagti ho
tae apni beti nae samja lo. And I bet they've done all that.

Its not a question of what I would want for my relative. You missing the
point or what ?????

All that is besides the point. She wants it. And, for all practical purposes
(and legal age issues and such) is free to do so. That's the point!!!!

The guy at this stage can't. He needs to get a divorce based on law (right
or wrong). ANd sleeping around with another woman is already a good basis
for divorce. (Note that adultary is not somethng you can be thrown
in jail for, as far as I know).

But that is really a formality...isn't it...now that they have already gone
down that path.

Got it ??? It is a question of the choices adults make. Not what
others around them want. Its not a question of whether I or you think
it is a good idea for these folks.

I think the question was about the morality of the relationship in present situation.

And who told u personally that 21 years old girl wants that but not that 60 years old professor.

I am not missing the point but ur are not answering that honestly.

Answer now and i am asking in simple words. Ok

Will you let your 21 years daughter to marry her 60 years professor and you will feel proud of your daughter.

Yes or no ?
 
I think the question was about the morality of the relationship in present situation.

And who told u personally that 21 years old girl wants that but not that 60 years old professor.

I am not missing the point but ur are not answering that honestly.

Answer now and i am asking in simple words. Ok

Will you let your 21 years daughter to marry her 60 years professor and you will feel proud of your daughter.

Yes or no ?

You clearly are not getting it dude!
Lets just put it this way, given some ardoo like you on one hand and a
50year old prof on the other hand, I could very well understand
why any girl would go with the prof! ;) :eek:

But awwwwright...let me be really honest here.

I would suggest the girl go with you. After all, how many times does
a woman get to marry an ardoo who is so stuck up in morality and all. I mean the guy is going
to be easy to manage and whip around. Its a dream come true. ;)
 
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Bhai Vijay, tu tae munnae kati pakka kae choodega.
Nu kar, samjhan mein kasar reh gi ho eeb bhi tae ya tae
oooe proff tae baat kar le, err na tae Jatland ke
Superman tae batla le....he he he he...tere tahin woh hi
theek rehweega.

Mere dhorre aur tame koni yaar.
 
We get lot of pointed opinions - don't we ?

It is rather interesting to note so varied opinions on an issue about which hardly anyone knows all the FACTS. Of course, a male-female affair always attracts everybody attention and then it becomes everybody's business. We are bombarded with moral policing, judgement announcements and much more. Mr. Raj Rathee went on a limb and hypothesized various scenarios, but only to be looked at as a devil's advocate. Mr. Rajendra skillfully framed the situation as a general discussion about "LOVE". Then there are all those who have loaded guns to shoot the guy and the dame. Even Jesus Christ once said, "Let Him Without Sin Cast the First Stone." The moral of Jesus's narration is that we should exercise caution in passing judgments. I have no idea what the exact truth is - I certainly know that none of these moral policemen here know the truth. This proves that we rarely utilize our senses to their better use and we easily get swayed by some tantalizing and juicy write-up. I will not pass more judgments here.
 
Raj, eeb aap ban hon ne ho rae so..

Everyone is a free human being and has a right to make such
choices. The female involved is no kid, and is quite openly with
him. So all that crap about teacher-student relationship is a bunch
of Bihari poop.
It is sad to see people so quickly pass judgement on personal lives.
Who knows anything here ? ..The possibilities are endless.
I don't want to make this prof. sound like a hero or anything. But
I do think we should respect him as a free human being who gets to make
such choices in life. Smart choice or stupid choice...it is his for the making.

Interesting discussion, just skimmed through it quickly.

I would go for the more liberal viewpoint, mostly with Raj’s take on this. In cases like this, its kind of difficult to say in black and white, its so much situation/circumstances specific, Goin’ to the micro level instead of just looking at it superficially/morally, we really have no clue what either of them have gone through or what exactly has happened, it must have been indeed more complicated than what we perceive sitting here alien to the whole ordeal the concerned guys might have gone through.

Kaun kitna moral hai sabne apnaa bera hai....:) ;) apne girebaan(ye hota kya hai, anybody??..LOL) main jhaank ke dekho..heh heh heh..;):D
 
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Budh Bhai Saheb,

Spot on.

What 1000 year old culture are we talking about here? Have you visited a school and seen teachers encouraging mass copying.

This professor is better than those teachers who rape their students. Remember what happened in JIND, Haryana a few months back. At least this person is openly accepting that he is in 'PREM' with this girl. Ar bahi vo puranni kahawat hai na: "jo dhai askar PREM ke seekh gya, usne or padhai ki jaroorat na hai".

Regards,

JS Malik
 
Lets castrate the immoral prick!!! Off with his head! Latka do usse
beech chorhaye pay. How dare he !

And while at it, lets hang the 21 year old whore as well. Send her to a
brothel. And lets go there to punish her ! And then off with her head too!
...neah..lets just keep her around and punish her more frequently... :p

Jesus Christ!!! Have some respect for the free human spirit!!


;) :eek:


Anyways, some quotes on Morality for your reading pleasure:


Morality is always the product of terror; its chains and strait-waistcoats are fashioned by those who dare not trust others, because they dare not trust themselves, to walk in liberty.

Morality is a burglar’s tool whose merit lies in never being left behind at the scene of the crime.

Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike.

Morality, a muzzle for the will; logic, a climbing iron for the mind.

Morality is the custom of one’s country and the current feeling of one’s peers. Cannibalism is moral in a cannibal country.

All morality depends upon our sentiments; and when any action or quality of the mind pleases us after a certain manner we say it is virtuous; and when the neglect or nonperformance of it displeases us after a like manner, we say that we lie under an obligation to perform it.

Freedom, morality, and the human dignity of the individual consists precisely in this; that he does good not because he is forced to do so, but because he freely conceives it, wants it, and loves it.

Modern morality and manners suppress all natural instincts, keep people ignorant of the facts of nature and make them fighting drunk on bogey tales.

Subordination to morality can be slavish or vain or self- interested or resigned or gloomily enthusiastic or thoughtless or an act of despair, just as subordination to a prince can be: in itself it is nothing moral.

A system of morality which is based on relative emotional values is a mere illusion, a thoroughly vulgar conception which has nothing sound in it and nothing true.

Conventionality is not morality. Self-righteousness is not religion. To attack the first is not to assail the last. To pluck the mask from the face of the Pharisee is not to lift an impious hand to the Crown of Thorns.




Arre ow Rajje...merra pyarre Rajje[Shri Krishna] reh jya....tnne hadde lathh bajjwanne sein...uss sussrre professor arr uss ki mashukka ka tei kimme ho nahin parr hadde aag laag jya gi....what is this liberalism for........appne gharra mei hum kittna liberalism krran saan.........ruuk jyao bhai...mann jyao...iss trah ke rishte gandggi ke illawa kuchh na huya karrte....na tei mharre saare tau harr paad-tiwwadde krein pawein hei...nyu gharr na bassya karrte.......Sirff aazzaddi...Human liberty ka koe matlab nahin jab takk unn liberties ke saath maryadaon ka nirvah nahin kiya jayye......aur aggar koi sirff liberty ki duhaai de karr jinddagi ko sustain karrne ki baat karta hei tou wo aek vichittar duvidhha mei hei......Many-2 sacrifices are required in love...and many more to sustain it all through the life.Angrezzi humme bhi aati hei aur ussko ornamental bhi karnna aata hei....please don't throw your pointless arrows[not you some so called intellectuals out here ] to prove a futile and unrealistic and unsustainable arguement.I have a wife and children...i also like so many females and they too resiprocate feelings ...does that mean that i should fool my wife and innocent children with whom i shared every piece of life and have a ball on the name of so called Lust[some call it love] and betray the trust which was built on a solid foundation of love,concerns for each other over a long period of time.Do you mean that it is so simple to twist the emotions in seconds and behave like a pig.There is no moral policing by me at all....but there is a difference between sensible human beings and animals. Let us talk sense.
 
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You clearly are not getting it dude!
Lets just put it this way, given some ardoo like you on one hand and a
50year old prof on the other hand, I could very well understand
why any girl would go with the prof! ;) :eek:

But awwwwright...let me be really honest here.

I would suggest the girl go with you. After all, how many times does
a woman get to marry an ardoo who is so stuck up in morality and all. I mean the guy is going
to be easy to manage and whip around. Its a dream come true. ;)

Raj, don't put up things this way, i mean pulling my name in this issue. We are discussing here but now you are trying to argue.
Your point of view is totally different from me, so i see no point to carry on further.
 
Bhai Vijay, tu tae munnae kati pakka kae choodega.
Nu kar, samjhan mein kasar reh gi ho eeb bhi tae ya tae
oooe proff tae baat kar le, err na tae Jatland ke
Superman tae batla le....he he he he...tere tahin woh hi
theek rehweega.

Mere dhorre aur tame koni yaar.


What any superman have to do with this issue and why should i ask him ( if any superman here ).
What do you want to say ?

Time kisi ke paas bhi nahin hai
 
...i also like so many females and they too resiprocate feelings ....

Chhhhaaaaaaaa gey Chachaaaa!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
He he he...Kimme mahare tae bhi shikha do!!! Nueh Chacha chacha
na kehnte hum aap ne. Mahara bhi bhala kar do. Ek aadh daao-pech
uren bhi baga do...... :D
 
Chhhhaaaaaaaa gey Chachaaaa!!!!!!!! :D :D :D
He he he...Kimme mahare tae bhi shikha do!!! Nueh Chacha chacha
na kehnte hum aap ne. Mahara bhi bhala kar do. Ek aadh daao-pech
uren bhi baga do...... :D



Ha...ha...ha..ha...ha...ha...ha..ha......dekhya merra diversanary hathhkandda...ha..ha...ha..ha...konya battaun...pehlyan panh daab merre.
 
Iss gyan tahin tae chacha kuch kara lo...Paan tae hum apne chacha
ke nueh daba dente. Yeh bhi key baat kahi. :D



Ha...ha...ha..ha....Gyan ka tissayya rajje....ha...ha...ha...ha...ha..ha....Challo shantti tei hui.Ke dhharta sei inn battan mei bhai.......nirra rolla sei aur kuchh na.Feffdyan mei purri oxygen khinchchya karro....arr OM-2 bolya karo......Ji sa aa jya ga.Kyun Rajje?
 
Arre ow Rajje...merra pyarre Rajje[Shri Krishna] reh jya....tnne hadde lathh bajjwanne sein...uss sussrre professor arr uss ki mashukka ka tei kimme ho nahin parr hadde aag laag jya gi....what is this liberalism for........appne gharra mei hum kittna liberalism krran saan.........ruuk jyao bhai...mann jyao...iss trah ke rishte gandggi ke illawa kuchh na huya karrte....na tei mharre saare tau harr paad-tiwwadde krein pawein hei...nyu gharr na bassya karrte.......Sirff aazzaddi...Human liberty ka koe matlab nahin jab takk unn liberties ke saath maryadaon ka nirvah nahin kiya jayye......aur aggar koi sirff liberty ki duhaai de karr jinddagi ko sustain karrne ki baat karta hei tou wo aek vichittar duvidhha mei hei......Many-2 sacrifices are required in love...and many more to sustain it all through the life.Angrezzi humme bhi aati hei aur ussko ornamental bhi karnna aata hei....please don't throw your pointless arrows[not you some so called intellectuals out here ] to prove a futile and unrealistic and unsustainable arguement.I have a wife and children...i also like so many females and they too resiprocate feelings ...does that mean that i should fool my wife and innocent children with whom i shared every piece of life and have a ball on the name of so called Lust[some call it love] and betray the trust which was built on a solid foundation of love,concerns for each other over a long period of time.Do you mean that it is so simple to twist the emotions in seconds and behave like a pig.There is no moral policing by me at all....but there is a difference between sensible human beings and animals. Let us talk sense.



Exactly Sir....i too agree with your views....main bhi iss relation ko theek nahin maanti.....sab galat hai issmain....acchai kuch nahin hai...issliye ek baar hi dekhi ye news phir dekhne ka mann bhi nahin kiya....i really don't like those people who forget their culture and morality...issliye discuss karna pasand nahin kiya kisi ke saath bhi...kuch seekhne ko to milega nahin isse....lakin ye nahin socha tha ki ye thread bhi itni lambi kheench di jaayegi;) ...just joking....everybody can write what they think.
 
I will approach this a la sumit dahiya style.


Politician is stupid

Professor is stupid

Girl is stupid

Can we close this thread now.....plsssss :D
 
I will approach this a la sumit dahiya style.


Politician is stupid

Professor is stupid

Girl is stupid

Can we close this thread now.....plsssss :D

Ya ke baat huee bhai ? Did you or for that anyone try to understand the thought process of people who get involved into such relationships? I would have expected members to stretch their thought process and come out with some scientific answers to such human behaviour. There is lot written on such human behaviour in books. Just for the information of members this is what one Russian matrimonial site has to say on age difference;
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What age difference is acceptable for Russian ladies?

5-15 years difference is perfectly normal. I personally know a few couples who married under these conditions. The age difference between spouses I know is 9, 10, 12, 13 and 18 years. They are all women who have not been married previously, and did not have children. The age difference between my husband and I is 12.5 years.

Many of my clients said they were surprised at receiving letters from attractive professional women (doctors, economists, accountants) 10-15 years younger than themselves. In the USA., this age gap is beyond reality. In your search for a Russian wife, it is not. I think one of the reasons is that women in Russia grow wise at a younger age, and having a relationship with a foreign man of their own age is like having affair with a teenager. Difficulties in life make people thoughtful, the same way that age does. The age difference also adds to their feeling of security.
On the other hand, you must not have unrealistic expectations. If you are in your late 50's or 60's, you must not expect to find a 20-year old single girl. Many wonderful, attractive ladies in their late 30s or 40s will be eager to make your acquaintance; half of marriage agencies' female clients belong to this age group, and you won't have problems with attracting their attention. This is realistic.

In special cases if you are very good looking, or very intelligent/rich/famous, you can make it with an age difference of 20 years or more. But it will be an exception, not the rule.

If your aim is a lifetime commitment, be sure to take age issues into consideration. Dating agencies love to tell stories about Russian ladies preferring much older husbands, and that it won't affect your marriage; but that's exactly what these tales are - stories.

I believe you are big enough to face reality and resist the temptation to pursue myths. Be lead by common sense, and don't let yourself be fooled by young entrepreneurs from the matrimonial industry.

Virtually all women will not have a problem with age difference up to 10 years, and many find acceptable age difference up to 15 years, a few will be OK with age difference up to 20 years. But anything beyond this will put you on a very thin ice, and you are likely to encounter problems in your search.

I must also say that acceptable age difference for Russian women is plummeting with every year. The more foreign men seek partners in Russia, the better choice women have, the higher their requirements become.

Young girls tend to be less worried about difference in age than older women: a girl of 20 years old is normally interested in men up to 45, whilst a woman of 40 years old will usually limit her search to men under 55. Thus, if you are 48, a girl of 27 years old may consider you a suitable candidate and a girl of 35 may decide you are too old for her.

The thing is, women in Russia want to have family and children real bad, and this is the main reason pushing them to seek husbands elsewhere, since in Russia there is officially only 88 males for 100 females (see Statistics). According to Russian cultural paradigm, a woman should be married with children; being single is a shame. Any woman who is unmarried at the age of 22 is considered as "old maid"

Women 22-33 want to start family as soon as possible. The pick of the society's pressure on the woman to get married is at the age of 27; after that her family and friends start thinking she will never get married and give up on her; she herself also starts getting used to the idea she will never have her own family. Once women become content with the idea of never getting married, their requirements to a prospective partner soar. Just getting married to avoid the shame of being single is already not enough for them
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RK^2
 
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