Why spurt in rape cases?

I am just wondering by what standards you chose to demean India so badly and rudely and chose to stay in Australia which is worst when it comes to crime against women? Please enlighten
friend, using derogatory words for a nation isn't a gud thing. no nation is bad. good bad people r everywhere.
 
my dear friend u ve nt responded to my previous posts n explanations. Comparing India with west is like comparing apples n oranges. dear accept d realty.

You are right ankur but let me explain why these stats are not completely wrong.

Even if I take that 70% of Indian are in rural India where is such cases go unreported and add more 70% to existing numbers, still the number is multifold lesser than Aus or US or UK.
 
You are right ankur but let me explain why these stats are not completely wrong.

Even if I take that 70% of Indian are in rural India where is such cases go unreported and add more 70% to existing numbers, still the number is multifold lesser than Aus or US or UK.
Dear, its nt 70 percent, its 90 percent overall. also consider western living style n feedom and literacy.
 
my dear friend u ve nt responded to my previous posts n explanations. Comparing India with west is like comparing apples n oranges. dear accept d realty.
Neither all cases of rape are reported in west nor all reported cases of rape in India are genuine, so people have to rely upon statistics for comparison. I think that number of gang-rapes or rapes with minor can give batter idea. As far as case of Assange is considered, American establishment is involved in that otherwise prosecution is not so easy. Same can can be filled in India too for political revenge.
 
Neither all cases of rape are reported in west nor all reported cases of rape in India are genuine, so people have to rely upon statistics for comparison. I think that number of gang-rapes or rapes with minor can give batter idea. As far as case of Assange is considered, American establishment is involved in that otherwise prosecution is not so easy. Same can can be filled in India too for political revenge.
MR BANA; but its not worse comparing India. as far assange is concerned, Swedish laws r more strict around defining rape, even after consent, a woman can make claims. in our laws, its not a case. so without any provision in law u can;t prosecute anyone my friend.
 
MR BANA; but its not worse comparing India. as far assange is concerned, Swedish laws r more strict around defining rape, even after consent, a woman can make claims. in our laws, its not a case. so without any provision in law u can;t prosecute anyone my friend.
As far as Assange is concerned, case is ridiculous and US establishment is clearly involved. This is not first time when US establishment indulged in such activities.
Another European country UK :
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ly-low-conviction-rates-revealed-8446058.html
Conviction rate is 1% there.
 
As far as Assange is concerned, case is ridiculous and US establishment is clearly involved. This is not first time when US establishment indulged in such activities.
Another European country UK :
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ly-low-conviction-rates-revealed-8446058.html
Conviction rate is 1% there.
Mr. Bana; Case is not ridiculous. As I said in my previous post, without a provision in law, you cannot prosecute anyone. If you read the allegations on Assange, they make sense as per Swedish Laws because they have provisions in law. Whereas our laws are old British legacy. We wake up when something happens. othrwz we keep on sleeping all the time. Very late, we wake after Delhi rape case and that only because that incident got a nation wide/world wide media attention. Otherwise, brutal things happen in India all the time but not all of them get the attention from Media. As far as Assange is concerned, I am copying few lines from an article:

"Sweden, like many countries, counts sex with an unconsenting but sleeping woman (regardless of prior relations) as rape: that is at issue in Mr Assange’s case."
 
If we get life only once, then what's wrong in it to go for maximum pleasure. Able people can buy the best women, but what about the 'have nots'. They will try to grab forcefully. Please someone prove to me also that we get life only once, I will also try to enjoy some 15-16 year old pieces howsoever. Mostly people say they are sure deeds matter nothing. If you do good deeds then no avail, result of life will be same. If you do bad deeds, then too result of life will be same.
 
If we get life only once, then what's wrong in it to go for maximum pleasure. Able people can buy the best women, but what about the 'have nots'. They will try to grab forcefully. Please someone prove to me also that we get life only once, I will also try to enjoy some 15-16 year old pieces howsoever. Mostly people say they are sure deeds matter nothing. If you do good deeds then no avail, result of life will be same. If you do bad deeds, then too result of life will be same.

Upender Ji, have you really written this? Did you mean it or it was just that ...may be fingers were out of control?
 
अधिकतर पोस्ट पढ़ने के बाद ऐसा लग रहा है की यहाँ पर एक समझ बनी है कि लोअर क्लास के साथ समस्या है उसे सुधारने/सुधरने की जरूरत है। ऐसा भी लग रहा है कि क्लास/वर्ग की अवधारणा पर कई लोगों ने काफी आध्यान भी किया हुआ है, विशेषकर लोअर क्लास पर; इनको पढ़कर कुछ सवाल मन मे आए है (गोयत जी, अरविंद जी और एनसे सहमत होने वाले तमाम लोग अपनी राय दे सकते है )
1 क्या वर्ग आधारित मानसिक विश्लेषण (जैसा कि कुछ पोस्ट्स मे जीकर किया गया है ), वह इस समस्या के लिए सबसे उपयुक्त कारक है??
2 क्या वर्ग मानसिकता इतनी सिंपल है?
3 लोअर क्लास की उत्तेजना तो आपने बताई, मिडिल क्लास और इलाइट क्लास की उत्तेजना पर भी थोड़ा प्रकाश डालना जरूरी है, वह कैसे भिन्न होती है?
4 पोस्ट संख्या 20 मे क्वालिटी की बात की गयी है,इससे क्या तात्पर्य है आपका?(पढ़ने वालों ने भी क्या मीनिंग लिया है?)
5 चलती कार और ऑटो आदि मे रेप करने वाले को क्या पूरा यकीन होता है की वो न पकड़ा जाएगा और न बदनामी फ़क्टर उसपर काम करेगा?
5 जाट लैंड प्रयोग करने वाले अधिकतर व्यक्ति किस वर्ग मे आते है??


एक अन्य बात और यह पोस्ट कोई अपने पर व्यक्तिगत रूप से कि गयी टिप्पणी के रूप मे न ले, केवल जिज्ञासा स्वरूप उठे सवालों के रूप मे लिया जाए, और स्वस्थ तरीके से उत्तर किया जाए, अगर आप उत्तर देना चाहते है तो॥
 
Lemme try to ans some as per my understanding :

1 क्या वर्ग आधारित मानसिक विश्लेषण (जैसा कि कुछ पोस्ट्स मे जीकर किया गया है ), वह इस समस्या के लिए सबसे उपयुक्त कारक है??

This problem can not be put across on the basis on class . However reason why this so called lower class was mentioned coz in many of recent cases they were the culprits . But that does not mean in other classes such crimes does not happen may not get reported out of family n society pressure .
This is the fact lower class is more frustrated than any other frustration lead to anger n so on . We all get this advice from elder ones - never to get into argument with these lower strata kinda people .
Though this class is not the only reason .

2 क्या वर्ग मानसिकता इतनी सिंपल है?
Can not say .

3 लोअर क्लास की उत्तेजना तो आपने बताई, मिडिल क्लास और इलाइट क्लास की उत्तेजना पर भी थोड़ा प्रकाश डालना जरूरी है, वह कैसे भिन्न होती है?
Other classes have more means , easy access to much stuff so as per my understanding it would be different

4 पोस्ट संख्या 20 मे क्वालिटी की बात की गयी है,इससे क्या तात्पर्य है आपका?(पढ़ने वालों ने भी क्या मीनिंग लिया है?)
I could not find " Quality " thing in post 20 . Though in a way I agree with that post 2


5 चलती कार और ऑटो आदि मे रेप करने वाले को क्या पूरा यकीन होता है की वो न पकड़ा जाएगा और न बदनामी फ़क्टर उसपर काम करेगा?

Auto ka not much clue , but there were incidents happend in GGN crime happened in Audi or BMW i guess . Khabar zaroor aaye but koi pakda gaya ya nahi woh nahi pata .
If I m not wrong , for somebody driving SUV - they know they would get away with something like this so who cares . For Auto walas , no body give a damn about their lives
so agar nam uchala bhi toh kya .

5 जाट लैंड प्रयोग करने वाले अधिकतर व्यक्ति किस वर्ग मे आते है??
My guess middle , coz lower may not have such means ------upper not aware of any basic issues of society . Moreover it is always middle class who get worried , cribs as they think about future , system. They are the only one who understands basic needs .
On lighter note : they talk too much they know kuch hona jana hai nahi , bolkar apni bhadas toh nikal lo kam se kam
 
अधिकतर पोस्ट पढ़ने के बाद ऐसा लग रहा है की यहाँ पर एक समझ बनी है कि लोअर क्लास के साथ समस्या है उसे सुधारने/सुधरने की जरूरत है।

पता नहीं ये सिर्फ गरीबो की समस्या है या नहीं पर अंग्रेजी में एक कहावत है - Money is honey, my little sunny.... a rich man's joke is always funny - तात्पर्य अमीरों मैं कमी हो या ना हो, पैसे की आड़ मैं छुप जाती है.. अमीरों के किलो की दीवारे ऊंची होती है
 
Half of all rape victims in America are men, and 80% of the people who rape men are women.(OMGfact)
I am not sure if Indian men would be disappointed to hear this...
 
Nahi yeh nahi ho sakta !

Yeh sunne se pehle .............blah blah blah blah

Agar woh 80% men chilla chilla kar bhi yeh kahe toh " yeh zalim zamana " nahi manne wala


PS : Please ignore my post , I just could not stop laughing on same .



Half of all rape victims in America are men, and 80% of the people who rape men are women.(OMGfact)
I am not sure if Indian men would be disappointed to hear this...
 
Half of all rape victims in America are men, and 80% of the people who rape men are women.(OMGfact)
I am not sure if Indian men would be disappointed to hear this...
How can this be true ?
1 out of every 6 American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape in her lifetime (14.8% completed rape; 2.8% attempted rape).[SUP]1
[/SUP]About 3% of American men — or 1 in 33 — have experienced an attempted or completed rape in their lifetime.[SUP]1
[/SUP]http://www.rainn.org/get-information/statistics/sexual-assault-victims
Though this link confirms your statement
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women
 
Engineering students design lingerie to protect women from sexual attacks

[video]http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/engineering-students-design-lingerie-to-protect-women-from-sexual-attacks-363211?pfrom=home-topstories[/video]
 
1 क्या वर्ग आधारित मानसिक विश्लेषण (जैसा कि कुछ पोस्ट्स मे जीकर किया गया है ), वह इस समस्या के लिए सबसे उपयुक्त कारक है??
I think that some of brutal gang-rape may represent contempt in a section of lower classes toward extravagant upper classes. Rapid economic growth in India is accompanied by increasing socio-economic disparities. People of upper-middle strata are finding new avenues of progress, on the contrary destitution of lower class is increasing. Cultural factors(dresses,etc) sharpen this existing divide. Human nature can't be termed as black(evil) or white(pure) but different shades of gray. So it's not surprising that a section of lower strata migrants are indulging in brutal rapes, because of frustration/jealousy/lust/anger caused by vulgar display of wealth and beauty. In some cases, victim may be poor but she may appear as upper-middle strata because of dress.
2 क्या वर्ग मानसिकता इतनी सिंपल है?
No, it's not that simple but still a continuous interaction between people of similar socio-economic condition gives rise to a distinctive culture and perception toward other group/class/thing/individuals. When a lot of upper strata people look down upon lower strata people and see them with contempt, it causes counter-contempt in lower strata.
3 लोअर क्लास की उत्तेजना तो आपने बताई, मिडिल क्लास और इलाइट क्लास की उत्तेजना पर भी थोड़ा प्रकाश डालना जरूरी है, वह कैसे भिन्न होती है?
I think that different combination of rage,contempt, frustration, deprivation are always factors in rape which is true for upper and middle class too. Many upper strata people also face alienation and frustration. Similarly many lower strata people are satisfied with their lives.

4 पोस्ट संख्या 20 मे क्वालिटी की बात की गयी है,इससे क्या तात्पर्य है आपका?(पढ़ने वालों ने भी क्या मीनिंग लिया है?)
prob. good looking, attractive, younger,etc
5 चलती कार और ऑटो आदि मे रेप करने वाले को क्या पूरा यकीन होता है की वो न पकड़ा जाएगा और न बदनामी फ़क्टर उसपर काम करेगा?
I think that fear of losing reputation may not be strong impediment in urban regions because communication in urban region is largely characterized by limited and superficial interaction and anonymity.
5 जाट लैंड प्रयोग करने वाले अधिकतर व्यक्ति किस वर्ग मे आते है??
Lower-middle to Upper in my opinion.
 
अधिकतर पोस्ट पढ़ने के बाद ऐसा लग रहा है की यहाँ पर एक समझ बनी है कि लोअर क्लास के साथ समस्या है उसे सुधारने/सुधरने की जरूरत है। ऐसा भी लग रहा है कि क्लास/वर्ग की अवधारणा पर कई लोगों ने काफी आध्यान भी किया हुआ है, विशेषकर लोअर क्लास पर; इनको पढ़कर कुछ सवाल मन मे आए है (गोयत जी, अरविंद जी और एनसे सहमत होने वाले तमाम लोग अपनी राय दे सकते है )
1 क्या वर्ग आधारित मानसिक विश्लेषण (जैसा कि कुछ पोस्ट्स मे जीकर किया गया है ), वह इस समस्या के लिए सबसे उपयुक्त कारक है??
2 क्या वर्ग मानसिकता इतनी सिंपल है?
3 लोअर क्लास की उत्तेजना तो आपने बताई, मिडिल क्लास और इलाइट क्लास की उत्तेजना पर भी थोड़ा प्रकाश डालना जरूरी है, वह कैसे भिन्न होती है?
4 पोस्ट संख्या 20 मे क्वालिटी की बात की गयी है,इससे क्या तात्पर्य है आपका?(पढ़ने वालों ने भी क्या मीनिंग लिया है?)
5 चलती कार और ऑटो आदि मे रेप करने वाले को क्या पूरा यकीन होता है की वो न पकड़ा जाएगा और न बदनामी फ़क्टर उसपर काम करेगा?
5 जाट लैंड प्रयोग करने वाले अधिकतर व्यक्ति किस वर्ग मे आते है??


एक अन्य बात और यह पोस्ट कोई अपने पर व्यक्तिगत रूप से कि गयी टिप्पणी के रूप मे न ले, केवल जिज्ञासा स्वरूप उठे सवालों के रूप मे लिया जाए, और स्वस्थ तरीके से उत्तर किया जाए, अगर आप उत्तर देना चाहते है तो॥

chalo class ko ek baar bhul jaao>>> fark rajamandi/majburi aur jabardasti ka hai... aur jabardasti wala rape ban jata hai..

abb rajamandi/majburi kin paristhitiyon me hoti hai (promotion, laalch:eg geetika sharma case). aur jabardasti kin paristhitiyon me, iska vishleshan me aap pe chhod ta hu..

baaki meri posts ko ek bar fir se samjho (padho nahi sirf), apke sawalo ke jawab unhi me the..
 
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