Should Jats Vote to Congress Now after getting OBC Reservation ?

Shall we vote for congress now after getting OBC reservation?

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prashantdabas said:
Bhai... Kitna aadua tai baatua...akk mein bhi jat hu...par there dimag te reservation ke maja te aage soche na paare. Reservation jat samaj ki har ki nisani sa. Haan kuch jat bhaiya ne uppr thavan ki jarurat jarur hai.
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भाई तू क्यों जाटां का विभीषण बणन लाग रह्या सै ??
तेरे बर्गे आदर्श वादी जाटां नै म्हारी कौम की एकता का भट्टा बिठा दिया ।


तन्ने आरक्षण नहीं चाहिए तो मत ले ,कम तै कम औरां नै तो लेण दे ।
घणा ऐ पगड़ी की चिंता है तो हांसी में ठाकर वेदपाल सिंह तंवर नै गैर जाट संगठन खोल राख्या सै,उसका कार्यकर्ता बण जा ,वो भी पगड़ी की घणी ऐ बात करै सै और जाट आरक्षण का विरोधी सै|


रही बात जाटां के उत्थान की , एक काम कर ,बिल गेट्स और अम्बानी की ढाल एक बड़ी कंपनी खोल ले और सारे जाटां नै उसमे नौकरी लगा दे । हम सारे जाट भाई आरक्षण कै लात मार देंगे|


यशपाल मलिक जी ,हवा सिंह सांगवान जी ,खाप पंचायत और बाकि जाट आरक्षण संघर्ष समिति से जुड़े हमारे भाइयों के मेहनत पर पानी फेर दिया तन्ने । इन सब लोगां ने निःस्वार्थ स्वाभाव से जाट कौम की सेवा करने की कोशिश की और तन्ने तो चाले पाड दिए ।
तेरे बर्गे जाट भले ही म्हारी कौम के हो पर थम म्हारे बीच के कोना । थम सो बड्डे आदमी , आदर्शवादी और अति- शिक्षित आदमी । घणा ऐ ज्ञान बटोर लिया तन्ने तो ,यो ज्ञान सेध जागा तन्ने |
 
Aise kaha paani fir ra .... ise keh ke khush ho len de hum arakshan le ke khush hai. kyon naas peetan laag re maje ka. Ib to kuch tym theek sa aaya hai. Adarshwadi ne adarshwadi rehen do , takleef jyada ho to iss desh se caste based reservation khatam karwa do , hum bhi chor denge. yadav, chamar, meena maja le re poora mhare walo ki ghees likdi padi . UP me to reservation in promotion kar diya tha Mayawati ne chamaro ke liye , saale jo saath join kare the afsar ban ja the, Jat salaam thoke tha.
 
Mahri kaum desh te upper ho gi. Is desh me loot mach ri hai, arr ebb ham bhi esma shamil ho liya. Vibhishan kati nahi bhai. Galti hogi desh ki soch le kaum ki nahi. Jisne reservation lena hai le lo bhai. Kal tai hum dusra na gal diya karte, ebb dusre ham ne denge. Mubarak bhai jeet ki. Arr apne hi bhaiya tai baat kari jaya kara, kise aur ki sath judne jarurat nahi hai. Kuch apne log tai kam tai kam samjhe ge.
 
prashantdabas said:
Mahri kaum desh te upper ho gi. Is desh me loot mach ri hai, arr ebb ham bhi esma shamil ho liya. Vibhishan kati nahi bhai. Galti hogi desh ki soch le kaum ki nahi. Jisne reservation lena hai le lo bhai. Kal tai hum dusra na gal diya karte, ebb dusre ham ne denge. Mubarak bhai jeet ki. Arr apne hi bhaiya tai baat kari jaya kara, kise aur ki sath judne jarurat nahi hai. Kuch apne log tai kam tai kam samjhe ge.
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Tanne ke lage se .... Internet pai baithkar paanch aangli marke tu Caste based reservation hatva dega ??
Nu koni hate yo aarakshan ..

Rajasthan mein 1999 mein Jatan ne aarakshan mila ur 14 saal mein hi 150 tai upar Jat IAS/IPS officer ban gaye ... Pehla mushkil tai ek aadha bana karta ...
Tanne to khush hona chahiye .. Baki states ke Jat bhi ib padh-likhkar aage badh javenge ..

Ek baat aur ... Jat aarakshan ... Naukri lene aur educational institutes mein admission ki guarantee nahi hai ... Yeh to bas Catalyst hai ..
Mehnat to OBC quota mein bhi karni padegi ... Ghar baithe baithe benefit nahi milega ..
Saare Jat Delhi mein nahi rehte ... Door Gaon-gohand mein rehte hai ...Awareness kam hai unme ... Isliye mehnat ke bawjood time par dhang ki naukri nahi le paate ..

OBC quota will help to increase our representation in high level jobs and quality educational institutes ..
It is meant only for non-creamy layer Jats who can't afford quality education and have limited resources..
Intelligent Jats will continue to work hard and help their fellow poor Jat brothers to progress ..

My humble request to you .."Please maintain Jat Unity."
 
Ek din tai bhai hatega jarur. Internet to apne bhaiyo se baat karne ka jariya hai. Jat unity is maintained, I just differ in opinion and perspective and put country before cast.
 
Prashant,
Give due credit to those who have worked hard to get reservation for our future generation. May be you dont need it but there are many who would benefit from it. Aap isliye desh ki soch rahe ho kyunki aap ka khud ka future secure hai but everyone is not lucky like you. Jaats bhi desh ka part hai, so why are you so jealous.. Itne jale bhune kyu baithe ho. Most of the jaats are happy except few like you who are always finding fault.
 
Please don't jump on conclusions about me. I am working for making a future for me without reservation like many others among us have done. We needed to work for removing caste based reservation. Alas, we have not done that. We cried for some time got our share and are happy with it like a small kid. you know most us will agree to remove jats from the list of OBC if other castes are also removed. So, who is jealous. People have called me by several names in previous posts, few more on the way but nobody really discusses. All are happy with the benefits reservation bring. I am happy for those who needed reservation and got it but we as a caste don't deserve it. Please give a thought to the criteria setup by mandal commission for declaring a caste as OBC.

SOCIAL



  1. Classes considered as socially backward by others.
  2. Classes which mainly depend on manual labour for their livelihood.
  3. Classes where at least 25 per cent females and 10 per cent males above the state average get married at an age below 17 years in rural areas and at least 10 per cent females and 5 per cent males do so in urban areas.
  4. Classes where participation of females in work is at least 25 per cent above the state average.

Educational


  1. Classes where the number of children in the age group of 5–15 years who never attended school is at least 25 percent above the state average.
  2. Classes where the rate of student drop-out in the age group of 5–15 years is at least 25 percent above the state average.
  3. Classes amongst whom the proportion of matriculates is at least 25 per cent below the state average.

Economic


  1. Classes where the average value of family assets is at least 25 per cent below the state average.
  2. Classes where the number of families living in kuccha houses is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
  3. Classes where the source of drinking water is beyond half kilometer for more than 50 per cent of the households.
  4. Classes where the number of households having taken consumption loans is at least 25 per cent above the state average.
 
prashantdabas said:
Another thing which we can do to be different from the rest of the OBC is to voluntarily give a time frame for stepwise removal of reservation for jats.
Say 10-20 years. What do you feel is that enough to bring the downtrodden jats on an equal platform?
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Good suggestion but ONLY IF other OBCs as well are ready for the same. Do you think they would ?
 
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Prashant- we may think we are too educated to not to care for reservation but my friend you are wrong. Read what happened with me personally.


After 12th I gave my exam for NIFT for 4 year garment manufacturing degree, or textile engineering. My all India rank was 181 and there were 180 seats for the course across India. I had another friend whose rank was 431 and she was from reserved category. When I went for to see the results I was nothing but SHOCKED to see I was not even in the waiting list where as my friend were among top 30 and got the choice of her center.

Now tell me, was I less deserving from her? What had I done not to get the seat?


P.S. I did get the seat in the end as people opted out but got Chennai as a center, not my choice and dropped out of the college with in a week.
 
Thats exactly we are planning to do to others now. How will we be more deserving then the rest in the flock. The solution to this is reservation only for economically weak and slowly phasing it out. The number of economically weak have to reduce sequentially.
 
No, have you studied economics? Everything in economics rely on 'in a perfect world' - and you are also talking of the same. IF and THEN are not an option..
 
RajatSingh said:
Jats must vote for congress, no party gave us so much favor ever before... different parties used to lie one after another.....we must thanks mr b.s Hooda, Ch Ajit Singh for all lobbying work to get this reservation.....
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Even then Ch Satyapal Singh Ex Mumbai Commissioner may give tuff fight in Baghpat, Its 2014 , Lot of mindset changed now, School kids are on social media , people discussing all issues, I don't think Jat reservation will give any benefit to Ajit Singh in West UP.
 
I feel ashamed after reading all above comment but did we really thankful of our social leaders community members who really did so much hard work agitated and led life on railway track in north India.
Shame on us really.
Did Single member here say single word about these social leaders ?
 
It looks from this discussion & arguments done by many that these elections are not general elections rather it is Haryana Vidhan Sabha election. The Haryana leaders from various political parties will become PM. The reservation was under OBC was the only issue for Jats distributed in many states geographically. We Jats are not affected with price hike, corruption, nepotism, scams, riots, minority appeasement, nation's external/internal affairs, terrorism etc. This inclusion of Jats in OBC will solve all the problems of Jats as well as of India as a country. Now Pakistan & China will be scared , Bangladeshis will not infiltrate, US will bow down, Gandhi family will come on path of Mahatma Gandhi, we will start getting 24*7 electricity in UP for our farms, education will become free, ministers will not do corruption as we are in OBC now.

Lets vote for CONGRESS.
 
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