Let's Discuss UP Election: Opinions, Exits: Haathi, Haath, Kamal Aur Cycle!

[ashishsehrawat9]

Yes, friend you may have seen but our observations can be different, YADAV GETTING obc IS THEIR ACHIEVEMENT AND HOW THEY HAVE GOT MORE JOBS, IS NOT THE POINT OF DISCUSSION BUT THEY HAVE GOT MORE, EVEN IN EDUCATION, IF YOU COLLECT DATAS, YOU FIND YADAV MUCH AHEAD IN NOT ONLY up BUT IN OTHER STATES ALSO, sports they are no less, the real strength of community lies in its unity, where yadav have gone ahead of khalsas and keralites what to talk about jats who are poorest on this front, son goto jat & yadav villages and see the condion, you will realize the difference, You see even their behaviour(which is the end result /froof of education) is much batter than jats,

See there are disputes/conflicts in the other communities as well.Even the yadavs of UP & haryana have conflicts with each other.i have many yadav friends who belongs to UP & give abuse the Lalu prasad yadav who has destoyed Bihar a lot.
Some persons have their personal interests sometimes.For example,yashpal malik want himself to be pronounced as the top jat leader that he can never achieve...............Even if you see the posters & pemplates ohf him those contains no picturd of Ch charan singh,Ch Devillal ,Sir chotu ram & other great leaders.

He is really destroying the image of the community.Mere sabhi Haryana kai bhaio sai request hai ki isse sale ko Haryana mai gusne bhi mat dena.Recently he is found to be involved in property dispute cases in Ghaziabad & Meerut.I can assure you he can never get any support in UP as gets last time.He has been catched in may property dispute cases.
He only wants to take the credit of jat's reservation & he has nothing to do with community........................................

Above one bro rights that he was not able to even gather 500 people,that is correct.

As per my thinking if the Congress performs good this time in UP election & next Central elections,Jats can get the reservation...........

jaats have the reservation statewise in many states like UP,Delhi ,rajasthan,Himachal pradesh.So its not the jaats only who have the disputes on some issues.....................

Fight for reservation is a long lasting fight.We have to still struggle a lot for getting this.I hope we will get the reservation soon,just we need to maintian the unity among us...................

 

[piush_tomar]

Ashish Kya aap JAT NAHI HAI? Aaap Paida as a JAT huey the ya congressey?

See there are disputes/conflicts in the other communities as well.Even the yadavs of UP & haryana have conflicts with each other.i have many yadav friends who belongs to UP & give abuse the Lalu prasad yadav who has destoyed Bihar a lot.
Some persons have their personal interests sometimes.For example,yashpal malik want himself to be pronounced as the top jat leader that he can never achieve...............Even if you see the posters & pemplates ohf him those contains no picturd of Ch charan singh,Ch Devillal ,Sir chotu ram & other great leaders.

He is really destroying the image of the community.Mere sabhi Haryana kai bhaio sai request hai ki isse sale ko Haryana mai gusne bhi mat dena.Recently he is found to be involved in property dispute cases in Ghaziabad & Meerut.I can assure you he can never get any support in UP as gets last time.He has been catched in may property dispute cases.
He only wants to take the credit of jat's reservation & he has nothing to do with community........................................

Above one bro rights that he was not able to even gather 500 people,that is correct.

As per my thinking if the Congress performs good this time in UP election & next Central elections,Jats can get the reservation...........

jaats have the reservation statewise in many states like UP,Delhi ,rajasthan,Himachal pradesh.So its not the jaats only who have the disputes on some issues.....................

Fight for reservation is a long lasting fight.We have to still struggle a lot for getting this.I hope we will get the reservation soon,just we need to maintian the unity among us...................

Ashish, Are you congress supporter or "jat reservation" supporter? Jab tum paida hue the to party ke naam se paida hue they ya JAT hokar key? tell people here do you want jat reservation for the community or not? aur agar yes than why this 500 or 50000 people ? Aur agar yes than why this and that?
Kya Ashish tumahrey khilaaf mein koi jhoota case UP ya haryana ke kisi police station mein file nahi karwa sakta ya tum mere khilaaf koi political motivated case nahi karwa saktey? This is a different ball game which is being played by these political party leader.
Ashish, Your main concern is congress alliance performance but not Jat Reservation right?
Jaha tak 500 jat haryana mein aaney ki baat hai to yeh sharam ki baat JAT KAUM ki hai naki us Aaadmi ki jiskey khud ke bacchey ko reservation bhi nahi chahiye.
Jaha tak Jat reservation ki importance ka matalab hai woh na to AJIT SINGH NA HUDDA NA CHAUTALA AUR NAHI HI TERE AUR MERE BACCHEY KO CHAHIYE, YEH TO US AADMI KE LIYE HAI JISEY JATLAND KA "J" OR FACEBOOK KA "F" BHI NAHI PATA?
Agar facebook per "Jat Reservation" profile per Video dekh kar aap yeh jaan nahi paaye ke kis aadmi ne kya kaha to I dont think its really good to discuss it here on jatland.
I will request JL admin kindly remove comment posted here about the person and organisation who is fighting day and night for this demand for Jat community. Jatland is smaaj ko bahut kuch de raha hai aur aagey bhi deta rahega.

 

[yogigodara]

"jat reservation" on facebook released a video ..watch it.

नेता जी हैं कहाँ यह तो बता दो ?
एक दिन मय्यड़ में शक्ल दिखी थी नेता जी की और उसते अगले दिन ndtv पर , उसके बाद से पता नहीं नेता जी देश में कौन से धरने पर बैठे हैं ?
हरियाणा का जाट भावुक हैं जल्दी बहक जाता हैं , कुछ भाई इसकी बातों में आकर मय्यड़ चले तो गए पर ये नेता जी तो उनका एक रात भी साथ नहीं निभा पाए , उनको ट्रैक पर छोड़ कर दुसरे राज्यों में आन्दोलन का बहाना बना कर दिल्ली भाग आये | नेता जी श्याने हैं इन्हें पता हैं इनके कहने से शायद हरियाणा में ही कोई जाट जान दे सकता हैं |
पिछली बार भी मार्च में जब आन्दोलन अपनी चरम सीमा तक गया था तो इस आन्दोलन में यु.पी व हरियाणा के सिवाए और कहीं किसी अन्य राज्य में कोई ढंग से ट्रैक नहीं रोक पाया था तो अब नेता जी कौन से राज्य में गए हैं बंधा लगवाने ?
पिछले साल मार्च के आन्दोलन में नेता जी काफुरपुर ट्रैक पर बैठे थे तो एक रात भारी तादाद में पुलिस देख के अपना बोरिया बिस्तर उठा कर ट्रैक के आजू बाजू बैठ गए, ना ट्रैक खाली किया ना रोका अजीब तरीका था यह आन्दोलन का , लगता हैं नेताजी का वो पुलिस वाला डर निकला नहीं हैं तभी तो हरियाणा में एक रात भी नहीं रुके, हरियाणा के भोले लोगो को अकेले ट्रैक पर छोड़ आये |
नेता जी ने फेसबुक पर कौम के नाम से जो प्रोफाइल बना रखी हैं उनपर यदि कोई इनसे सवाल करता हैं तो नेता जी को यह सुहाता नहीं हैं, इसलिए सवाल करने वाले को बैन कर देते हैं | कौमी प्रोफाइल पर लोग सवाल करेंगे , लोगो का शक दूर करना इनका फर्ज हैं पर लगता हैं शायद नेता जी के पास जवाब नहीं हैं इसलिए ऐसा करते हैं |
नेता जी बात करते हैं जाट एकता की और खुद यु.पी के एकमात्र राष्ट्रिय सत्र के जाट नेता का विरोध कर रहे हैं |
इनको केंद्र में आरक्षण चाहिए और केंद्र में सरकार कांग्रेस की हैं , कांग्रेस के अभी दो साल पड़े हैं | कांग्रेस का विरोध करके क्या नेता जी जाटों को अपने हक के लिए दो साल और इंतजार करवाना चाहते हैं ?
चौ.अजीत सिंह ने अभी सरकार में हिस्सा लिया हैं उनको एक मौका देना चाहिए |

 

[yogigodara]

ashish, are you congress supporter or "jat reservation" supporter? Jab tum paida hue the to party ke naam se paida hue they ya jat hokar key? Tell people here do you want jat reservation for the community or not? Aur agar yes than why this 500 or 50000 people ? Aur agar yes than why this and that?
Kya ashish tumahrey khilaaf mein koi jhoota case up ya haryana ke kisi police station mein file nahi karwa sakta ya tum mere khilaaf koi political motivated case nahi karwa saktey? This is a different ball game which is being played by these political party leader.
Ashish, your main concern is congress alliance performance but not jat reservation right?
Jaha tak 500 jat haryana mein aaney ki baat hai to yeh sharam ki baat jat kaum ki hai naki us aaadmi ki jiskey khud ke bacchey ko reservation bhi nahi chahiye.
Jaha tak jat reservation ki importance ka matalab hai woh na to ajit singh na hudda na chautala aur nahi hi tere aur mere bacchey ko chahiye, yeh to us aadmi ke liye hai jisey jatland ka "j" or facebook ka "f" bhi nahi pata?
Agar facebook per "jat reservation" profile per video dekh kar aap yeh jaan nahi paaye ke kis aadmi ne kya kaha to i dont think its really good to discuss it here on jatland.
I will request jl admin kindly remove comment posted here about the person and organisation who is fighting day and night for this demand for jat community. Jatland is smaaj ko bahut kuch de raha hai aur aagey bhi deta rahega.

अब यह लोग कौन असली जाट हैं और कौन नकली जाट हैं , इसकी भी बताएँगे |
माना के कोई किसे के खिलाफ झूठी fir करवा सकता हैं बदनाम करने के लिए , परन्तु ऐसे आरोप एक बार लग सकते दो बार लग सकते हैं , पर इतनी बार ?
पियूष जी आप काफी नजदीकी लगते हैं यशपाल जी के तो क्या आप बता सकते हैं की आजकल यशपाल मलिक के खिलाफ एक प्रचार या दुष्प्रचार चल रहा हैं की यशपाल मलिक जेल भी जा चूका हैं , बताएँगे की क्या यह सच हैं , अगर हैं तो किस मामले में गए थे जेल ?
जो बात हैं वो तो कही जाएगी, मोडरेटर क्या करेंगे, कहाँ कहाँ चुप करोगे लोगो को ?

 

[ashishsehrawat9]

Ashish, Are you congress supporter or "jat reservation" supporter? Jab tum paida hue the to party ke naam se paida hue they ya JAT hokar key? tell people here do you want jat reservation for the community or not? aur agar yes than why this 500 or 50000 people ? Aur agar yes than why this and that?
Kya Ashish tumahrey khilaaf mein koi jhoota case UP ya haryana ke kisi police station mein file nahi karwa sakta ya tum mere khilaaf koi political motivated case nahi karwa saktey? This is a different ball game which is being played by these political party leader.
Ashish, Your main concern is congress alliance performance but not Jat Reservation right?
Jaha tak 500 jat haryana mein aaney ki baat hai to yeh sharam ki baat JAT KAUM ki hai naki us Aaadmi ki jiskey khud ke bacchey ko reservation bhi nahi chahiye.
Jaha tak Jat reservation ki importance ka matalab hai woh na to AJIT SINGH NA HUDDA NA CHAUTALA AUR NAHI HI TERE AUR MERE BACCHEY KO CHAHIYE, YEH TO US AADMI KE LIYE HAI JISEY JATLAND KA "J" OR FACEBOOK KA "F" BHI NAHI PATA?
Agar facebook per "Jat Reservation" profile per Video dekh kar aap yeh jaan nahi paaye ke kis aadmi ne kya kaha to I dont think its really good to discuss it here on jatland.
I will request JL admin kindly remove comment posted here about the person and organisation who is fighting day and night for this demand for Jat community. Jatland is smaaj ko bahut kuch de raha hai aur aagey bhi deta rahega.

Bhai pehil baat to yeh ki na to Congress meri risthedar hai aur na he BJP ya aur koi party.Ak badhe bhudo ki kahawat hai ki apne kaam kai liye thoda sa compromise karna patha hai.......vo he Ajit singh kar raha hai.bahle he Ajit singh nai past mai bhot galtia ki hai lekin ab vo tik kaam kar raha hai..................Congress is time central mai hai,Congress has the power to give the reservation..............

Acha bhai pehle to tu mujhe nu batha,jab isne Railway track rokha tab iske khilaf kyo case darj kyo nahi hua(which is a crime as per laws & rules of railways).Mai batata tu,kyoki isse Mayawati ka full support tha aur yeh Ajit singh ki khilafat kar raha tha...............Is par kisi ak nahi kayi property dispute kai case hai????????tu yashpal Malik kai gun gawe yaha si.............

Jab court kai order aaye thai tab isne railway track khali kyo kar diya tha????????????jara batayga bhai?????????Kyoki court kai sarkar bhi nahi chalti..............Track khali karne kai order to Haryana mai bhi aaye thai,vo to na hate track sai????????????Yeh yashpal Malik jaato ka itna sagha to ,to Bhatta parsaul kyo nahi paucha yeh?????????tappal mai jab jaato par gholi chal rahi thi tab kaha ghode bach kar so raha tha.............?????????????????????????Bhai jara batha ..............

2 saal kai andhar Vasundhra plaza jaisi jagah jiski kimmar 4-5 crore sai uppar hai ,kaha sai kharid liya innai?????????hume bhi bata bhai??????????Is yashpal Malik ko log dekh chuke hai ki yeh kitna himmat vala hai ,islie log iski baato mai nahi aa rahe.......

Tu iski itni himmayat kar raha hai ,agar yeh ak baar kehe dai yeh bhi railway track par datha rahega chaie kisi court kai order aawe,to chal hum bhi aawe iske ghel??????????Bhai mai is yashpal Malik ko ache sai jannu yeh kitne pani mai hai ..................

Bhai chaie koi chautla yo ya ajit singh ,reservation ka fyada to sabko milega...........Tujhe ak baar bhai Hawa singh sangwan ka naam yaad nahi aaya..............Vo bhi bandha court kai order kai baad bhai track par datha hua tha.........

Yashpal Malik kyo baag gaya tha??????????????Yeh jaisa fight kar raha hai reservation ki mujhe patha hai.....................................................
Bakhi rahi baat yeh ki jaat community janti hai ki Yashapl Malik kaisa aadmi hai islie vaha 500 lig bhi nahi aaye????????They know that Hooda & Ajit singh are trying to increase pressure on Congres for jat's reservation..................

Yeh yashpal Malik kya Ch.charan singh sai badha ho gaya kya ???????????????Agar yeh jaato kai himayati hai to faar Ajit singh kai khilaf kyo prachar kar raha hai UP elections mai??????????Kyoki yeh Mayawati ka chaila hai........................isse to jaat hone kai nate Ajit singh kai saat hona chaie..........

 

[cutejaatsandeep]

sir let it b any community or any religion they always come together once dere identity or self respect is in danger...we hindus think tht muslims r soo much united thn y pakistan hav bomb blasts everyday...people from other communities say tht lik punjabis,baniyas etc..they all say tht jato mai to bahut unity hoti hai...hume doosro mai hamesha unity zeyada lagti hai..its a human nature....not ur or my fault

 

[ravindersura]

फेसबुक पर यशपाल मलिक की नियत निति पर उठाये गए सवाल ......

'' यशपाल मलिक गाज़ियाबाद में नजरबंद ''
कोई भी जन-आन्दोलन एक युद्ध की तरह होता हैं ,संघर्ष होता हैं , युद्ध की तरह इन जन-आन्दोलनों में भी रणनीतिया बनाई जाती हैं मोर्चे बनाये जाते हैं |
आज के वक़्त में हमारे समाज का जो जन-आन्दोलन चल रहा हैं उसकी शुरुआत हिसार के मय्यड़ गाँव से एक जनसभा करके की गई और जनसभा के बाद मय्यड़ गाँव के पास के रामायण गाँव के रेलवे ट्रैक को इसका मोर्चा बनाया गया | और इस लड़ाई के सेनापति या अगवाई करने वाले नेता जी हैं यशपाल मलिक जो हिसार में इस मोर्चे की शुरुआत करके खुद उसी रात दूसरी जगह मोर्चे लगाने की बात कहकर वहां से आ गए | उसके बाद नेता जी ने कहाँ क्या मोर्चा लगाया उसका तो पता नहीं पर यह खबर जरुर आई के नेताजी को गाज़ियाबाद में नजरबंद कर दिया हैं | अब इसमें सवाल यह उठते हैं की :-
१) नेता जी को पुलिस ने किस मोर्चे से गिरफ्तार करके उनको गाज़ियाबाद उनके घर पर नजरबंद किया हैं ?
२) अगर नेताजी घर पर ही मौजूद थे तो फिर नेता जी घर पर क्या कर रहे थे जब इस ठिठुरती ठण्ड में जाट समाज रेल ट्रैक पर बैठा हैं ?
एक नेता या सेनापति का यह उसूल होता हैं की जब वह कोई आन्दोलन या लड़ाई शुरू करता हैं तो वो तब तक अपने घर नहीं जाता जब तक उस लड़ाई का कोई निर्णय ना हो जाए | अब यह नेताजी अपने घर पर क्या कर रहे थे ?
नेताजी हर बार ऐसी हरक़त क्यों करते हैं ? नेताजी को ऐसा किस से डर लगता हैं ?
नेता जी हर बार क्यों इस भोले समाज की जान दाव पर लगा कर खुद पीछे हट जाते हैं ?
क्या यहीं होता हैं जान की बाजी लगाना ?
ऐसे नजरबंद होने में जान को कहाँ खतरा हैं, समझ से परे हैं ?
जान की बाजी तो उन बेचारे भोले जाटों की लगी हैं जो नेताजी की बातो में आकर इस ठिठुरती ठण्ड में दिन रात रेल ट्रैक पर डटे हैं |

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[cutejaatsandeep]

bhai koi yashpal malik ke baare mai utlaaa ni boleegaaa warnaa piyush tomar nee gussa aa jagaaa....bhai timee aan pee harr kissi ki aukadd pataa chalti jaise ibb yashpal malik ki laag gi.....iska ke jawab degaa tu piyush tomar..

 

[yogeshteotia12]

bhai koi yashpal malik ke baare mai utlaaa ni boleegaaa warnaa piyush tomar nee gussa aa jagaaa....bhai timee aan pee harr kissi ki aukadd pataa chalti jaise ibb yashpal malik ki laag gi.....iska ke jawab degaa tu piyush tomar..

sir we dont hv to hate our fellow jat ...we should bring him in the right track.....!!!

 

[yogeshteotia12]

As my knowledge goes, erlier gujjars and yadavs were quite behind jats in all respect discussed above, but today the reality have changed, now yadav have gone ahead of jats due to their hard work and unity, ofcourse gujjars are still lacking behind, Gundagardi is not considered a sign of prosparity or superiority, I personally feel that if jats donot wakeup, even gujjars will overtake us, we cannot survive only on past history, we have to work, donot compare one or two individuals but as a whole community today yadav are batter than jats in education, services and economically, another point is that over all the condition of yadav and gujjars have inproved at batter speed where as jats are moving slow except education,

i dont think u r ryt sir,leaving gujjars of delhi ncr ,others are in a very bad shape....

 

[fateh]

i dont think u r ryt sir,leaving gujjars of delhi ncr ,others are in a very bad shape....

Yogesh, i ALSO FEEL YOUR COMENT IS RIGHT, dear read again my post secondly read history of gujjars for correct assessment, I never said that they are batter but certainly if jats keep on fighting thenselves and donot work that positin can be changed

 

[vikkisingh]

POLLING COMPLETE

I REQUEST MEMBERS TO POST THEIR VIEWS ON POSSIBLE WINNING PARTIES AND COMBINATIONS

AS PER MY UNDERSTANDING WE CAN NOT TOTALLY DISSMISS BSP IT STILL HAS A STRONG CASTE BASE WHICH MATTERS ON MANY SEATS

by all accounts AMUL BABY is in for a shock but they might be important in case of a hung assembly which many are predicting

mypersonal opuinion is against mulayam and sp as they represent gunda forces and practice pro muslim policies which are very bad for all hindus
though SP WILL GET BENIFIT OF ANTI INCUMBENCY

 

[vikkisingh]

Ch ajit singh ka ghathjod

chaudhary sahab decided to go with congress for alliance

though he flip flops often yeh he is a politician what can be expected .....

IMO he played his cards well

though such move did not went well with many people bcoz of the anti congress sentiment and congress attitude is mostly anti jat

HERE IS NITIN GADKARIS TAKE ON RLD


http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/...-rld-nitin-gadkari-bjp-congress/1/175373.html



in summary gadkari is calling RLD A TAXI which anyone can hire

IS IT THE FRUSTRATION THAT RLD DID NOT ALLIGNED WITH BJP

DOES THIS MEAN GADKARI CAN SEE THE CONRESS RLD BENIFFITING FROM ALLIANCE AND HEADING FOR VICTORY???

 

[yogeshteotia12]

POLLING COMPLETE

I REQUEST MEMBERS TO POST THEIR VIEWS ON POSSIBLE WINNING PARTIES AND COMBINATIONS

AS PER MY UNDERSTANDING WE CAN NOT TOTALLY DISSMISS BSP IT STILL HAS A STRONG CASTE BASE WHICH MATTERS ON MANY SEATS

by all accounts AMUL BABY is in for a shock but they might be important in case of a hung assembly which many are predicting

mypersonal opuinion is against mulayam and sp as they represent gunda forces and practice pro muslim policies which are very bad for all hindus
though SP WILL GET BENIFIT OF ANTI INCUMBENCY

there are more chances of mulayam singh being c.m and it wont at all be good for jats.....coz he will support his own cast and no other caste........
if we are 6-7% of up population than y cnt we hv a jat c.m??????? as yadavs are also 8% of u.p population??????? and they hv got a hold of up politics apart from mulayam singh 3 times c.m ,ram naresh yadav (current governer of madhya pradesh) has been c.m under congress.....y so y???? y cnt jat become c.m of up??????

 

[ashishsehrawat9]

there are more chances of mulayam singh being c.m and it wont at all be good for jats.....coz he will support his own cast and no other caste........
if we are 6-7% of up population than y cnt we hv a jat c.m??????? as yadavs are also 8% of u.p population??????? and they hv got a hold of up politics apart from mulayam singh 3 times c.m ,ram naresh yadav (current governer of madhya pradesh) has been c.m under congress.....y so y???? y cnt jat become c.m of up??????

Bro I agree to the point which you said.Fisrtly ,the population of yadavs will ber more than 8 %.It will be around 12-13 %.Secondly the govt. of SP was made a combination of Yadav-Muslim alliance alnng with a good number of other OBC castes & thakur votes due to Amar singh factor.Now Amar singh has left the SP,so thakurs will be divided among other parties as well.

Secondly Muslim votes will also divide in between the other parties as well except BJP.Congress is supposed to get a good chunk of Muslim votes as Congress has given the lollipop of 4.5 % to them in OBC quota.

Secondly you are forgetting than Ch. Charan singh has been elected as a CM of UP once.Secondly as far as the position of governor is concerned that has a diff process of selection.I will give you only one example.Have you listen about Virendra verma.
Please just a look at the link given below.You will come to know about his positions & political carrier.

http://parliamentofindia.nic.in/ls/lok12/biodata/12up83.htm

 

[prikshit]

4 days to go fate of UP will be out, although it seems no one with clear majority,but you never know.

 

[upendersingh]

Chief Ministers of Uttar Pradesh

 

[vicky84]

The dynamics of UP politics:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ns-for-major-parties/articleshow/12141323.cms

UP poll forecast: Future and options for major parties


The Uttar Pradesh assembly election results are due to be announced tomorrow. TOI examines the best and the worst scenarios for the major political parties. ​

Samajwadi Party (SP)
Best:

It gets a majority of its own, thus retaining its autonomy in UP and independence from Congress. Mulayam Singh Yadav regains his credentials as the country's tallest Muslim leader and may have a say in deciding who is elected President in July. He can collaborate with other non-Congress players to facilitate the prospects of a candidate like A P J ​

Abdul Kalam

to be Pratibha Patil's successor in Rashtrapati Bhawan. ​

Good:

It stops short of the magic figure in the 403-strong House but a tally of around 175 MLAs would automatically attract independents and "others" to meet the deficit. Once ensconced in office, Mulayam can use his famed poaching skills to boost his numbers. ​

Not-so-good:

Mulayam has to depend on ​

Congress

to form the government. Although Congress has said it will have no truck with SP, the need for a cushion against an increasingly restive Mamata Banerjee and the desire to have its own nominee in Rashtrapati Bhawan may force it to veer around to back the Samajwadis, possibly after a brief spell of President's rule. While the SP boss can get a few ministerial berths at the Centre, ​

Rahul Gandhi

can be trusted to set tough conditions, including support for a Congress nominee in the presidential election. The arrangement may not continue beyond 2014, as SP will find it difficult to acquiesce to Congress's aspirations for a recovery in UP in Lok Sabha polls. ​

Bad:

It is forced to take the support of not just Congress but also smaller parties like RLD and Peace Party. The dependence will interfere with Akhilesh Yadav's "good governance" project: something that will be crucial for the party's plan for an image makeover through good governance to milk it in Lok Sabha polls. The coalition may collapse in 2014, in any case. ​

Worst:

BJP and BSP together get half the seats, thus blocking the formation of a SP-led government. ​

Congress

It gets enough seats, say a tally of 60+, to ensure that SP cannot form the government without its support. It will do business with SP on its own terms, will have a say in presidential election. It will keep a safe distance from Samajwadis and can pull them down by the next LS polls, clearing the way for a midterm poll in the state to be held under central rule. ​

2nd --

Party wins less than 60, but BJP and BSP get majority of seats and decide to form a coalition. This should ensure the support of Samajwadis at the Centre who are seen as more stable allies than Mamata or Mayawati. Such a tally for BSP-BJP would be possible only if there is no SP sweep, and will mean Congress has the room to do business in UP. ​

3rd --

SP forms the government either on its own or with the support of smaller parties. It will be a big setback for Rahul Gandhi. Also, while the party can get compensation of sorts in the form of support from BSP which has to move in a direction opposite to SP's, it may have to continue indulging Mamata, given Mayawati's maverick ways. ​

4th --

BJP and BSP get the majority of seats but the former decides not to form another coalition with Mayawati, thus reducing the need for SP or BSP to support Congress at the Centre. SP, out of power for long, may still join the government at the Centre, but will insist on better compensation since it is getting nothing in return from Congress in Lucknow. ​

Worst:

It finishes fourth, SP forms government on its own and BJP becomes the principal opposition. ​

Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP)

It will certainly hope to get a majority of its own, but that does not seem to be happening. ​

2nd --

It is forced to take the support of BJP and others to form the government. The dependence will cramp Mayawati's unique style and may further strengthen arch rival Mulayam's pro-Muslim credentials. However, with her core constituency intact -- a pre-condition for such a possibility -- Mayawati can settle for the compromise if only to deny Mulayam and because she can always resign after engaging in some "secular" grandstanding to wash the communal taint. ​

3rd --

Along with BJP, it is in a position to block the formation of an SP-led government, and is able to leverage its Lok Sabha numbers with Congress. ​

Worst:

SP retakes Lucknow and it loses the slot of principal opposition to BJP. ​

Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)

Its tally, combined with Mayawati's, helps it to deny Congress a role in government formation in Lucknow. Apart from the satisfaction of improved numbers after a long phase of steady decline, such a prospect will make it difficult for Congress to get support of either SP or BSP at the Centre automatically. This may also spell an opportunity to try to get someone "unfriendly" to Congress to be elected as President in July. ​

2nd --

It gets to play the main opposition and SP gets a majority, thus denying Congress the chance to play the kingmaker and sidelining BSP in the state. ​

3rd --

It finishes just ahead of Congress; even a slender lead over the rival will be a psychological salve for the party which was seen as fading away. ​

4th --

The party returns an improved performance but is forced to support Mayawati in Lucknow because BSP will have enough numbers to help its return in neighbouring Uttarakhand, an option which carries the risk of alienating upper castes. ​

Worst:

It finishes behind Congress which also gets to decide the shape of government in Lucknow.





​

 

[vicky84]

From Latest Election Results:

In U.P:

SP and BJP have done well. BJP surprised most! But looks like Congress + SP will make government in UP.

Punjab: BJP + SAD have a decisive lead and will make the government for sure.

Manipur: Congress has come as a major party.

Uttrakhand: BJP is almost neck and neck with congress.

Goa: BJP has the early lead.

Final results may differ.

Certainly bad performance by congress in these state elections and it will definitely reflect in 2014 general elections.

 

[rajpaldular]

So the day is finally here when the fortunes of many will be decided. Exit polls say that it is the end of road for Mayawati in Uttar Pradesh, but some parties have rejected the exit poll results as whimsical and unreal.

Today’s result will also determine BJP’s identity as a national party as in last year’s assembly poll they fared pretty badly. We will also come to know if Rahul Gandhi’s magic works for the congress and if his yatras in UP will pay off.

To know all this and more stay tuned for our live coverage on the results:

Uttar Pradesh
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[TD]119[/TD]
[TD]+53
[/TD]
[TD]119[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]BJP+
[/TD]
[TD]59
[/TD]
[TD]+19
[/TD]
[TD]59
[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Congress+
[/TD]
[TD]33
[/TD]
[TD]+6
[/TD]
[TD]33
[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]BSP
[/TD]
[TD]50
[/TD]
[TD]-81
[/TD]
[TD]50
[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Others
[/TD]
[TD]12
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]12[/TD]
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[TD]Awaited
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[TD][/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]130
[/TD]
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Punjab
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[TD]SAD+
[/TD]
[TD]55
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]55
[/TD]
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[TD]Congress+
[/TD]
[TD]36
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]36
[/TD]
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[TD]IND
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
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[TD]Others
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
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[TD][/TD]
[TD][/TD]
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Uttarakhand
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[/TD]
[TD]24
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]24
[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Congress
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]23
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Awaited
[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]11
[/TD]
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Manipur
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[TD]Congress+
[/TD]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]13
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]PDP
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]1
[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Awaited
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
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Goa
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[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
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[TD]BJP+
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]3
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]NCP
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Others
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Awaited
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]0
[/TD]
[TD]33
[/TD]
[/TR]
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10:09 am: SAD-BJP alliance zooms ahead in Punjab

The ruling SAD-BJP alliance is ahead in Punjab, leading in 65 Assembly seats, while the Congress is leading in 43 according to the trends available in 110 or the 117 Assembly constituencies till 10:00 AM.

The Congress was leading in Ghanaur, Amritsar Central, Khadoor Sahab, Garh Shankar, Talwandi Sabo, Rajpura, Fatehgarh Churian, Samana and Patiala. Former Chief Minister Amarinder Singh was leading in Patiala and his son Raninder Singh from Samana.

The SAD was leading in Raja Sansi, Sultanpur Lodhi, Faridkot, Nabha, Barnala, Attari, Ropar and Balachaur.

10:06 am: Punjab: SAD-BJP takes lead

10: 05 am: Uttarakhand: Close fight between Congress and BJP

10:004 am: Congress leading in Manipur

10:03 am: UP: SP on top, BJP surges, BSP set for rout

Uttar Pradesh's ruling Bahujan Samaj Party (BSP) was headed for a rout with the Samajwadi Party leading the vote count that began Tuesday and the BJP making stunning gains.

With trends available from 115 of the 403 assembly seats, the Samajwadi Party of Mulayam Singh Yadav led in 44, making huge inroads all across the state. More on this story

10:01 am: BJP leads in Uttarakhand, shocker for Congress

10:00 am: Unimaginable scenes : Congress trailing in Amethi, in Sultanpur - Salman Khurshid's wife trailing

10:00 am: THE BIG PICTURE: Is Congress getting wiped out in North India?

9:58 am: In GOA, BJP leads as single largest party.

9:54 am: In a shocker for the Congress, the party was trailing in all five assembly seats in Rae Bareli in Uttar Pradesh which is represented in the Lok Sabha by party president Sonia Gandhi.

Election Commission sources also said that the Congress was trailing in Jagdishpur constituency in neighbouring Amethi, which elected Congress general secretary Rahul Gandhi to the Lok Sabha.

9:49 am: UP party chief Rita Bahuguna Joshi has said she will take responsibility for such eventuality if the party fails to convert Gandhi's presence into votes.

9:45 am: SP surges ahead, BJP makes surprise gain in UP.

9:40 am: What can be said with certainty is that the Samajwadi Party will emerge as the largest party in UP.

9:37 am: Nirmala Sitharaman, BJP spokesperson says Congress has been torn. They have to introspect

9:35 am: Harish rawat : Congress will win in Uttarakhand. I was hoping for a smooth sailing. Even if it’s a tough fight, I’m still confident we’ll win.

9:33 am: SP leads in 119 seats now in UP

9:32 am: Congress in a comfortable lead in Uttarakhand but trailing in Maidan region; congress leader is optimistic.

9:30 am: Congress leads in Uttarahand

9:29 am: Akalis lead in Punjab

9:28 am: BJP emerges as the second largest party in UP

9:25 am: UP: The SP is ahead in 97 seats, BJP in 45, BSP in 37 and the Congress with its allies is leading in 21 seats. Independents and others are ahead in seven seats.

9:22 am: The Shiromani Akal Dal(SAD)-Bharatiya Janata Party(BJP) alliance took lead after the initial hour of counting, while the Congress was trailing.

9:24 am: BJP surprises many in UP

9:20 am: PUNJAB: Akalis have a slight edge over Cong

The Congress and the Akali Dal-BJP combine appeared to be in a neck-and-neck race in the Punjab Assembly polls, with the Akalis holding a slight edge.

The Akali-BJP combine is ahead in 43 seats, while the Congress is leading in 29 seats, of the total of 78 seats for which trends are in.

SAD candidate Veer Singh Lopoke was leading over his nearest rival Sukhbinder Singh Sarkaria of the Congress from Raja Sansi assembly segment by 668 votes.

From Ghanaur segment, Congress' Madan Lal Jalalpur was had a slender lead of 7 votes over his nearest rival Harinder Singh of the CPM.

In Gurdaspur, SAD's Gurbachan Singh Babbehali was leading over his nearest Congress rival Raman Behl by a narrow margin of 10 votes in early trends from the constituency.

In Phagwara, BJP's Som Prakash was leading over Balbir Kumar Sodhi of the Congress by 600 votes.

Education Minister Upinderjit Kaur was leading over her nearest rival Navtej Sidhu from Sultanpur Lodhi assembly constituency.

9:15 am: Amarinder Singh of Indian National Congress leading in Patiala over Surjit Singh Kohli of Shiromani Akali Dal.

9:12 am: BJP is darkhorse, gamechanger, in UP

9:09 am: In Goa, early trends show a lead for independent candidates.

9:05 am: Meanwhile, it is learnt that Uttar Pradesh Chief Minister Mayawati has sought an appointment with the UP Governor. Early trends are indicating that the Mayawati-led Bahujan Samaj Party is headed for a total rout in the state.

The UP elections are significant as they will decide the political fortunes of many a big player -- Congress leader Rahul Gandhi, BSP’s Mayawati, SP’s Mulayam Singh Yadav, among others.

9:03 am: Congress' Amita Singh trails in Amethi.

9:00 am: GOA: Early morning trends on Tuesday showed the BJP and the Congress fighting neck and neck in Goa, notching 2 seats each. The United Goan Democratic Party (UGDP) was at a close second, gaining 1 seat.

8:55 am: Samajwadi Party and the Bharatiya Janata Party have taken the early leads in Uttar Pradesh where counting of votes began after a seven-phased elections concluded on Saturday.

However, it is the Samajwadi Party that seems to be headed for power in the all-important state of UP.
Early trends indicate that the Mulayam Singh Yadav-led SP is leading on 68 seats, while the BJP was ahead in 45 seats.

The ruling BSP, which had 206 seats in the 403 strong Assembly in 2007 polls, was ahead in only 27 seats and seems to be losing in 47 seats out of a total of 170 seats for which trends are available.

Congress was leading in 21seats.

8:51 am:

Shivpal Singh Yadav of SP leading in Jaswantnagar seat (Uttar Pradesh) by 2803 votes

8:50 am: No impact of Kushwaha arrest on results, claims BJP

The BJP's Kalraj Mishra told reporters at the party's office in Lucknow that its association with Babu Singh Kushwaha did not tarnish the party. "There will be no impact of the Kushwaha factor," he was quoted as NDTV by saying. Mr Mishra added: 'I am confident the results will be in our favour."

8:45 am: In sync with the exit polls, the Samajwadi Party appears all set to emerge as the single largest party in the political live-wire state of Uttar Pradesh. However, the biggest surprise is the spectacular lead gained by the Bhartiya Janata Party as it is emerging as the second largest gainer, well ahead of the ruling Bahujan Samaj Party.

8:35 am: Trends show lead for BJP and SP in UP

8: 30 am: Congress leading in early counting in Punjab

March 6, 2012
8:20 am: Counting begins in five states
Early trends show Bahujan Samaj Party is slipping in while the BJP and Congress is gaining in Uttar Pradesh. Early leads in UP: BJP 12, SP 11, Cong 4, BSP 3