12 points by MahaPanchayat - How much you agree?

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vpsingh said:
Vijay, the real heores of our community are those toiling Jats who are living in villages, sweating and working it out in the fields for their survival, without having any facility of internet gossip. They are grappling with their own priorities and are least interested in the Khap politics. I doubt majority of them even knew the names of their Khap leaders and even the nuances of HMA until recently. It is only we, the paper tigers, who are batting for them, unsolicited. These poor farmers need our support and guidance to come out of the quagmire of deprivation. They need better education for their children, better houses, more water in the canals, modernization of canals, drainage facilities, dispensaries, roads, anti-dowry movement etc.
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What I have seen is that the panchayats and khaps are more prevalent and significant in villages. The court-kachari route is the last resort one takes in the villages as it is regarded more as a punishment then justice - thanks to our advocates and the justice system.
 
aree bhaayeeyo kathe-kathe or kyan kyan ko virodh karogaa same gotraa byaah ko yaa samelengik byah ko.......yhee to hai dosto 21s vee shadee kaa bharaat.............


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kapil.dalal said:
I doubt they even think of the law. Don't see how their mind would even reach that stage. The shame factor within the family and society is too big to reach the serious consideration stage. Just think about it. If it reaches the serious consideration stage, is the law that big a deal? There are options within the law- get converted and then the hindu marriage act is not applicable on you. There are mavericks who have done that, eg. Chand.
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Kapil, i think you missed the point here. 'Shame factor' is also applicable in same-village marriage but couple still go ahead with it. 'Social-stigma and humiliation of family' is there in same-gotra marriage too, yet we have such cases. Why not then marriages in real 'cousins'??
If we have some 'krantikaris' for whom the love for each-other is far important than then any consequence of such an alliance, then why such 'krantikaris' are limited only to intra-village/intra-gotra marriages? A 'blind love' can happen in cousins too (if 'blind love' really overlook the social norms or consequences)!!

Regarding knowledge of law among such couples: I again disagree here; after getting married, first thing such couples do, is to approach court and asking for Police protection. Hard to imagine that they are oblivious to law!! Any thought?
 
Arvindc said:
What I have seen is that the panchayats and khaps are more prevalent and significant in villages. The court-kachari route is the last resort one takes in the villages as it is regarded more as a punishment then justice - thanks to our advocates and the justice system.
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The trend has got reversed with passage of time. Now 90% of the cases take the court-way.
 
sunillathwal said:
Regarding knowledge of law among such couples: I again disagree here; after getting married, first thing such couples do, is to approach court and asking for Police protection. Hard to imagine that they are oblivious to law!! Any thought?
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Its we read that they do such things first, who knows after how many threats they seek police protection.

Its not an instant process that they met and decided to marry within a day. At first they talk about it and after knowing the reaction of the people they go for the police protection. Do you expect from them to become easy prey for the Honor Killers ?
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
I am sorry to quote a senior member but i don't think you know anything about jat community. You can be a khap leader if you have ability to speak truth infront of thousands of people. People here are doubting Khaps until now have anyone heard about them or any khap leader came to them asking for any leader?
If they are not recognised why these leader support them Jindal is a baniya and cancelled his flight on their one call? Reason is simple this is society THE JAT SOCIETY. You are not the society infact you are away from your roots.This is not something about Chautalas or Hoodas this is something big this is about survival of jats. Muslims have their own rules South Indians given exception in constitution then why jats were not given any special clause. Constitution have many clauses seprately for many states nad many castes. Reason is that mostly jats were illitrate and don't care about these type of things and they have never thougt that this society would become so much polluted that they have to ask govt. to take care of them.Jats being farmer was not dependent on anyone and other people like Baniya Nai kumhar etc. were dependent on him for their livelyhood. This created a sense of proud in him and can be found in his DNA now.But time has changed shortage of lands lack of education sent jat on backfoot where he is fighting for his own identity. Even the DNA of jat become polluted people don't like to be called jats.
Baaki so bato ki ek baat 50 aadmi saare jato ka bhavisya tay nahi kar sakte Fortune 500 mein register Jindal jab apni flight cancel karke jab jato ke peeche khada ho gaya to 15-15 hazar ki naukri karne wale aur ye kehne wale ki aisa nahi hoga ki baat mein kitna dam ho sakta hai. Itihas gavah hai jat ne jab bhi sir uthaya to uske aage tikne wala koi nahi tha aur na hi hoga. Aur umeed hai ki hamara DNA aur jyada pollute nahi hoga. Agli mahapanchayat ka intezar hai.

Sorry Jatlanders if anyone's sentiments got hurt.
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Rakesh, nothing to be sorry about. I think you have a divine right to make personal remarks about others and challenge their knowledge about society, social status as well as financial soundness in terms of salary etc. I am speechless.
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
But time has changed shortage of lands lack of education sent jat on backfoot where he is fighting for his own identity. Even the DNA of jat become polluted people don't like to be called jats.
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If people feel so ashamed to be known as Jats they would never regeistered themselves here. It is not necessory that they have to prove themselves to the specific point of views of one person to get authenticated as Jats.

rakeshsehrawat said:
Baaki so bato ki ek baat 50 aadmi saare jato ka bhavisya tay nahi kar sakte Fortune 500 mein register Jindal jab apni flight cancel karke jab jato ke peeche khada ho gaya to 15-15 hazar ki naukri karne wale aur ye kehne wale ki aisa nahi hoga ki baat mein kitna dam ho sakta hai. Itihas gavah hai jat ne jab bhi sir uthaya to uske aage tikne wala koi nahi tha aur na hi hoga. Aur umeed hai ki hamara DNA aur jyada pollute nahi hoga. Agli mahapanchayat ka intezar hai.
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So, Khaps needs people from Fotune 500 instead of jat people from our own community with a salary of 10-15 K.

rakeshsehrawat said:
Sorry Jatlanders if anyone's sentiments got hurt.
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Nobody gets hurts with these type of thoughts. You are hurting yourself only.
 
In khap walon ne hi to Jaton ki meeti kharab kar rakhi hai, 10-10 Rs maangte haande hai besharam, nahi ko kahin na TV walon ke paas kuch tha kehan ke liye. Inhe koi nahi jaanta tha eb sab ne pata chal gaya ak khap naam ki bhi koi cheez hai. Famous na sahi infamous to ho hi gaye.

rakeshsehrawat said:
I am sorry to quote a senior member but i don't think you know anything about jat community. You can be a khap leader if you have ability to speak truth infront of thousands of people. People here are doubting Khaps until now have anyone heard about them or any khap leader came to them asking for any leader?
If they are not recognised why these leader support them Jindal is a baniya and cancelled his flight on their one call? Reason is simple this is society THE JAT SOCIETY. You are not the society infact you are away from your roots.This is not something about Chautalas or Hoodas this is something big this is about survival of jats. Muslims have their own rules South Indians given exception in constitution then why jats were not given any special clause. Constitution have many clauses seprately for many states nad many castes. Reason is that mostly jats were illitrate and don't care about these type of things and they have never thougt that this society would become so much polluted that they have to ask govt. to take care of them.Jats being farmer was not dependent on anyone and other people like Baniya Nai kumhar etc. were dependent on him for their livelyhood. This created a sense of proud in him and can be found in his DNA now.But time has changed shortage of lands lack of education sent jat on backfoot where he is fighting for his own identity. Even the DNA of jat become polluted people don't like to be called jats.
Baaki so bato ki ek baat 50 aadmi saare jato ka bhavisya tay nahi kar sakte Fortune 500 mein register Jindal jab apni flight cancel karke jab jato ke peeche khada ho gaya to 15-15 hazar ki naukri karne wale aur ye kehne wale ki aisa nahi hoga ki baat mein kitna dam ho sakta hai. Itihas gavah hai jat ne jab bhi sir uthaya to uske aage tikne wala koi nahi tha aur na hi hoga. Aur umeed hai ki hamara DNA aur jyada pollute nahi hoga. Agli mahapanchayat ka intezar hai.

Sorry Jatlanders if anyone's sentiments got hurt.
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narendra81 said:
y dnt khap gets all the money from fortune 500 jindle.. ghar ghar 10 -10 rupaye maangne nahi padenge... :)
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जिंदल के जाट से भाई? उसने के लेना देना जाटां की खाप पंचायत त ? उसके लेखे कुवे में पड़ो आर झेरे में लिकड़ो |
 
agreed bhai,
this statement was a sarcastic one (just to add humor) in response to one of the above post.
VPannu said:
जिंदल के जाट से भाई? उसने के लेना देना जाटां की खाप पंचायत त ? उसके लेखे कुवे में पड़ो आर झेरे में लिकड़ो |
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anjoo said:
So, what is this jat/ khap movement regarding amendment in HMA, etc all about? Improvement in our social structure/ customs, economic upliftment or just a fight for an identity, a display of power/ influence?
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does this below post make any sense to you ?

as of me, the underlined nd highlighted red is more than any explanation. can't tolerate this bickering by these पिस्सू's.
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narwaldeepak said:
If people outside community have a problem in us following our customs… and if they criticize any effort of ours to patronize the our Jat traditions… lets get it legalized . Be it Media or anyone who is non-jat (including some so called ultra modern jats who have deteriorated their minds in effect of these refugees) , should know that Jats hold it right at the top and cannot be culturally contaminated .
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if anyone can vow to put me on ndtv, i am ready to take 1st available flight (at my own expense) to set the stage RIGHT.

trust my words... i will tear apart all these पिस्सू's in two pieces... not physically, but on dialogue.
 
thatz really a cool gesture Brahm.... should be appriciated.....

brahmtewatia said:
if anyone can vow to put me on ndtv, i am ready to take 1st available flight (at my own expense) to set the stage RIGHT.

trust my words... i will tear apart all these पिस्सू's in two pieces... not physically, but on dialogue.
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vijay said:
If people feel so ashamed to be known as Jats they would never regeistered themselves here. It is not necessory that they have to prove themselves to the specific point of views of one person to get authenticated as Jats.



So, Khaps needs people from Fotune 500 instead of jat people from our own community with a salary of 10-15 K.



Nobody gets hurts with these type of thoughts. You are hurting yourself only.
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Ye jato ki hunkar ka asar bataaya hai (exceptions are also there)
Jat is one who have regard for jat Janam se nahi karam se Jat ban jata hai khair tum nahi samjhoge.
 
rakeshsehrawat said:
Ye jato ki hunkar ka asar bataaya hai (exceptions are also there)
Jat is one who have regard for jat Janam se nahi karam se Jat ban jata hai khair tum nahi samjhoge.
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Yeah, DNA of those Jats are polluted who don't agree with you while you can change the DNA of other people into JAT DNA as per their Karam.
 
BTW, please do look into the other thread where members have quoted how jats are buying brides to save/ propagate the jat culture....:D
brahmtewatia said:
does this below post make any sense to you ?

as of me, the underlined nd highlighted red is more than any explanation. can't tolerate this bickering by these पिस्सू's.
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