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Topic of today's Satayamev Jayate... was again intercast marriage... and again...
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drrajpalsingh
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raka ji jaat hindu nahi hai to phir kaun se dharam ke hai?n hindu dharam nahi mannnaa chahiye to phir kaun sa dharam hai jo jaato ke liye perfect rahega?
'DHARMA' or 'Religion' is a very emotive and individual issue and if left out of the discussion at least under the present state of affairs, it would be better for all.
If we indulge in advising the Jat or any other person, then our role would be contrueced to be infringement of the fundamental and natural rights of such person.
Every one knows Jats adhere to various religions and faiths and are not exclusively bound to Hinduism. But we must remember Jat due to his kinship is a Jat, irrespective of his religious leanings.
Dr saheb, with due permission, I would like to submit that Dharma or Religion is a social matter, not individual, It has become emotive due to brain washing by very selfish contractors of religion who HAVE MADE IT A BIG BUSINESS TO enjoy all three W W W Due to lack of education and certain other weaknesses of human being, rest your views are agreed
drrajpalsingh
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Dr saheb, with due permission, I would like to submit that Dharma or Religion is a social matter, not individual, It has become emotive due to brain washing by very selfish contractors of religion who HAVE MADE IT A BIG BUSINESS TO enjoy all three W W W Due to lack of education and certain other weaknesses of human being, rest your views are agreed
Friend,
In its wider dimension it is also a SOCIAL ORDER. For degradation, illiteracy has been a great factor.
Regards
Friend,
In its wider dimension it is also a SOCIAL ORDER. For degradation, illiteracy has been a great factor.
Regards
In all dimensions religion is a social order, nothing else, why people get confused because these uneducated pandits, molvies, pasters gyanies etc have mixed spirituality with religion and hence you are also getting confused, Brother, spirituality is a subject which deals with the long journey of the soul and not the religion, regards
Few facts we must understand and Few questions we must answer:
1. Panchayat has no judicial power so what will happen in case there is a conflict between law and panchayat?
2. Not all Jats have (fall under) Khaps. Can khap make decisions for them?
3. Leaving hinduism and joining other religions wont resolve the same gotra or bhaichara type of marriages.
4. Only feasible way is if HMA can get amemded then only at least same gotra marriages can be avoided to a larger extent.
We must find answers to the questions raised as some were valid questions even though their intention was something else.
1. Panchayat has no judicial power so what will happen in case there is a conflict between law and panchayat?
2. Not all Jats have (fall under) Khaps. Can khap make decisions for them?
3. Leaving hinduism and joining other religions wont resolve the same gotra or bhaichara type of marriages.
4. Only feasible way is if HMA can get amemded then only at least same gotra marriages can be avoided to a larger extent.
We must find answers to the questions raised as some were valid questions even though their intention was something else.
drrajpalsingh
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In all dimensions religion is a social order, nothing else, why people get confused because these uneducated pandits, molvies, pasters gyanies etc have mixed spirituality with religion and hence you are also getting confused, Brother, spirituality is a subject which deals with the long journey of the soul and not the religion, regards
Dear Friend,
Presently, I have neither capacity nor time nor intention to indulge in deep spiritual and philosophical issues. Therefore, I opt out of discussion on it.
Thanks.
Dear Friend,
Presently, I have neither capacity nor time nor intention to indulge in deep spiritual and philosophical issues. Therefore, I opt out of discussion on it.
Thanks.
Mr Rajpal, you are always welcomed, when ever you have capacity, time and intention, thanks
drrajpalsingh
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Thank you Sir for your kind permission!!!Mr Rajpal, you are always welcomed, when ever you have capacity, time and intention, thanks
Khaps meet to decide action against Aamir Khan
Khap panchayats of Haryana, which have already warned Bollywood actor Aamir Khan against portraying them in 'poor light' and demanded his show Satyamev Jayte be taken off air, have now summoned a meeting of all village khaps of the state.
The Sarv Khap Panchayat has been called to decide the course of action to be taken against the film star and respond to his attempts of maligning the Khaps and intruding into the social structure of villages in Haryana, said Randhir Singh, Head of Meham Chaubisi Panchayat, on whose invitation the meeting has been called
See more at http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...n-against-Aamir-Khan/articleshow/14070667.cms
Khap panchayats of Haryana, which have already warned Bollywood actor Aamir Khan against portraying them in 'poor light' and demanded his show Satyamev Jayte be taken off air, have now summoned a meeting of all village khaps of the state.
The Sarv Khap Panchayat has been called to decide the course of action to be taken against the film star and respond to his attempts of maligning the Khaps and intruding into the social structure of villages in Haryana, said Randhir Singh, Head of Meham Chaubisi Panchayat, on whose invitation the meeting has been called
See more at http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...n-against-Aamir-Khan/articleshow/14070667.cms
See how people have reacted to Amir Khan -
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tion-against-Aamir-Khan/opinions/14070667.cms
I quote one Amit (delhi)
"I think we should remove the people of haryana from india..they are illitrate,unmannerd even dont know how to talk.....then we will change the name of haryana into bihar..now bihar is developing very fast..they know how to talk,they always talk in respectable way...sex ratio of haryana is also worst...they kill baby girl.."
It is unfortunate educated people have westernized and think that all Jats be removed from India.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tion-against-Aamir-Khan/opinions/14070667.cms
I quote one Amit (delhi)
"I think we should remove the people of haryana from india..they are illitrate,unmannerd even dont know how to talk.....then we will change the name of haryana into bihar..now bihar is developing very fast..they know how to talk,they always talk in respectable way...sex ratio of haryana is also worst...they kill baby girl.."
It is unfortunate educated people have westernized and think that all Jats be removed from India.
drrajpalsingh
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See how people have reacted to Amir Khan -
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tion-against-Aamir-Khan/opinions/14070667.cms
I quote one Amit (delhi)
"I think we should remove the people of haryana from india..they are illitrate,unmannerd even dont know how to talk.....then we will change the name of haryana into bihar..now bihar is developing very fast..they know how to talk,they always talk in respectable way...sex ratio of haryana is also worst...they kill baby girl.."
It is unfortunate educated people have westernized and think that all Jats be removed from India.
Kave ke chahne se uoont nahin marate!!!
The post points to prejudice and out burst of frustration and jealousy against march forward of Jats in every field.
The reply to such posts must be proper presentation of factual data on the issues raised.
It must also be told that the Jats are not the sole residents of any state and therefore, the blame for wrong doings of all must be shared by other communities as well and not to be put on the face of the Jats only.
Agreed, if any one commits the crime of killing someone he/she should be brought to justice but single instances must not be used to blame all the members of that community. No one community can live or act in isolation. Therefore, need of over all introspection and improvement of the social milieu of the country as a whole is desirable.
Regards
rekhasmriti
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Super Awesome !
rekhasmriti
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To all Sirs ,
Before i say something , lemme tell u all about my knowledge-
kuch log zero hote hai- but mei regarding this Khap wala matter - negative mei hoon.
U all sirs may be right- bas ek bat nahi samjh aa rahi
Poori duniya against hai - jo hua uske-
bas Hum Jaat jhanda lekar khade hai - aisee ki taisee " It was all justified - sahi hua jo hua"
Ab ya toh yeh humari Zidd hai - galat bhi hai toh Zidd hai - hum hi sahi hai- bhad mei gayee duniya
I always believe - agar koi sahi hota hai - toh woh sabko convince kar leta hai
agar nahi kar pata - toh Ek : Woh galat hai
doosra- low confidence
teesra- meine theka le rakha hai duniya ko convince karne ka ?
Hum kis category mei hai ?????????????
Regards,
Smriti
Before i say something , lemme tell u all about my knowledge-
kuch log zero hote hai- but mei regarding this Khap wala matter - negative mei hoon.
U all sirs may be right- bas ek bat nahi samjh aa rahi
Poori duniya against hai - jo hua uske-
bas Hum Jaat jhanda lekar khade hai - aisee ki taisee " It was all justified - sahi hua jo hua"
Ab ya toh yeh humari Zidd hai - galat bhi hai toh Zidd hai - hum hi sahi hai- bhad mei gayee duniya
I always believe - agar koi sahi hota hai - toh woh sabko convince kar leta hai
agar nahi kar pata - toh Ek : Woh galat hai
doosra- low confidence
teesra- meine theka le rakha hai duniya ko convince karne ka ?
Hum kis category mei hai ?????????????
Regards,
Smriti
Sir, these are called "internet trolls". We also have some similar characters on JL too :livid:. You will find such trolls commonly on youtube or other popular internet forums hurling the choicest of abuses at one another. Ignore karn me faayda hai isse-2 ne . kisse jat ke hatthey chadh gya hoga koye refugee/baniya hoga :stupid:See how people have reacted to Amir Khan -
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...tion-against-Aamir-Khan/opinions/14070667.cms
I quote one Amit (delhi)
"I think we should remove the people of haryana from india..they are illitrate,unmannerd even dont know how to talk.....then we will change the name of haryana into bihar..now bihar is developing very fast..they know how to talk,they always talk in respectable way...sex ratio of haryana is also worst...they kill baby girl.."
It is unfortunate educated people have westernized and think that all Jats be removed from India.
prashantacmet
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Poori duniya against hai - jo hua uske-
kya hua aur poori duniya kiske against hai...ek to aap kah rahi ho ki main negative main huin knowledge ke baare main..aur aapko yeh bhi pata hai ki ppoori duniya khilaf hai ..samajh nahi aayi baat....jara samjhaoo aap..dekhe aap main kitna samjhi hai
bas Hum Jaat jhanda lekar khade hai - aisee ki taisee " It was all justified - sahi hua jo hua"
kya sahi hua ..aur konsa sa jhanda liye khade hai...paheliyan mat bujhaye..jaato ko diplomatic baatein samajh nahi aati...khol ke batao baat
Ab ya toh yeh humari Zidd hai - galat bhi hai toh Zidd hai - hum hi sahi hai- bhad mei gayee duniya
I always believe - agar koi sahi hota hai - toh woh sabko convince kar leta hai
agar nahi kar pata - toh Ek : Woh galat hai
doosra- low confidence
teesra- meine theka le rakha hai duniya ko convince karne ka ?
Hum kis category mei hai ?????????????
Regards,
Smriti
itna confusion theek nahi hai..aur itna emotional hona bhi theek nahi..aur aapki baatein kitabi hai unka jameeni haqiiqat se koi vaasta nahi hai......
sanjeev1984
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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-her-live-in-partner/articleshow/14167753.cms
ain't this case of honor killing???? thanks to mr amir khan and his followers, as they have not held KHAPs respinsible for this case...
ain't this case of honor killing???? thanks to mr amir khan and his followers, as they have not held KHAPs respinsible for this case...
rekhasmriti
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Sir g ,
Simple si bat hai -
honor killing n all that- bas hum defend kar rahe hai-
as per rest of world it is unfair
see the ratio sir -
Knowledge kam hai - coz i m not aware of typical Jat customs - khap systems n all that
u may find it funny- Khap - was the word i heard first in news-
then i asked my family- yeh khap kya cheez hai
then i got its all definiation
Koi confusion nahi hai mujhe - i m just talking logic
kitabi batein meri???????????
sir g- kitab - n rituals- n customs toh khap types follow kar rahe hai
-
so help me in understanding what zameeni haqeeqat u r talking about ?????????
yeah i agree - i did get carried away-
but i guess banta hai -
sir poori duniya - log hum jaton - ko pehle nahi jante the-
its ok
but ab bahut bure angle se jante hai- coz of this honor killing n all
aapne yeh toh suna hi hoga
1000 ache kam null n void ho jate hai just 1 bure kam ke karan
same here- kissi ne humari achi batein nahi dekhi
bus ek buri bat kya aayee samne- we are now .........
Please sir - no offence
Regards,
Simple si bat hai -
honor killing n all that- bas hum defend kar rahe hai-
as per rest of world it is unfair
see the ratio sir -
Knowledge kam hai - coz i m not aware of typical Jat customs - khap systems n all that
u may find it funny- Khap - was the word i heard first in news-
then i asked my family- yeh khap kya cheez hai
then i got its all definiation
Koi confusion nahi hai mujhe - i m just talking logic
kitabi batein meri???????????
sir g- kitab - n rituals- n customs toh khap types follow kar rahe hai
-
so help me in understanding what zameeni haqeeqat u r talking about ?????????
yeah i agree - i did get carried away-
but i guess banta hai -
sir poori duniya - log hum jaton - ko pehle nahi jante the-
its ok
but ab bahut bure angle se jante hai- coz of this honor killing n all
aapne yeh toh suna hi hoga
1000 ache kam null n void ho jate hai just 1 bure kam ke karan
same here- kissi ne humari achi batein nahi dekhi
bus ek buri bat kya aayee samne- we are now .........
Please sir - no offence
Regards,
kya hua aur poori duniya kiske against hai...ek to aap kah rahi ho ki main negative main huin knowledge ke baare main..aur aapko yeh bhi pata hai ki ppoori duniya khilaf hai ..samajh nahi aayi baat....jara samjhaoo aap..dekhe aap main kitna samjhi hai
kya sahi hua ..aur konsa sa jhanda liye khade hai...paheliyan mat bujhaye..jaato ko diplomatic baatein samajh nahi aati...khol ke batao baat
itna confusion theek nahi hai..aur itna emotional hona bhi theek nahi..aur aapki baatein kitabi hai unka jameeni haqiiqat se koi vaasta nahi hai......
Khaps meet to decide action against Aamir Khan
Khap panchayats of Haryana, which have already warned Bollywood actor Aamir Khan against portraying them in 'poor light' and demanded his show Satyamev Jayte be taken off air, have now summoned a meeting of all village khaps of the state. The Sarv Khap Panchayat has been called to decide the course of action to be taken against the film star and respond to his attempts of maligning the Khaps and intruding into the social structure of villages in Haryana, said Randhir Singh, Head of Meham Chaubisi Panchayat, on whose invitation the meeting has been called See more at http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...n-against-Aamir-Khan/articleshow/14070667.cms
Good to Know !!
Gentlemen, We Must Stand-Up & Speak-Up !! The Path May Be Enlightened by These Gentlemen !!
Also, I Genuinely Hope That These Gentlemen Aren't Just Buzzing Around But Would Actually Stand-Up & Speak-Up !!
cutejaatsandeep
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a mulla jat is not a jat.....if they do thn plz lemme know how many u know?and wat they hav done good for jat community?'DHARMA' or 'Religion' is a very emotive and individual issue and if left out of the discussion at least under the present state of affairs, it would be better for all.
If we indulge in advising the Jat or any other person, then our role would be contrueced to be infringement of the fundamental and natural rights of such person.
Every one knows Jats adhere to various religions and faiths and are not exclusively bound to Hinduism. But we must remember Jat due to his kinship is a Jat, irrespective of his religious leanings.
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