vinodks said:
Let me refine my argument:
1) I agree that we were talking about what kind of Jat image is being projected in Jatland(which is a closed community of Jats) but not how its being done infront of outsiders. But these two aspects are not independent, becuz if we implicitly assume this double-role it would be on the cost of little duplicity. We may not be talking all the time about Tau-Tai-Katra in other forums except humor but again I didn't literally meant that, most of useless posts like Hanuman being Jat, Mallika serawat, Hooda's dowry case, Resign and Taking rebirth in Jatland, welcome-welcome-welcome etc fall in that category. I agree sometimes usefull stuff also gets discussed here. But I think it would improve in time.
2) One reason I supported Ekta's point of view was that I am sure she didn't mean literally what she said and it looked unseemly the way she (as a newcomer) got bashed by seasoned members. Her inflaming sentence "..aren't we educated now" shows lack of proper words to convey her view but not meant to be read literally. If she joins discussion now by saying thats exactly what she meant then I would say she is being wrong.
3) I found your remark "..aage se gilli, peeche se pilli" very funny the first time I read it. But when it appeared four times as a reply to Jeetendra Sinsinwar's whinning, I wanted to say that its not good to keep pulling someone's leg all the time when that person takes things seriously and posts something becuz of which threads get scratched. I also enjoy leg-pulling but when it comes to hurt someone I don't.
4) I think I missed the fight in that thread:-(((( so sad... I didn't check posts on time and it got scratched. So I have no complaints against moderators.
-Vinod
Vinod, we do appreciate your trying to be
understanding of Ekta's probable inability to
express herself. But on an internet forum we have nothing
much to go on except for the words we see.
It is just so hard to now know who is having what issues,
who suffered what childhood trauma, who just checked
out of a mental ward, or, for that matter, if Vinod is still
intoxicated from the Holi celeberations...
D) and so on.
If we did we could be more understanding and accomodating.
But we don't. That is why I have repeatedly said here, and will say
again: People shouldn't take anything personally here.
Responses should be seen as words responding to words.
Ideas Vs. ideas. If people can get that I think we'd not
see so many problems here on Jatland.
There are many people here who have mastered this concept
and these people just can't be beaten down...and certainly
aren't the ones who'll "resign"....(Gosh...I laugh everytime
I see that word...). I think Sumit "Libertarian" Dahiya
is one recent addition to this gang. (Welcome Sumit !!)
Now, regarding Ekta's rather careless comments
(or was it poorly expressed ?), I'd prefer piggy
backing on other people's posts since I am damn tired
off squeezing myself under this table of mine....(forgive the
out of context comment for those of you who missed some
recent posts). But still let me add a few bits...
Ekta said:
"Apart from above try to refresh the site by giving the good views here sparing the example
of Jat, Jatni, Tau, Hukka, Katda etc , don't make the site of fools here making the silly la
ugh at jat community.... we are educated now. "
Seemed like she knows what she is talking about, Vinod !
I certainly would appreciate it if she could have let us know
which college she went to and what education and degrees she
got that has made her educated enough to be no longer a
fool. Perhaps, the lesser folks here might benefit and no
longer be seen as fools by whosoever she seems to have placed
on her high pedestals...now that she insists that we care
about the opinions of every "Bunty Shunty" she might have
grown up with that caused her to have such complexes.
Ms. Ekta, I do hope you understand that "Tau" is not just some
character in the Humor section on Jatland ! "Tau" is representative
of every elder Jat in our community. It represents that old man
in our family who sheltered us from all harm; the old man who
came to check on us in the midst of the night and asked our mums. "Beti,
bhai ka taap tae na sae eeb? Taap ho tae Daaktur ne le ke
aaon"; that old man who changed three buses to visit us in our
hostels to ensure we were doing fine and had enough "Ghee"; that
old man who smacked his "doga" on our mischeivious arses to make
sure we stayed on track; that old man who pulled out three hundred
rupees from his secret and meagre savings so that we could buy
the "Shiyahee Choos", which we tricked him into believing
was some rather expensive but very important "blotting paper".
That is what I see when I hear the word "Tau" ! When I hear the
word "Hukka" I see this old man majestically sitting in his "Poli"
ever watchful of his family members. That tobacco smell permeates
around my imagination reassuring me of his presence.
.....Well, I hope you are not missing the point. Our "Tau"s,
and his "Hukka", the "Katda" and everything we talk about
on this site, laugh at or enjoy in any way here is the very
backbone of our nature and our strength. It is the very fabric
of our existence. It represents who
we are and where we are coming from. It is the legs and
shoulders that we have stood on and come this far.
How you could possibly have used the word "fools" within
any of this, or even thought that your being "educated"
(and I see absolutely nothing from you that would bolster
such a claim on your part...) should now free you from
your imaginary shackles is just way beyond me.
Learn to acknowledge who you are, where you came from,
and be proud but not arrogant of it. Derive your strength
from it. If you forget your roots, you will end
up being a rudderless boat.
This site allows us to celebrate our roots, to not forget
who we are despite being thousands of miles away from home.
Some of us have grown up and spent most of our lives
outside of India, and yet it is "Tau" and his "Hukka"
that continues to give us strength. And we too are
not lacking in any education....no, not by any stretch
of imagination.
[And like I alluded to before....my comments are
not directed at Ekta or anyone specifically. It merely
represents my feelings and views in response to ideas
seen under post #1.
]
) You know, I think it was best frozen by the moderators, cause I was just beginning to warm up, if you know what I mean jelly bean (What? Come on man, You serious!?!...You mean you did not really like my 'aage se-peeche se' creative kavita's??? 
)